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BS: Labour wants to confiscate property

punkfolkrocker 20 Jun 17 - 05:15 PM
Steve Shaw 20 Jun 17 - 05:26 PM
Iains 20 Jun 17 - 05:32 PM
Steve Shaw 20 Jun 17 - 05:38 PM
Steve Shaw 20 Jun 17 - 05:42 PM
Iains 20 Jun 17 - 05:49 PM
punkfolkrocker 20 Jun 17 - 05:54 PM
Steve Shaw 20 Jun 17 - 06:07 PM
punkfolkrocker 20 Jun 17 - 06:36 PM
Greg F. 20 Jun 17 - 06:53 PM
McGrath of Harlow 20 Jun 17 - 08:57 PM
Jim Carroll 21 Jun 17 - 02:53 AM
Jim Carroll 21 Jun 17 - 02:59 AM
Dave the Gnome 21 Jun 17 - 03:18 AM
DMcG 21 Jun 17 - 04:35 AM
Iains 21 Jun 17 - 05:00 AM
Teribus 21 Jun 17 - 05:11 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:15 PM

Iains - here's the impasse...

you think you are really clever, incisive, and triumphant...

we think you are struggling to concoct a trumped up anti Corbyn diatribe
out of the fetid imaginings of your subscribed far right blogging propaganda scripts....???

Neutral observers might just think you are simply nasty minded and hostile to human suffering...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:26 PM

"I am still waiting for all you leftards to tell me how comrade corbyn's compulsory purchase, occupy and requisition will work within a meaningful and legal timeframe. Your silence on the subject rather confirms the view he is just a grubby little grandstanding politician with no morals and no scruples."

But, you see, Iains, when you started this thread you didn't mention the "meaningful and legal timeframe" stuff. Not even a whiff of it. You just had a go, in the most immoderate language, at Corbyn's character and integrity. Go on, read it again. You only mentioned the "meaningful/legal" bit once you'd been snowed under, quite justifiably, by criticism for your defence of the rich at all costs and your sheer naked inhumanity towards the poor. Your opening post in this thread stands for all to see. The only person twisting and wriggling here is you, with the help of poodle-Teribus, of course. Live with it. Admit it. Own up. Make an honest man of yourself for once.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:32 PM

Jim Carroll."only problem is that it is owned and the owners of that property are protected by laws"
Ony problem is that there are hundreds of people desperately in need of accommodation following this fire and if our leaders are incapable of passing emergency measures they are not fir for purpose.

Property owners are protected by laws. Well Jimmy what else do you suggest should protect property owners? Perhaps private armies to keep out the unwashed if the rule of law has broken down or been supplanted.
Do you realise just how asinine your posturing is?
I would expect a more meaningful statement off a five year old. Without the rule of law the result is anarchy. If you are seriously proposing that as a solution to homelessness, words escape me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and just what emergency measures do you propose, bearing in mind Parliament is in recess. This is getting really repetitive, can you try to pay attention!
You are very good at suggesting a course of action that may work in your socialist dreamworld but in the real world your suggested solutions are not worth the paper they are printed on. They will not grow wings, they will not fly, they will crash.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:38 PM

"Why was this "solution" for the homeless not in Labour's Manifesto?"

For the same reason that there was no stated contingency plan in the Tory manifesto for a sudden outbreak of cholera. For the same reason that there was no stated contingency plan in the LibDem manifesto for a sudden outbreak of a drug-resistant, vicious variant of the HIV virus. For the same reason that there wasn't a contingency plan in UKIP's manifesto for a nuclear attack by Russia. For the same reason that there wasn't a contingency plan in Cameron's last manifesto for Brexit. For the same reason that there wasn't a contingency plan in May's manifesto for a sudden run on the pound. Hey, Billyboy, it's a good job no-one hires you to write manifestos, innit. Each one would have to be printed on reams of paper stretching from here to Gibraltar. How else would you cover everything! 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:42 PM

"Perhaps private armies to keep out the unwashed"

And there you have it, folks. The poor, the deprived, the people rendered homeless and/or bereaved are now "the unwashed." Beautiful whiff of fascism...


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:49 PM

Well Shaw I think occupy is illegal, compulsory purchase does not occur overnight, and requisitioning has not occurred in peacetime conditions. Also Parliament is in recess at the moment. Most people are well aware of these facts, as was Corbyn, That is why he is a grubby little politician. It is only your leftard ignorance that requires the above to be pointed out repeatedly and at great length. Some of us catch on a bit quicker.
    Just ask yourself if these facts were not true there would be no case to make against comrade corbyn now would there?

