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Subject: Origins: stow brow From: GUEST Date: 14 Jul 04 - 12:13 PM Is this a'The drowned sailor'derivative or a different song altogether? |
Subject: RE: Origins: stow brow From: Wolfgang Date: 14 Jul 04 - 03:18 PM Stow Brow (on Reinhard's Watersons site). You'll find on that site also Lloyd's sleeve notes to this song. They are relevant to your question. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Origins: stow brow From: Folkiedave Date: 14 Jul 04 - 04:23 PM Can I just say that to hear Lal Singing this live was just the most superb experience I have ever known in 40+ years of listening to folk music. Bar none. Not even Susanna Seivane. Or Anne Briggs. Dave www.collectorsfolk.co.uk |
Subject: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: Liamtho Date: 27 Apr 20 - 10:24 AM Could anyone help me with the Chords for this song - thanks in advance. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: GUEST,Starship Date: 27 Apr 20 - 02:14 PM I found the following online, but my internet is acting funny so I don't know if this is what you're looking for. "Backing Chords Lyrics Arrangement by Thomascow, Photos by Google Images,Audio enhancements & video Magix pro 13,Traditional English Folk Song, Roud 91, Child 216 , Ballad Index C216 G C Dm As [G] I was a-[Am] walking Down [Dm] in [G/D] Stokes [Dm] Bay, I [Dm] met a drowned [Dm7] sailor On the [G] beach as he [Am] lay: And [Dm] as I drew [Am] nigh him, It [Dm] put me to a [F] stand, When I [C2] knew it [Dm] was my [Am] own true Love, [F] By the [G] mark on [C] his [Dm] hand." |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: Steve Gardham Date: 27 Apr 20 - 02:52 PM Many versions go to the same tune as The Golden Glove which might be easier to find the chords for. Which version of the tune do you require? People who live on Stoup Brow and in Bay still sing the song. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: GUEST,Starship Date: 27 Apr 20 - 03:59 PM Per Steve's suggestion, here are Fairport's chords for The Golden Glove. http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/irish-folk-music/irish%20songs/Golden%20Glove.htm |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: JHW Date: 27 Apr 20 - 04:04 PM I learned it long ago from a Dave Burland LP. Trailer LER 2082. I like that melody but its not the one you'd hear at Bay. John Greaves (lovely to hear him again) sings the Bay melody. (I've heard it from many singers in Bay over decades). Recorded by Steve Gardham above. John Greaves No chords sure but the melody is a start! |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: JHW Date: 27 Apr 20 - 04:20 PM P.S. If you ever have a chance of visiting Fylingdales Old Church, on the road out of Bay to Hawsker and Whitby you won't find the memorial to the Stow Brow lovers but there is a magnificent stone Cross memorial with a chain wrapped around it, all in stone. Wonderful piece of work. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: Steve Gardham Date: 27 Apr 20 - 06:17 PM I've looked at every gravestone in there with no luck. Not a lot of chance anyway as they're nearly all sandstone and on that hillside open to all weathers the engravings don't last long in terms of centuries. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Drowned Sailor (On Stow Brow) From: Steve Gardham Date: 27 Apr 20 - 06:19 PM John farmed on Stow Brow for most of his life and he learnt it off another farmer nearby. |
Subject: ADD: Stow Brow (from the Halliard) From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Nov 21 - 01:22 PM Fara sang her version of this song at the Mudcat Singaround this week. I'd like to know more about it. STOW BROW In Stow Brow in Stow Brow a damsel did dwell And she loved a young sailor he loved her as well He promised for to marry her when back he did return But a mark what hard fortune on them did run As they were a-sailing a storm did arise The moon was overshaded and dismal was the sky The wind it blew a hurricane the billows loud did roar Which tossed these poor sailors all on a lee shore Now some of them was single and some of them had wives And some of these poor sailors was a-swimming for their lives This unfortunate young man he happened to be there And instead of getting married he got a watery grave From the top of Stow Brow she went all on the sand And tearing of her hair and a-wringing of her hands Crying All you cruel billows come toss my love on shore That I may view his features just one time more As she was a-going to Robin Hood's Bay She spied a drowned sailor all on the ground did lay Where she went right up to him and amazed she did stand For she saw it was her own true love by a mark upon his hand She kissed him she blessed him him ten thousand times o'er Saying Oh you cruel billows you tossed my love ashore Now happy and contented lay down by his side In a few moments after this this young maid she died In Stow Brow in Stow Brow a damsel did dwell And she loved a young sailor he loved her as well He promised for to marry her when back he did return But a mark what hard fortune on them did run Recorded by The Halliard on The Last Goodnight! (1968) Source: https://songsear.ch/song/The-Halliard/Stow-Brow/773924 2018 recording by Bellwether: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTNH-akKJM 2013 performance by Liz Davenport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNbcRpEAkM |
