BS: Boarding University!

Subject: BS: Boarding University!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 03:37 AM

Many 1000s of youngsters are leaving home today for "boarding university"! Funny innit that the lefties among them probably scorn "boarding school!!

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 04:02 AM

I am not sure what your experience is, Bonzo, but my wife and her brother went to boarding school and "boarding" University. There is almost no similarity according to them.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 04:11 AM

For amusement only, I have found listing for my wife's old school in an asset register.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 04:52 AM

Fees are paid for an education away from home. The typical age range is the sole difference between school and university.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:00 AM

Only if your thoughts begin and end with finance, Iains.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:27 AM

"Only if your thoughts begin and end with finance, Iains."
That's the way things are in the UK at present - you haven't any money, your child doesn't get highter education simples
HORSE'S MOUTH CONFESSION
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:58 AM

The rich man in his castle,
The poor man at his gate,
God made them high and lowly,
And ordered their estate.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:05 AM

First published in "Hymns for little Children" I see. I raise you St Paul: "When I was a child I thought like a child."

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:07 AM

Breaching my own rules here not to gwt into arguments online. I withdraw.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:13 AM

I scribbled a little note for myself as to what your response would be - you people are nothing if not predictable
PG Wodehouse had it just about right, I think
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:29 AM

D mcG
If your education has brought you up to think that concern for the educaytion of children in lower income families s "childish", maybe it's not all its cracked up to be.
I meant no aggression in my posting - I was pointing out the reality for the vast percentage of British families regarding educationg their children
Sorry if that upsets you
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:31 AM

'All men are created equal' says the American Declaration of Independence.
'All men shall be kept equal' say the Socialists.

       - Winston Churchill

Let our children grow tall, and some taller than others if they have it in them to do so.

    - Margaret Thatcher

Let a thousand flowers bloom, and if some are prettier than others, so be it.

       - Robert Locke

We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!

       - Ronald Reagan

You do not make the weak strong by making the strong weak.

    - Abraham Lincoln

It is the character of egalitarian measures that they pull down what is above. They never raise what is below. Beware dependency on the state.
       - Edmund Burke, 1770.

Those who attempt to level, never equalize... Very plausible schemes, with very pleasing commencements, have often shameful and lamentable conclusions.
       - Edmund Burke

Socialists make the mistake of confusing individual worth with success. They believe you cannot allow people to succeed in case those who fail feel worthless.

       - Kenneth Baker

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:33 AM

Sending children to a boarding school is a dereliction of your parental duties. Sending children going off to university is parents giving them wings to fly.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:38 AM

Not getting back into the argument, Jim, but my remark about st paul was only intended to refer to using a verse of a hymn written for children as an argument. Iains may or may not be able to convince us by a proper argument but simply posting a hymn verse won't do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Stu
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:56 AM

Whilst Iains was Googling like a mad fella, he must be wondering what the sound of whooshing over his head was.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 07:12 AM

"Socialists make the mistake of confusing individual worth with success. "
And conservatives make the mistake of confusing individual worth with the privilege wealth and security brings
Equally, they consistently confuse (or hide behind) "jealousy" with desire wor equality of opportunity and natural justice.
If your system gave us the best leaders it wouldn't be dominated by the Boris Johnsons, Enoch Powells and Margaret Thatchers of this world.
A hastily gathered assemblage of quotes by the privileged proves nothing much
For around ten years I worked for some of Britain's richest people (a lucky accident of employment brought about by living in the rich underbelly of Britain - the South East) - the owner of McAlpines, Peers of the realm, high court judges, film producers, media stars, playwrights and actors - I once saw Princess Di under a hair drier in a posh hairdressers in the West End
Some of them were pleasant people, some were up their own arses, but a consistent thread running through a large number of them was their lack appreciation of what they had.
If you commented on an original painting on their wall they would tell you how much it cost, seldom how beautiful it was
You could go into a room lined with books that made a collector like myself's mouth water, then go upstairs to the bedroom to find Jeffrey Archer on one side of the bed and Barbara Cartland on the other
There were exceptions of course - I worked for a now prominent high court judge - he played Bruce Springsteen guitar for relaxation, his wife and I spent hours discussing classic films
My apologies if I got you wrong DMcG
No offence meant
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 07:40 AM

"Sending children to a boarding school is a dereliction of your parental duties. Sending children going off to university is parents giving them wings to fly."