Now go away drink you cocoa and try to construct a real argument instead of your usual blusterings and posturings. Perhaps you should tell us about your weeds or your latest wine bargains or perhaps 5000 ways of peeling spuds,
or better still just shut up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 05:54 PM

Iains - cool down fella... have a lolly...😜


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 06:07 PM

But you started this thread with a vicious attack on Corbyn's character and integrity. The rest came later only when you'd been comprehensively outed as a defender of the very rich and a disser of the poor, the deprived, the homeless and the bereaved and when you were trying to save face. I don't give a monkey's mickey what you call me. Be my guest. What I know is that you twisted away from your original point once we'd all attacked you for your sheer inhumanity. Address that or be ridiculed. Down to you. No-one else around here is wriggling, believe me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 06:36 PM

I really can't even begin to understand how it can be possible...

..but Iains really is so uncannily close in character & stylistic traits to being the love child of Keith and Terry...

Could German Scientists have been co-opted by the Allies into establishing a top secret post war cloning program....
presumed closed down after the cold war, long forgotten, but discovered and reactivated by UKIP and Daily Mail financial backers..
.. to produce the perfect fanatical right wing propaganda soldier....????? 🤔


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 06:53 PM

Iains' uncle was Martin Gibson, and his half brother is Bearded Bruce.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 08:57 PM

Requisitioning is not confiscation. It would be perfectly possible to pass a short bill that would authorise the government to carry out the requisition of empty property that was deemed suitable for these people.

The owners could seek to challenge the legality of this. I very much doubt if they would be successful. In the meantime the displaced survivors of this criminal fire would have a decent place to live, close to their network of support.

If Theresa May had a shred of political intelligence she would recognise picking up this proposal as an opportunity to salvage some of the credibility she has lost by her inadequate response to this tragedy.   In fact, even that, all it takes would be a handful of Tory MPs backing this, either because they are honourable in their way, or because they are on razor thin majorities, and such legislation could be passed.

There are some occasions when cutting through red tape is actually needed, and this is such an occasion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 02:53 AM

"Bearded Bruce."
Explains a lot
"Martin Gibson, "
Must be tough to be related to two guitars (even if one does have a very good reputation).
"Property owners are protected by laws."
It appears that you are happy that ordinary people should not be
What kind of society leaves victims of a fire which was probably caused by neglect and profiteering, homeless and reduced to temporary accommodation while there are the facilities to at least give them somewhere comfortable to stop?
What kind of people take the side of wealthy profiteers rather than that of masses of people in need?
What type of heartless moron suggests treating survivors of a fire as refugees and shipping them abroad rather than allowing them to stop in readily available shelter?
"County Clare is nice this time of year, as is Bude - Offered any holiday accommodation Carroll, Shaw?"
What kind of agenda-driven prick uses a horrific fire as a soapbox to attack a political party he doesn't agree with?
The world is full of unanswered mysteries!!
It remains to be seen what was responsible for this fire but the indications are that indifference to human safety played a part in it
No prizes whose side this trio of humanitarians will take what that argument begins!
"Well Jimmy "
Always a sign that the water is running out of the bath when you people dop the veneer and revert to schoolyard name-calling to try to talk down to people fromyour holes in the ground (Teribus seems permanently wedgd in that particular hole)
In your case, you totally lack the imagination to come up with something new and resort to something tried and discarded by others - the long-departed Bearded Bruce tried and failed to over-awe me with that one
Grow up for crying out loud - adulthood may make demands on you, but at least it helps you keep up with your hormones
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 02:59 AM

ANY GOOD AT CROSSWORDS IAINS?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 03:18 AM

I am still waiting for all you leftards to tell me how comrade corbyn's compulsory purchase, occupy and requisition will work within a meaningful and legal timeframe.

Tell you what, Iains, you give us details of what was was actually said and I will try to explain it to you in words that you may understand. Until such a point as you give us chapter and verse on what was really said rather than what the Daily Heil headlines said there is little point in even trying to tell you.

BTW - I presume you are using the phrase 'leftard' as a derogatory term by combining left and retard. Were you aware that is not really insulting to anyone with any sense and shows that you have neither imagination nor the sensitivity to not refer to anyone with mental health issues as a retard. I could of course just combine a couple of words myself, such as right cunt, but I will not :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 04:35 AM

Tell you what, Iains, you give us details of what was was actually said and I will try to explain it to you in words that you may understand.
If that happens, you need the context. So don't pick out 4 or 5 words. We need the two or three sentences on either side as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:00 AM

Timeline:
1)At the emergency meeting in westminster hall corbyn called for requisitioning of property.Date thursday 15th June

"During the election and before Jeremy Corbyn campaigned against the government's intention to seek a derogation or exit from the provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights. He claimed: "The Tories want to repeal the Human Rights Act and some want to leave the European Convention on Human Rights."

