John Marshall - Folk Singer

Subject: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 01:45 AM

Can someone give me any information on singer / guitarist John Marshall who features on the 'Moses go Down' episode of 'All you need is Love' tv series from te 1970s? He sings the following song (probably called "Willie")

Dear Frau Contistadorff
I'm the one you heard tell off
They call me a bastard in the lines.
I'm only first lieutenant but
I'm the one who gives the orders
That sends men home wounded and dying.
And every night I must sit and
write letters such as this
To the wives and the mothers of my men.
And now I must tell you that
you're boy won't be home again.
Willie was a fine man,quiet and dependable,
Wounded always got a smile.
A smile perhaps knowing,
that on their way back home,
they'ed maybe drop in and say 'Hi.'
But as we were advancing one day,
the grenade had to come his way, and
we never saw him again.
I don't know how I go on
breaking hearts with this pen.

I AM UNABLE TO FIND ANY INFO ONLINE RE ALBUMS OR OTHER SONGS OR HIS ORIGIN. ANY HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED.

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Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 04:15 AM

Gee, the only thing I'm finding is your request on other Websites. I hope somebody can tell you something, but I'm drawing a blank.
Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor

Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 05:12 AM

Here's the guy...

John C. Marshall (17 April 1941 – 2 September 2012) was a British guitarist, vocalist and songwriter in the jazz and blues vein. He was born in London, England.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Marshall_(musician)

https://www.discogs.com/artist/5475790-John-C-Marshall-2

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Meanwhile what is the song "Wllie" ... ?

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Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 05:19 AM

hang on, was john marshall also known as john mitchell?
i think there was a john marshall who ran a folk club in the seventies in south london,in the forest hill area? there was another austin john marshall who was married to shirley collins he was a song writer,

Austin John Marshall, who has died aged 76, was one of the most colourful, inventive and versatile figures of the English folk revival of the 60s and 70s. A record producer, graphic artist, painter, lyricist, poet, manager and film-maker, he was best known for his work with his wife Shirley Collins, the finest female folk singer of the era. He masterminded her highly experimental collaboration with the guitarist Davy Graham and produced several of her best albums.

Born in Leicester, Marshall was the son of an RAF pilot who was killed at the end of the second world war – which perhaps explains his lifelong concern with anti-war projects. Educated at Christ's Hospital school, Horsham, West Sussex, he went on to study at the Slade art school and the London College of Printing, and became a graphic designer, working for Vogue and then the Observer.

He met Collins in 1960, when he was asked to design the cover for her album Rocket Along, and they were married the following year. Although Marshall was a jazz fan, he began to take an interest in traditional music, and in 1964 shook up the folk scene by arranging for Collins to work with Graham, who mixed traditional themes with blues, jazz or even Indian themes. Their 1964 album Folk Roots, New Routes is a folk masterpiece.
Austin John Marshall
Austin John Marshall, pictured in 1989, produced several of Shirley Collins' classic albums, including Anthems in Eden

Marshall went on to produce other classic Collins albums, from The Sweet Primeroses (1967) to Anthems in Eden (1969) and Love, Death and the Lady (1970). The last two albums were credited to Shirley and her sister Dolly Collins, who played the medieval pipe-organ, and featured such early instruments as the sackbut, rebec and harpsichord. Anthems in Eden included the song Whitsun Dance, with poignant lyrics by Marshall about the destruction caused by the first world war, set to the folk tune The False Bride. It has been recorded by other artists and is still sung in folk clubs. He also created exquisite concert posters: the lithograph for a 1967 Incredible String Band/Collins show is in the V&A collection.
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Marshall was a designer at the Observer at the time, and I met him when I was a student working at the paper during the summer, occasionally writing about folk. He sought me out, took me to his home in Blackheath, south-east London, to meet Shirley and the family, and I was asked to act as roadie, driving Shirley, Dolly and the pipe-organ to a West Country folk club. He was remarkable for his energy and enthusiasm. On one occasion he rang to tell me excitedly about a then little-known guitarist called Jimi Hendrix.