I have a completely open mind on this - but why is sending children to a boarding school a dereliction of your parental duties? I should think that in some homes it does the children a favour!

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 07:46 AM

" I should think that in some homes it does the children a favour!"
The need to send a child to boarding school as a favour is an indication that the child is already suffering "dereliction of duty" at home
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 08:34 AM

"Sending children to a boarding school is a dereliction of your parental duties"
Another sweeping statement off a rabid socialist. No proof to back it up of course.
and you will be ecstatic to learn that UK taxpayers spent £14.9m on school fees for diplomats' children.

You guys are hilarious!ou provide endless entertainment.
I had a cousin went to boarding school in England while his parents were helping run the colonies in East Africa.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 08:39 AM

Here you are boys. Chew on this:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234994/Sending-children-offices-boarding-schools-costs-taxpayers-84m-year.html

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 10:24 AM

"No proof to back it up of course."
Only limited observation
The wealthy families I worked for invariably employed nannies to look after their children - if the kids where lucky they saw their parents at mealtimes
On one long-term job I worked on I used to come home deeply upset after witnessing a child left to her own devices in a basement playroom - the nanny watched television and did her nails while the mother sat at the top of the house drinking wine and watching films on video
That was one of the wealthiest families in Britain.
I was so distressed for the child I used st stop and talk to her when I could manage it
You people are constantly banging on about family life
I have no idea what the restt of your posting means other than to prove how the least needy are the most pampered using £84m of taxpayers money
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 10:48 AM

Of course I have no "proof." It's my opinion. Tsk.

Why would anyone have children, only to send them off to a boarding school at the earliest opportunity? Is that what being a parent is supposed to be about? And what has being a socialist got to do with it? However, launching your child into the world at eighteen seems about right to me. Timely. Incidentally, most of those won't be staying at "boarding universities." They'll be having to find their own independent accommodation and learning to live with others, running their own budgets. A good bit of learning for life.   

I know nor care nothing about diplomats and what they do to their children. I do care about the obscenity of private schools being treated as charities. Disgraceful.

I left a redundant word in my first post to this thread. I was rushing out to see a fantastic commemoration called "Bude at War - The day the Americans came." We saw a spectacular and noisy reenactment on Crooklets beach of the D-Day landings and got to see a WWII army camp, complete with a lovely young singer called Samantha with her ENSA badge on her uniform who sang all the old WWII songs, Vera Lynn-style. Mrs Steve got to join in with the lindy-hop dancers and she did a slow Charleston with them. We bought a bread pudding from the WI which we've already half-demolished with a cup of tea. Delicious! Great afternoon out and the sun beamed down.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 11:00 AM

"Bude "
Did you see the Young Lady of "there once was a..." fame?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 11:12 AM

Demand for public school places at an all time high, and Shaw has started to babble about food. Says it all really.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10434351/Demand-for-places-at-Eton-College-rises-to-record-high.html
and another 84 million of taxpayers money.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234994/Sending-children-offices-boarding-schools-costs-taxpayers-84m-year.html

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 11:24 AM

Boy by Roald Dahl is what much of the rest of the world knows about children shipped off to boarding school. The stuff of books.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 11:43 AM

Well when the Tories have had seven years to see state-sector teachers leaving in droves, shat on by Ofsted, pay capped year after year, to see schools put into the hands of spivs from the business world who know as much about education as I know about Queen Victoria's frock-maker, to make it next to impossible to recruit head teachers in some areas, so unattractive is the job, to see class sizes increase still further and to impose a rigid, content-stuffed curriculum, to see school budgets slashed, none of which is imposed on private schools, of course they're getting more popular. I mean, no shit, Sherlock. Hanging from the neck 'til dead is still popular in this country but it doesn't make it right. Trump is popular in America but that doesn't make it right. Billions of people are religious but that doesn't mean there's a God. You may call me Steve, like a grown-up, so that I may stop calling you, accurately unfortunately, Inane and a Teribus poodle.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 11:54 AM

