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Lady Nairne biography

Jack Campin 05 Feb 20 - 07:27 AM
Tattie Bogle 05 Feb 20 - 06:10 PM
GUEST,Starship 06 Feb 20 - 09:04 PM
Felipa 10 Apr 21 - 05:36 PM
Steve Gardham 11 Apr 21 - 08:33 AM
Jack Campin 11 Apr 21 - 11:15 AM
Steve Gardham 11 Apr 21 - 04:43 PM
Felipa 25 Jan 23 - 03:27 PM
GUEST 26 Jan 23 - 01:45 AM
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Subject: Lady Nairne biography
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 07:27 AM

New (2019) biography by Freeland Barbour.

https://birlinn.co.uk/product/the-white-rose-of-gask/

Launch event in Edinburgh, 6 Feb 2020


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 06:10 PM

Thanks for the info, Jack: afraid I won't make the launch, but being a big fan of Lady Nairne's songs, the book will be on my birthday list (not far off now!) I did once go to a workshop run by Freeland Barbour of Lady Nairne's songs, which was very interesting. I picked up an old book, containing facsimiles of her songs, in the 2nd-hand bookshop in Innerleithen: we also used to sing some of her songs during the Innerleithen Music Festival weekend, which coincided fairly closely most years with her birthday.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 06 Feb 20 - 09:04 PM

Jack Campin: The following link may be of interest to you.

https://content.thespco.org/music/concert-library/live-stream/mozart-symphony-no-29?utm_source=Facebook+SPCO+Main+Page&utm_mediu

I apologize for putting the post on this thread, but it would have required a new thread. Anyway, there it is. I hope you enjoy it all, although I doubt any of it's new to you.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Felipa
Date: 10 Apr 21 - 05:36 PM

Author Freeland Barbour is giving a talk cum performance (along with Gerda Stevenson) on Sat. 2 May 8-9 pm BST as part of the John O'Groats Book Festival.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/john-ogroats-book-festival-the-music-and-the-land-tickets-145868664101 :

The life of a woman who secretly wrote some of Scotland’s most famous traditional songs will be revealed at this year’s book festival.

Most people will never have heard of Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne, but they will likely know her songs, which include ‘Charlie Is My Darling’, ‘A Hundred Pipers’, ‘Will Ye No’ Come Back Again’ and ‘The Laird of Cockpen’.

Alive from 1766 to 1845, she kept her writing a secret, even apparently not letting her husband, William Nairne, know.

Freeland Barbour, a descendant of Lady Nairne [1] and one of Scotland’s leading accordionists, has written a book about her life to bring her name the recognition it deserves.

The Perthshire man, who lives in Edinburgh, will talk about the book – The White Rose of Gask - while Gerda Stevenson, a guest author at the John O’Groats Book Festival in 2019, performs some of the more than 80 songs Lady Nairne wrote.

They will also do a performance together on The Music and the Land - a two-volume collection of Mr Barbour’s compositions featuring poetry and photographs which tell the story of his life in music.

After Lady Nairne’s death, the publication in 1846 of her collected songs and poems, called The Lays of Strathearn, named her and revealed her secret.

Mr Barbour said: “Her songs are so well known. About ten to 12 of her songs were big hits, up with anything Robert Burns ever did.”

Lady Nairne’s family were staunch Jacobites for generations, her grandfather having fought in the 1715 uprising, and her father and grandfather in 1745 at Culloden.

After escaping the battle and living abroad for seven years they returned to the family home at Gask in Perthshire.

Mr Barbour said: “Her father and grandfather were rebels, so they had to lie low. It was possible that they could have been handed in to authorities if they had made any nuisance of themselves.”

Christianity was also a strong influence in Lady Nairne’s life.

Mr Barbour said: “She was clearly writing Jacobite songs while at Gask. There is no record of her father knowing about it, although it was said she was writing them to please him.

“She was very influenced by Burns and the way he took less well-known folk songs and modernised them. She wanted to purify them.

“She didn’t write any music. She was not a composer, neither was Burns. They used what was there.”