Article 1 of the First Protocol of the Human Rights Act enshrines the protection of property, a right that would be breached by the requisitioning of other people's properties. The victims of the Grenfell disaster can be accommodated without communist-style expropriations, tearing up the rule of law and breaching innate human rights. It is a sign of Corbyn's contempt for freedom and property that his knee jerk reaction to the tragedy is to resort class war…

Now no doubt you will concentrate on shooting the messenger because you find the message unpalatable although the veracity is self evident.
Now pay attention again as we move on in time and the quote above on Peston's program is aired: Corbyn: "Occupy, compulsory purchase it, requisition it, there's a lot of things you can do.Date Sunday 18th June
As you can see as the timeline expands the man likewise expands his idiocy. Now I think the impracticality of what the halfwit suggested have been done to death here. But note the deathly silence on the last part of his statement " a lot of things you can do."
There probably are many things he could do,starting with putting his ideas into action while in Westminster Hall, but he had not the wit to do it.
Now you can carry on spinning what he said until you give a gyroscope vertigo, but you cannot escape from the fact that his suggestions cannot be acted on within any meaningful timeframe.

Now we come to Shaws rantings:"But you started this thread with a vicious attack on Corbyn's character and integrity. The rest came later only when you'd been comprehensively outed as a defender of the very rich and a disser of the poor, the deprived, the homeless and the bereaved and when you were trying to save face. I don't give a monkey's mickey what you call me. Be my guest. What I know is that you twisted away from your original point once we'd all attacked you for your sheer inhumanity"
My theme developed as Corby's stupidity evolved over several days.
1)He wants to overturn human rights legislation.
2)He wants to occupy property (lucky the old offence of incitement is no longer around)
3)He wants to compulsory purchase property.
When are you socialist lackwits finally going to appreciate none of his suggestions can occur overnight. As I have said repeatedly, the man is a rabble rousing fool.
Now in case the argument is a little too complex for you to follow
I will summarise it.
1)Thursday. Comrade corbyn wants to overturn human right legislation, to requisition housing despite campaigning for it's retention as part of his election platform
2)Sunday Comrade corbyn adds squatting and compulsory purchase to his supposed quick fixes.
3)comrade corbyn by encouraging crimminal action clearly shows he is unfit to hold office.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Teribus
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:11 AM

"What kind of agenda-driven prick uses a horrific fire as a soapbox to attack a political party he doesn't agree with?"

That is exactly what Corbyn and his supporters did


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:12 AM

So, what did Corbyn actually say then, Iains? As DMcG suggests, context would be crucial too. Where does he say that he or any government he would be head of

wants to overturn human rights legislation.
2)wants to occupy property (lucky the old offence of incitement is no longer around)
3)wants to compulsory purchase property.


Not your interpretation. Not the Daily Heils interpretation. The full text of his speech.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:55 AM

D the G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uum79bCtFI
I minute 23 seconds in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:08 AM

The veracity is not self-evident, Iains. What you call, rather hopefully, the veracity is actually just your lop-sided (aka right-wing) interpretation of Jezza's motives. And your theme did not develop. It took a sudden swerve as you tried to save face under a deluge of indignation from the people here who possess the humanity that you appear to lack. All here in the thread, I'm afraid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:09 AM

A stunning example of leftard thinking!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI8UPHMzZm8


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:21 AM

The link, for anyone who can't link to it for whatever reason, is to the speech where Corbyn confirms that he would consider all possibilities and all assets need to be put on the table to help in such a crisis. No mention that he would perform any of the actions suggested. Just that all possibilities should be considered. And so they should.

Stupid link posted in reply to Steve and considering the country the caller is far more to be a Trump supported than anything remotely left wing.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:37 AM

"leftard" is just one of the copycat insults that indicate the general sub cultural source of your unoriginal right wing thinking...

It has only very recently been explained why you could fairly be called a 'right cunt' for this...

However, from a point of view of language and better joke writing technique..

a more precise amalgam would be "rightard"...

see... it even looks and sounds more accurately like the crux of the pun 'retard'...

Of course us leftards have better judgement, higher standards and sensitivity to social diversity,
to stoop so low and childish a level....

