Origin: Bright Shining Morning

Subject: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,radriano
Date: 07 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM

Hi, everyone, it's me again!

I've been surfing the internet looking for historical info on the English hunting song, The Bright Shining Morning. The song is in the database but the version given is credited as having been heard from me singing it in the San Francisco Folk Club in 1983. And I don't remember where I got it from!!!

Another senior moment here. Anyone know about the background to this song?

Sheepish regards,
radriano

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Apr 00 - 08:24 PM

It's not Copper Family, Richard?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 07 Apr 00 - 08:37 PM

I learned it from Swan Arcade (Dave Brady, Heather Brady, Jim Boyes) record out 1973. "This song is from Popular Songs of Sussex, collected by Revd. J. Broadwood and Lucy Broadwood" Just to make sure we are talking about the same song, the chorus ends "awake from your slumbers and hail the new day" Yes?

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Apr 00 - 11:28 PM

Yes! Yes! (that is to say, and the last line repeats).
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Apr 00 - 11:31 PM

Lou Killen has an album of that name...it's the title song..perhaps there?

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: kendall
Date: 08 Apr 00 - 12:50 PM

Lou AND Sally did it!!

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 08 Apr 00 - 01:00 PM

That's Lou Killen and his (then) wife Sally - Front Hall Records, FHR-06 - Bright Shining Morning, Side A, Cut 4. They learned it from Swan Arcade, who got it from the Broadwood Sussex collection and added a verse of their own. I don't know which one.

Sandy

Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Artful Codger
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 07:21 PM

In searching for the original "Sweet Rosy (or Rosey) Morning", I've only been able to come up with obsolete links and index entries. These have pointed to a song "Damon and Phoebe". (When searching, note that the o and e may be ligated as the special character œ, and "and" may be replaced by an ampersand.) The first lines run:

When the sweet rosey morning first peep'd from the skies
A loud singing lark bade the villagers rise;

www.colonialdancing.org provides an index entry for this song, though the "incipit" indicates a different tune entirely.

I also found this at the University of Buffalo's British Music Collection index:
721. PRING, Jacob Cubitt, 1771-1799.
Damon and Phoebe, a favorite Song with an Accompanyment for the Forte Piano...
London: J. Bland [1788].
3 pp.
CPM Vol. 46, p. 110. BUCp. 810. RISM P5461 (only one copy recorded).

Can someone provide the Broadwood version of this song, or the full text of "Damon and Phoebe"?

Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 09:56 PM

Here is a link to "Rosy Morn" clearly a variation of the song.

http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getfolk.php?id=953

Phoebus is mentioned in the first line. No music is provided. Anyone know know the tune or where one might find it?

--Bill Brown

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Folk Song Information

Song Title	Rosy morn
Roud No.	58
Collected From	Harvey, Henry 'Wassail'
Location	Cricklade
County	Wiltshire
Collected By	Williams, Alfred
Alternative Title
Tune
Date
Source Primary	WSRO: 2598/36 Packet 4 - Wiltshire: Williams, A: MS collection No Wt 365
Source Secondary	Williams, A: Folk songs of the upper Thames, 1923 p 58
Recording
Song Lyrics
Verse 1 The red, rosy morn peeps over yon hill, Bright Phoebus is dawning through meadow and field, Whilst the merry, merry horn cries – Come, come this way! Awake from your slumbers and behold a new day. Chorus For it’s sleepy weather and drowsy morn, We’ll follow the sound of the merry-tuned horn, We’ll hunt the bottle from sun to sun, And follow the lasses wherever they run; Then tipple away, tipple away, And let us be merry, boys, whilst we stay. Verse 2 Our stag runs before us and away seems to fly, Our horses in full speed, my boys, and our hounds in full cry; Whilst the merry horn cries – Come, come this way! Awake from your slumbers, and behold a new day. Chorus Verse 3 Our day’s sport being over, and our horses at ease, We’ll call for a bowl, my boys, and drink when we please; Then let us, let us be merry whilst we stay! Let love crown this night, my boys, and sport crown the day!
Notes
Alfred Williams – ‘Here again we give several versions of the same song obtained within a radius of about twenty miles. The piece was very popular It is a hunting song and one of the best of its kind: one needs but little judgement to discover its superiority above the more modern song, ‘We’ll all go a-hunting today’. This version was well known at Cricklade where I obtained the words of the late Wassail Harvey and Mr Phoenix Giles.’ Transcribed and edited by Chris Wildridge, 2007.

Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 10:17 PM

Here's the version used by the In Harmony's Way group in the San Francisco area (radriano, et al.)

Bright Shining Morning The bright shining morning smiles over the hills, With blushes adorning the meadows and rills. The bright shining morning smiles over the hills, With blushes adorning the meadows and rills. And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away; And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away; Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day, Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day. The horses all saddled, they dance on the ground, And they lift up their heads at the bay of the hound. And over the hilltops the huntsman's hollo, Comes echoing down to the valley below. The fox runs before us, he seems for to fly, And he pants to the chorus of the hunt in full cry. When our day's work is ended, we home do retire, And we pull off our boots by the light of the fire. Come, fill up your glasses, let the toast go around, And we'll drink to all hunters, where ever they're found. (Verses 2 and 3 by A. Wood and D. Olsen. All others traditional.)

Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 09:26 AM

I've heard the Wilsons do the Swan Arcade version live, years ago, but I don't think they have ever recorded it.

Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: KT
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 09:45 AM

Finest Kind does a wonderful rendition of it on their SILKS & SPICES CD.

Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 10:51 AM

The Holmevalley Tradition, Holmfirth West Yorks, in particular Barry Bridgewater, and Will Noble sing this quite regularly

The song very likely from Arthur Howard

The Holmevalley lot are still hunting with dogs although this has been banned in England, supposedly

SWan Arcade's version is probably most popular in England although Barry in particular sings a different set of words passed down orally

He does sing Bright Rosy Morning ~ he also currently leads the singing at The George, Upper Denby having taken over from Cyril Latimer and formerly at The Fountain, Ingbirchworth at Christmas!!

Ray