Seen lots of lovely young ladies of Bude today, Jim. As I said, the sun was beaming down, so clothes were shed more than so far this month. I refer you to the "short shorts for aesthetes" thread (lack of threads?) and encourage you to use your imagination! 😜

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 12:16 PM

"Seen lots of lovely young ladies of Bude today, Jim"
Good for you - you won't have to go to Uppingham or Devizes then!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 12:34 PM

Wonder why our lecherous old sandal and short wearing "Oik" has to mention me in a thread I have not yet contributed to I have no idea. The wonderful State education system that the lecherous Old "Oik" used to proudly be a part of looked as though it was about to completely fail my children my wife and myself took the decision to hook our children out of it and educate them privately. That involved sacrifices but it was all worth it. My children were educated by teachers that had a vested interest in their education than any interest in advancing their own political agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 12:48 PM

"lecherous old sandal and short wearing "Oik"
"lecherous Old "Oik" "
Back to 4educated argument
Amazing thing education!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 12:50 PM

""lecherous Old "Oik"
I seem to remember it was you who talked about my moter giving blow jobs!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 12:51 PM

" Funny innit that the lefties among them probably scorn "boarding school!!"
Not funny. Just very predictable.
Hows about Labour and that sad Crossland chappie: His words: "If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to destroy every fucking grammar school in England. And Wales and Northern Ireland." and today we still suffer from the results.
As that fine fellow Churchill said:
'All men shall be kept equal' say the Socialists.
But despite that the cream still manages to rise to the top!

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 01:27 PM

" Funny innit that the lefties among them probably scorn "boarding school!!"
More PG Wodehouse Woosterisms
Curchill - wasn't he the one who massacred the Tonypandy miners
Pip-pip
"My history of the Labour movement in Wales is rather sketchy, but I had a distinct memory of Churchill directing the rifle fire — 'shoot left', 'shoot right' — and piles of tiny Welsh corpses building up. Perhaps it was all in ichard Attenborough's film about Young Winston. It seemed in the worst of taste for a former Speaker to re- mind us of this unhappy episode, rather as if Pratap Chitnis, on being created a life peer, had taken the title Lord Amritsar, or Wedgies old father had insisted on calling himself Viscount Peterloo."
SPECTATOR
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 01:33 PM

Your " moter" Jim?
Think it was more the fact that your "fater" refused the offer that I referred to - in any event we unfortunately ended up with you, my little whinging scouser

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 01:38 PM

Well Jimmie here's some up to date history of the Labour party. I see they all signed up for the hyppocritic oath.


Hippocrites All

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 01:42 PM

"Your " moter" Jim?"
More typos Treibus - you'v only been here five minutes and you're desperate already
"As that fine fellow Churchill "
And then there's that wonderful Laurel and hardyt double-act he did with Kitchener and brought about the DARDENELLES MASSACRE
Must have ben a great education in Harrow!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 02:08 PM

"Must have ben a great education in Harrow!!"
Educated 7 Prime Ministers.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 02:12 PM

Well, Bill Woodcock, your first post in this thread doesn't half show what a terribly badly educated man you are, so you must be right!

Iains, I'll talk about food and you talk about diplomats. Neither is the topic of the thread, so hey ho.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 02:23 PM

Hey Shaw you should talk to the whinging scouser. He is the one with a fixation on Churchill and dragging in politicians. Same tired old garbage over and over. Just to set the record straight, the death toll at Tonypandy was one, more jimmy exaggeration.He obviously dreamt up piles of bodies.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 02:38 PM

"We bought a bread pudding from the WI which we've already half-demolished with a cup of tea. Delicious! Great afternoon out and the sun beamed down."

Bread pudding - one of the reasons my waist didn't stay at 32", the other being my other's treacle tart and custard!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Stu
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 02:40 PM

If I'd have had kids I would haver sent them to a fee-paying school. My experience of the state system wasn't good (although I enjoyed school). They wanted to stick me and my classmates in a factory in Birmingham, that's all we were good for.

Thant said, my niece and nephew got to a brilliant state school, although it's having it's budgets slashed by the tory tossers in power at the moment.