We prefer manly insults like 'arsehole' and 'wanker'... 😜


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:48 AM

Could we not even say 'He is a right arsehole' or 'a right wanker' PFR? That way the pun is on the word 'right'. No? OK. I suppose they would not really understand it anyway

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:58 AM

righty right oh....


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Teribus
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:13 AM

Ehmmm Gnome you asked Iains what Corbyn actually said.

Iains provided you with a link of Corbyn actually saying what Iains said he said - and it is still wrong????

He was suggesting occupation - that is illegal

Compulsory Purchase - Takes a great deal of time to complete - for very good reasons - so in this case it would be useless as a solution.

Requisition - Requires an Act of Parliament - Takes a great deal of time to complete - for very good reasons - so in this case it would be useless as a solution.

Can't you lot get it into your thick heads Corbyn isn't offering any solutions he is merely rabble rousing.

See in today's Press the Grenfell Tower survivors do not want the mindless Corbyn "Day of Rage" crowd hijacking their misfortune for their own ends - as Jom stated - ""What kind of agenda-driven prick uses a horrific fire as a soapbox to attack a political party he doesn't agree with?" - we shall see my money is on the fact that they will just not be able to resist the temptation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:15 AM

Corbyn: "Occupy, compulsory purchase it, requisition it, there's a lot of things you can do".Date Sunday 18th June

Is it so difficult to understand the implications of such actions as suggested above? Obviously for some of you it is. I suggest you get a nice cup of tea and start at the top of the thread and slowly work your way down. Have a dictionary beside you, because some of the words used are long ones.
I am sure that whoever was responsible for teaching the usual crowd above would have had an easier time teaching the finer nuances of astrophysics to a cockroach rather than successfully teaching them their ABC's. The argument has been clearly presented several times. Are you deliberately obtuse, or do you have some other problem?
You are still spinning everything I see, with no real success. You obviously paid no attention to Alistair Campbell while he was teaching the art of the darkside to your hero Bliar blair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:22 AM

Terry - even if you and Inanes had any points worthy of consideration.. you render them unlistenable by your persistent bitter tone of out and out belligerence & hostility...

Chill out... look to the positives in life, and getting on with folks....

btw.. that Student accomodation is at least a start in a positive direction..
If we take it at face value, then well done to that person who made that decision..

mind you though, how much a week for student digs...!!!???!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:34 AM

D the G
"No mention that he would perform any of the actions suggested."

Tell me if he was not about to carry out the suggested actions why did he mention them. Is this the hallmark of a rabble rouser or a fool?

I should get back to the insults. Logic is obviously not part of your repertoire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:42 AM

there's a lot of things you can do

Such as this


Let me bw clear. I do not suggest for a moment this is because of what Corbyn said. But it fits perfectly into his call (in a sentence shortly after then one you are focusing on) for us all to think of ways of helping, rather than focusing on reasons why things can't be done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:53 AM

Tell me if he was not about to carry out the suggested actions why did he mention them.

Because he said all things should be considered and that is true. Giving something consideration is not the same as doing it. Or did you not get up to 'C' in your dictionary?

As to insults - glad you appreciate mine. Yours really are crap :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:10 AM

Oh, and good on them DMcG - thanks for pointing out that some, who actually can do something, are getting the message. Maybe those who are not directly involved should just STFU. What do you think Teribus?

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:14 AM

The only person spinning is you. Inviting people to follow the thread from the top is unwise of you. It would clearly reveal your sharp change of tack once you realised that you were displaying your inhumanity and that we were on to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:15 AM

d theg There are many things that could be done, that is very true. However the ones he articulated were poorly thought out soundbites that would take time and new legislation to come to fruition as has been pointed out many times. His third option was to encourage people to break the law. You obviously condone this suggestion. The logical extension of this encouragement is that no doubt legislation will insist that you leave a bag labelled swag at your front door for any passing lowlife to fill with your property. Failure to comply would no doubt breach their human rights.
Resorting to insults just demonstrates the paucity of your counter arguments.

Now about those deer signs!.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:21 AM

people make laws.. people can change them...


.and blathering on about the law requires no real skill or intelligence..
it is certainly no signifier of a superior intellect.
It doesn't impress anyone here...

..and I should know.. I studied law and could have become a solicitor
if it hadn't been for the higher calling of girls, guitars, and music...





..ah memories of those interviews.. those local solicitors and their bloated egos and sense of self importance..
.. what a bunch of dicktards... 🙄


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:25 AM

His third option was to encourage people to break the law. You obviously condone this suggestion.