After his divorce from Collins in 1970, Marshall went on to work with other musicians, from Spirogyra to the singer-songwriter Steve Ashley, another graphic designer whom he had helped to find work on the Observer. He produced Ashley's adventurous album Stroll On, and spent three years trying to find a label that would release it; it eventually appeared in 1974 and was hailed as contemporary folk album of the year by Folk Review magazine.
A poster for the Incredible String Band and Shirley Collins' October Songs concert
A poster designed by Austin John Marshall for the Incredible String Band and Shirley Collins. Photograph: Topic Records

Although he had no previous experience in film-making, he also launched two ambitious film projects. His early footage of Hendrix eventually became part of the film Rainbow Bridge (1972), and he worked with the director Peter Neal on the Incredible String Band film Be Glad for the Song Has No Ending (1970). He also started a record label, Streetsong, that released a single by Bert Jansch, Black Birds of Brittany.

Marshall was a man of many (some would say too many) projects, and his great obsession was a highly experimental anti-war folk musical that he was constantly rewriting, variously titled The Anonymous Smudge or The Great Smudge. He raised money to make demo recordings, with a cast that included Robert Kirby, Ashley and Collins, but folk was fading from fashion in the late 70s, and the project has never been heard in the UK – though a song, Honour Bright, eventually appeared on the Collins compilation Within Sound (2002).

In 1981, Marshall moved to New York, where he settled easily into the bohemian community of the Lower East Side, which he loved. Here, he became a performing poet using the name John the Angel Fish, revived his interest in painting, and became celebrated for his murals. He was "like a beatnik Banksy", according to his daughter, Polly. In New York, he at last managed to get his Smudge project performed. It was broadcast on WBAI radio in 1981, and repeated in 1982 and 1984.

He had hoped to return to the UK, but was unable to travel, as he suffered from emphysema and chronic pulmonary disease. He was married and divorced three times, and is survived by his two children, Bobby and Polly, from his marriage to Collins.

• Austin John Marshall, record producer, painter and lyricist, born 30 March 1937; died 3 November 2013 guardian obituary robin denselow

Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 05:28 AM

This song by John Marshall came from London Weekend Television "All You Need Is Love - The Story of Popular Music" by one Tony Palmer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Love:_The_Story_of_Popular_Music

John was in part 11 (of 17 episodes - fully 15 hours of archive and contemporary footage.)

Episode 15 - "Go Down, Moses!: Songs of War and Protest" narrated by the BBC's Charles Chilton

Clips: "My Country, 'Tis of Thee", "Yankee Doodle", "Dixie", Presidential Campaign of 1840, "Land of Hope and Glory", Songs of Freedom, "The Battle Hymn of Lt. Calley", "The Killers That Run the Other Countries", Hollywood blacklist, People's Songs, Hootenanny (US TV series)

Artists: Leonard Cohen, Pete Seeger, Arlo Guthrie, Vera Brodsky Lawrence, Yip Harburg, Bing Crosby, Glenn Miller, Vera Lynn, The Andrews Sisters, Woody Guthrie, The Weavers, Bob Dylan, The Kingston Trio, Peter, Paul and Mary, Leon Rosselson, Joan Baez, Country Joe McDonald, John Marshall, James Simmons, Ireland's Freemen.

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Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 09 Nov 20 - 05:49 AM

The thing to do is watch the programme and compare images of whomsoever sings this song. The song is not on the web.

"All You Need Is Love" is currently airing on London Live (Freeview Cnannel 8) on Fridays and Saturdays. But these suffer from the obligatory insertion of lengthy adverts - actually cutting into the content.

This weekend (6/7-11-2020) they aired episode 6. "Always Chasing Rainbows: Tin Pan Alley" [BTW did you know that Tin Pan Alley was really Denmark Street, in Soho, London]

There are some episodes on YouTube and Youku (which can be viewed &/or downloaded):

1. God's Children: The Beginnings [YouTube]
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w_ig2dgCEM

2. I Can Hypnotise 'Dis Nation: Ragtime [YouTube]
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r409UZNCdBA


8. Swing That Music - Swing [YouTube]
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-tpN0wk1yc

10. Making Moonshine - Country Music (Youku)
    https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDc2OTgwMTUy.html

12. Hail! Hail! Rock n'Roll [YouTube]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhOB2hMGMOU

13. The Beatles - Mighty Good (Youku)
    http://youku.com/v_show/id_XNDc2OTgwMTUy.html

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Subject: RE: John Marshall - Folk Singer
From: GUEST,CJB666
Date: 12 Nov 20 - 02:05 PM

John Marshall - YouTube link is here:

https://youtu.be/MxZ2ObpWKcQ

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