Nah, fuck it. If you can afford it, go for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 03:01 PM

"Hey Shaw you should talk to the whinging scouser. "
You wer conducting yourself quite reasonable until the cavalry rode in in the form of foul-mouthed Teribus - nw you're back to your old insulting self
Cowardice of this sort is not a great advertisement for the ed=ucation system you are defending
For Chist;s sake grow up - the pair of you
You deliberately got the Rees Mogg thread closed - you are now set fair to0 do the same with this one
"Educated 7 Prime Ministers."
One of whom shot down striking miners and sent many thousands of their deaths needlessly
I seem to remember another was so hated he was assassinated
About as much a recommendation for Harrow as you are for higher education, I'd as
This is not about anybody's education - it's about the many millions who are deprived of a decent education and end up with jobs far below their capabilities - if they manage to get one.
That is not only unjust - it is a total waste of humanity, which is what this society stands for
Now let;s see if you are capable of responding to that like an adult (at least until your belligerent mate comes back and lets you climb back on his knee and do your Peter Brough and Archie Andrews act)
Kids - who'd have 'em!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 03:31 PM

Whaddya mean, "the pair of you," Jim? If ever I saw two cheeks of the same unwashed arse... crude, sweary, vulgar, sneery, uneducated, common as muck... no wonder they're both so bitter and humourless.

I honestly think you don't mean it, Stu...still, if Diane Abbott can do it...

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 03:41 PM

"Educated 7 Prime Ministers."

Always spell out the word when it comes to low numbers, dear boy, so that should be "Educated seven Prime Ministers." Maybe even the capitals are unnecessary, but we can leave that one for now. I'll recall that for you next time you have a go at Jim or anyone else for their alleged mistakes. But were the prime ministers you are thinking of much good in any case? Do apprise us of their glories when set alongside the non-Harrovians. And do convince me that The Old Pals Act didn't have anything to do with their stellar rises.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:12 PM

No!!! You presume too much. You are not in the classroom now.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 05:22 PM

I suspect the people in the Rhondda researched the subject of the Tonypandy riots a little more thoroughly than Jimmie. No surprise their version is far more restrained and less sensational. Amazing how the story changes when the political grandstanding is castrated.

http://www.heritagetrailsrct.co.uk/index.php/blue-plaques/2-blue-plaques/blue-plaques/67-28-tonypandy-riots heritage of Rhondda Cynon Taf.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:20 PM

It's Jim, not "Jimmie." And I presumed nothing, as a reread of my post would reveal to you (I do realise how hard it must be for a poodle of your clearly limited education to do that, as I neglected to confine myself to words of one syllable, so do accept my sympathies). I asked you a question then I asked you for clarification on two matters. Go on, have another look. I'm not allowed to edit in retrospect so I can't cheat you. Perhaps you'd care to look up 'presume" in a dictionary, old chap. A dictionary is a big book with lots of words in it. Hope this helps! 😂

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Iains
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 06:48 PM

You need more practice to become a comic Shaw. You should do it in front of a mirror instead of boring the rest of us.

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 07:02 PM

Your link refers to miners rioting after three months of strike when blacklegs were sent in
Nowhere has it ever been denied that Churchill ordered police to fire indiscriminately into the crowd - that is a massacre - the miners were unarmed - the police were not
""Jimmie."
As you refuse to behave like an adult now you have back-up, yo will be traeted as a child
Grow up or go away
At least there is no doubt of who closes these threads down and why
If you insist on behaving like an ill-brought-up child, there really is no place for you among adults
You are not even ORIGINAL
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Boarding University!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 17 - 07:16 PM

I'm not practising to be a comic, owld lad. I'm dealing with you after all, a known tragedy on legs. I mean, we all know how you follow the lead of the semi-literate Teribus like a sheep, what with your "Jimmie" (your Jom-equivalent) and your "Shaw." Your sentence "You need more practice to become a comic Shaw" is a case in point. Without a comma after "comic," the sentence becomes risibly ambiguous. So you can't argue your way out of a paper bag, you are alt-right, you are terminally offensive and you are semi-literate. Is there anything positive about you that we can latch on to? Perhaps you sent your kids to a state school. That'd be good. Unless you're still about fifteen. Who knows?