Lady Nairne’s songs were included in national collections gathered at the time and became well known.

Mr Barbour said: “A lot of people thought Burns had written them. Carolina never let on. It was the fashion to keep quiet, but she took it to extremes.”

Lady Nairne gave away nearly everything she had to alleviate poverty.

Mr Barbour said: “This woman is an important figure in Scottish song writing. I would like to shine a spotlight on a remarkable lady who has left a legacy of songs.”

In 2019 he published a new edition of The Lays of Strathearn.

Mr Barbour is a former member of folk group Silly Wizard and a founder member of the ceilidh dance bands the Wallochmor Ceilidh Band and the Occasionals.

He has also owned and managed one of the UK’s leading recording studios, Castlesound in East Lothian.
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[1 - a descendant of Lady Nairn's eldest sister, I read elsewhere]


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 08:33 AM

Very interesting.

At one point in the mid-19th century Robert Chambers tried to pin several Child Ballads on Lady Nairne, including Sir Patrick Spens. He was soon discredited, as you would expect, but nobody could disprove what he was claiming of course.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 11:15 AM

She didn't write The Laird of Cockpen, she bowdlerized it. The version Herd published as "When she cam ben she bobbit" is far better, with its unique ending:


- And are you wi bairn, my chicken?
   Are you wi bairn, my chicken?
- Oh if I am not, I hope to be,
   Ere that the green leaves be shaken.


but that wouldn't fly in Nairne's time. The tune is known by Herd's title from the early 18th century.

I live in walking distance from Cockpen and the ruins of his house and family church are still sort of standing. I'd like to record the tune there sometime.

"Caller Herrin" is a masterpiece and her decision to give Nathaniel Gow the royalties from it (when he had become too ill to work) must have made a difference.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 04:43 PM

If I remember rightly 'Caller Herrin' is the only one to go into oral tradition in England.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Felipa
Date: 25 Jan 23 - 03:27 PM

this evening, on the anniversary of Rabbie Burns' birthday (and also Ewan MacColl's), BBC Radio Ulster aired a programme about "fellow" songwriter, Lady Nairne. I recognised that name right away, but didn't recognise the name "Carolina Oliphant". I found the programme, immensely interesting, and commend it to you - even though it is mostly talk and a lot of the singing featured is performed in what I would call a parlour song style. Here is an article about the programme "The Secret Bard"

The programme is available for listening till late Feb (29 days from broadcast) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001hfm1


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 01:45 AM

From: Felipa Date: 10 Apr 21 - 05:36 PM

Most people will never have heard of Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne, but they will likely know her songs, which include ‘Charlie Is My Darling’, ‘A Hundred Pipers’, ‘Will Ye No’ Come Back Again’ and ‘The Laird of Cockpen’.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: Felipa
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 08:22 AM

Guest, you misrepresent me by not making it clear that the line you quote is one that I QUOTED from an eventbrite blurb about a talk by Lady Nairne biographer Freeland Barbour. If I had actually written it myself, perhaps I would have remembered the name "Carolina Oliphant" when I heard it on the radio yesterday (perhaps not). In fact, when first I heard the name mentioned, I thought the speaker said "Carolina Alexander."


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 10:26 AM

The smallest book I own measures 3.5" x 2.5" x1/4", and is titled Songs of Lady Nairne & C
It's leather bound in a dark green, it's part of a series called The Miniature series by Nimmo May & Mitchell of Edinburgh. It came from my late mother, and very glad to have it I am too.


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 23 - 04:07 AM

This book has been remaindered in the UK and is available for £6.99 plus post from Postscript:

The White Rose of Gask: the Life and Songs of Carolina Oliphant Lady Nairne


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Subject: RE: Lady Nairne biography
From: meself
Date: 28 Jan 23 - 02:57 PM

I had never heard of Lady Nairne, let alone Carolina Oliphant - but I certainly am familiar with some of those songs. Noteworthy, to my mind, that at least some of those romantic 'Bonny Charlie' songs were written by someone with at least direct familial connection with the Jacobite cause.


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