Subject: ADD: In Scarborough Town (from Sam Larner) From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Nov 21 - 01:39 PM Sam Larner called it "In Scarboro Town," but it's clearly the same song. IN SCARBOROUGH TOWN
'Twas in Scarborough fair town a young damsel did dwell,
Now as we were got sailing through Robin Hood's Bay,
Now as we were got swimming, yes, swimming for our lives,
Now as soon as this fair maid these tidings did hear
Now as she was got walking down by the sea side
“And now that I have found my true love I do adore,
Now in Scarborough fair town these two couple do lay, Lyrics from https://mainlynorfolk.info/watersons/songs/stowbrow.html from Voice of the People, vol 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWb1kUnukWo from A Garland for Sam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n_w-QToMZM |
Subject: RE: Origins: On Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: Steve Gardham Date: 09 Nov 21 - 01:46 PM Considering how far this local piece has travelled around the world, it doesn't vary that much in oral tradition, suggesting that the broadsides from the early 19th century are the origins. On balance I would say it is probably all fiction, but some of the details give it the ring of truth. Off the top of my head I think one of the earliest broadsides implies that the girl was originally from Portland which would make some sense as coastal communities were always closely linked particularly east and south coast. On the other hand it may just have been a broadside writer's ploy to increase sales on the south coast. I spent many hours in the North Yorkshire Record Office at Northallerton trying to fit the information in the ballad to deaths and burials at Bay in the early 19th century but nothing matched. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: GUEST,JHW had to delete cookie for the ads to let Date: 09 Nov 21 - 03:01 PM Jim Foster of RHB has republished Songs from Robin Hood's Bay (in 2021) from the manuscript collection of Margaret Moorsom 1877. Includes Stow Brow. ISBN 978 0 9530357 2 4 No-one seems to have mentioned that Stow Brow is a corruption of Stoupe Brow. Cliffs local to RHB |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: GeoffLawes Date: 10 Nov 21 - 06:05 PM In Scarborough Fair Town - Harry Cox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06n8Nki3buQ |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: GUEST,Julia L Date: 10 Nov 21 - 10:35 PM here's a version from Maine Robin Hood's Bay Manuscript From the Phillips Barry Collection, Houghton Library, Harvard Univ. Frank Matthus / Matthers 1927 Titled "Sea Song" Crossed out is Sailor's Return Robin Hood's Bay ( underlined ) Spelling errors corrected by JL In Robin Hood's bay a fair damsel did dwell She was courted by a sailor who did love her well He promised he would marry her when he did return Mark his sad fortunes this young man was drowned 2 For then these poor sailors they put out to sea In a terrible gale that chanced for to be Oh the winds they did whistle and the wild waters roar Which drove them Poor sailors far from the sea shore 3 Then these poor sailors they swam for their lives Some they had sweethearts and others had wives But this poor young sailor he chanced to be one Marked his sad fortunes a watery tomb 4 When these sad news this young girl did hear She wrung her white hand and she tore out her hair Crying "All you wild billows bring my love back on shore That I may behold his sweet features once more" 5 As she was strolling in Robin Hood's Bay She espied a dark object come adrifting her way She stopped and she gazed, brought herself to a stand She knew it was her true love by a mark on his hand. 6 She hugged him and kissed him o'er and o'er She cried and she kissed him a dozen times o'er Crying, "I am contented to die by your side!" One more kiss on his cold lips; broken hearted she died. 7 In Robin Hood's churchyard, this young couple does dwell Over their grave is a covering this sorry does tell So come all you young sailors who pass by this way Think of this young sailor of Robin Hoods Bay |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: GUEST,Julia L Date: 10 Nov 21 - 10:44 PM Since nobody has submitted a link to this very interesting article about this song here it is http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/dung03.htm |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: GeoffLawes Date: 12 Nov 21 - 04:27 AM Julia L, I think the article is written by Steve Gardham http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/dung03.htm |
Subject: RE: Origins: Stow Brow (Drowned Sailor?) From: Steve Gardham Date: 12 Nov 21 - 10:36 AM Geoff, very likely;-) |
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