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Subject: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: tar_heel Date: 03 Mar 00 - 11:09 AM just looking for some input into the writing of this song. my sources says it was written back in 1880 by gussie l.davis,who was the first successful black songwriter on tin pan alley. he worked as a porter on a pullman train,then landed a job sweeping floors at the cinncinnati conservatory of music. there,he learned the rudiments of music and went on to compose over three hundred sentimental songs. among his hits...in the baggage coach ahead,which sold over a million copies. unfortunately,davis sold the copyright outright for a mere pittance. maple on the hill,became popular in country music after it was recorded by wade mainer and zeke morris for victor in 1934. as a kid ,i had always heard that this song was one of the oldest country songs around,or probably the first big noted country song... anything new to this story would be greatly appreciated.... chuck hemrick |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Rick Fielding Date: 03 Mar 00 - 12:03 PM Hi Chuck, I'm not sure if this adds anything to your research (which seems spot on from what I've read about the song) but I found it interesting. The song, as done by Mainers' Mountaineers (with Zeke singing) was still on country juke boxes in the South YEARS after it was recorded, which is a testament to how it "reached" people. The recording was pretty archaic, but competed well with Jim Reeves, Patsy Cline etc. Other perennials were "Down Yonder" by The Skillet Lickers, and "Faded Love" by Bob Wills. Each was still being played on the "boxes" 20 years after being recorded. Rick |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Dale Rose Date: 03 Mar 00 - 05:51 PM I have more to add on the Maple On The Hill, but will get to that later ~~ it'll take a while.
Rick, some of them hung around a whole lot longer than that! I have a prized 45 of Down Yonder (Back Up And Push on reverse) which I purchased new some time in the 70's, I think. It is an RCA Victor red label Gold Standard Series 447-0569. Somehow the little jukebox strip has gotten away from me though. I can no longer quote my source, but I read somewhere along the line that Down Yonder was in continuous print longer than any other recording on any label, from its original release in 1934 to the time of the article I read. I don't know whether it was ever dropped from the catalogue at any time after that, but knowing RCA, it probably was. I still have not forgiven them for reneging on Hank Snow's 50 year contract. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Barbara Shaw Date: 04 Mar 00 - 07:33 AM Here's a link to another mudcat thread about Gussie Davis and Maple on the Hill. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: GUEST,jb sutton Date: 25 Jul 00 - 02:52 PM what other songs are attributed to Wade Mainer? I would like to add some of his songs to my repertoire. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: GUEST,Gene Date: 25 Jul 00 - 04:19 PM Oh How I wish I had bought these by J. E. Mainer several years ago for $3.98!!!
J. E. MAINER - RRJE-185
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Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Stewie Date: 25 Jul 00 - 07:42 PM On the subject of 'Maple', evidently there were many follow-ups to the Mainer recording, including some by J.E. Mainer himself. One that I am aware of is the 2 part answer by the Dixon Brothers: 'Answer to Maple on the Hill Part I' and 'Answer to Maple on the Hill Part II', recorded in Charlotte NC in 1936 with a third voice added to the duo - that of Mutt Evans. Part I had the wife on her deathbed, talking to her sister. The song ends with her filling a second grave under the maple. Part II has a prodigal son lamenting the 2 graves of 'dear dad and mother' under the maple tree. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Tiger Date: 27 Jul 00 - 03:08 PM And the Carter Family, of course. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: harpgirl Date: 18 Mar 03 - 09:01 PM reuse |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:09 PM Although the Carters used Davis' lyrics they changed the tune. My preference is for the original air. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: kendall Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:05 PM I read somewhere that The Prisoners Song was the first million seller. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:01 PM Vernon Dalhart's old 78 had the Prisoners Song on one side and the Wreck Of The Old 97 on the other. I understand it sold over a million. Dalhart also recorded Maple On The Hill. |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: Neighmond Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:34 PM Maple on the Hill was the first true country song I ever heard, and it still runs a shiver in my spine when I hear it at the right time. Chaz |
Subject: RE: Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL From: masato sakurai Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:54 PM From The Record Lady's All-Time Country Favorites: 'Maple On The Hill' - J.E. Mainer's Mountaineers (Real Country Archives Page 7)From Honkingduck: Maple On The Hill Part 3: Dixie Reelers~Masato |
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