And you complain of the lack of logic in my arguments. If you can come up with a link where I said I condone any criminal activity I will join Teribus in showing my arse off Blackpool tower.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 07:15 AM

Corbyn: "Occupy, compulsory purchase it, requisition it, there's a lot of things you can do".Date Sunday 18th June

Is it so difficult to understand the implications of such actions as suggested above? Obviously for some of you it is. I suggest you get a nice cup of tea and start at the top of the thread and slowly work your way down. Have a dictionary beside you, because some of the words used are long ones.
I am sure that whoever was responsible for teaching the usual crowd above would have had an easier time teaching the finer nuances of astrophysics to a cockroach rather than successfully teaching them their ABC's. The argument has been clearly presented several times. Are you deliberately obtuse, or do you have some other problem?


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From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:15 AM

...
Resorting to insults just demonstrates the paucity of your counter arguments.


So, by your own logic you have just demonstrated the lack of substance in your own posts. Well done!

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:37 AM

This has become a wonderful guide to left and right humainism
When's the next election, I hear that Blunderwoman is considering another one as soon as she can find another terrorist-linked Party to offer support - she seems to be having a little difficulty with the present one
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 08:37 AM

..and as for Inanes hilarious default fall back position " if you dont respond, or insult me.. that must prove I am right"..

... classic...!!! 😜


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 09:12 AM

a more precise amalgam would be "rightard"..

May I suggest righturd?


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 09:44 AM

.. and 'comrade'...?? Comrade Corbyn...?????

i swear the only folks who still need to use the word 'comrade' are hoplessly past entrenched gormless right wingers....


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Teribus
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:15 AM

So pfr and Co. Were these luxury flats requisitioned? - No they were not.

Were they simply "occupied" - No they were not.

Were they subject to compulsory purchase by the Council - No they were not.

These former HMRC Offices that had been converted were simply sold to Kensington Borough Council at cost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:19 AM

".and as for Inanes hilarious default fall back position "
Not really PFK - they don't come any "righter" than this pair of clowns
Fine examples of the species
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:25 AM

Tezz - have I at any time advocated requisitioning or occupying...???? [remember that 2 letter word...???]

I'm a pragmatist who tries to retain some optimism in human nature,
and hoped the positive will exists to motivate relevant authorities in acting swiftly to provide suitable homes.....

Requisitioning could only ever have been a theoretical last resort
if all else failed to get their thumbs out of their rear offifices...

I'm no mind reader, but if Mr Corbyn mentioned requisitioning merely as a tactic wake up and to spur on lackadaisical officiladom....???


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:32 AM

btw.. it's interesting that the mudcat ID Inanes was only recently reactivated after an absence of nearly 16 years....??????

oooohhh... let's guess....


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:48 AM

And now I see that the government has done what Corbyn has been asking them to do.
London fire - luxury flats acquired for survivors


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 10:57 AM

No, that is completely different, Kevin. Corbyn has insisted that, as property is theft, all private accommodation is given to the poor and needy while this is an act of kindness and generosity from philanthropic capitalists.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: Iains
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 11:03 AM

well punky rocker.
btw.. it's interesting that the mudcat ID Inanes was only recently reactivated after an absence of nearly 16 years....??????

oooohhh... let's guess....

and your point is??????????????????????????????????????


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 11:04 AM



Corbyn: "Occupy, compulsory purchase it, requisition it, there's a lot of things you can do".Date Sunday 18th June


Terebus rhetorically asks:

So pfr and Co. Were these luxury flats requisitioned? - No they were not.

Were they simply "occupied" - No they were not.

Were they subject to compulsory purchase by the Council - No they were not.


But were they purchased as one of the "lots of other things you can do"?
Yes.



But if you want to see human nature at its worst, I suggest keeping your eyes open for complaints that some of the people who get these flats are immigrants. As far as i know it hasn't happened yet, but I fear it will. It is one of those things I hope to be wrong about. Also appalling, but not quite as bad, would be anyone complaining they paid millions for their flat and then these "unwashed" turn up and reduce their flat's value.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 11:12 AM

Acquiring them in this way was one of the ways Corbyn suggested in order to obtain them for survivors. If the owners refused to cooperate, or made unreasonable demands, other ways could be brought into play.


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Subject: RE: BS: Labour wants to confiscate property
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 11:18 AM

Reading down the story I see that the flats will not actually be available until the end of July, since they are still being completed.

That is not good enough. There are propeties standing empty which could be used immediately.


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