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BS: Passion

black walnut 01 May 00 - 11:38 AM
Wesley S 01 May 00 - 11:41 AM
SDShad 01 May 00 - 11:46 AM
GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU 01 May 00 - 11:54 AM
Allan C. 01 May 00 - 11:55 AM
Bert 01 May 00 - 12:10 PM
black walnut 01 May 00 - 12:11 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 01 May 00 - 12:35 PM
Mooh 01 May 00 - 12:41 PM
BlueJay 01 May 00 - 12:42 PM
Tony Burns 01 May 00 - 12:44 PM
Tony Burns 01 May 00 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 01 May 00 - 12:54 PM
black walnut 01 May 00 - 12:57 PM
Mooh 01 May 00 - 01:10 PM
katlaughing 01 May 00 - 01:11 PM
Little Neophyte 01 May 00 - 01:24 PM
black walnut 01 May 00 - 01:28 PM
Marion 01 May 00 - 01:32 PM
black walnut 01 May 00 - 01:43 PM
Mooh 01 May 00 - 03:07 PM
kendall 01 May 00 - 03:52 PM
Amergin 01 May 00 - 04:37 PM
Lady McMoo 01 May 00 - 04:47 PM
Mbo 01 May 00 - 04:56 PM
Rick Fielding 01 May 00 - 05:23 PM
Caitrin 01 May 00 - 07:38 PM
Ely 01 May 00 - 09:09 PM
Kelida 01 May 00 - 09:47 PM
GUEST, Threadie 01 May 00 - 09:50 PM
Lonesome EJ 01 May 00 - 10:27 PM
GUEST,James 02 May 00 - 12:50 PM
TerriM 02 May 00 - 01:54 PM
black walnut 02 May 00 - 02:42 PM
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black walnut 02 May 00 - 06:26 PM
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Mooh 03 May 00 - 11:11 AM
Caitrin 03 May 00 - 04:37 PM
black walnut 04 May 00 - 09:49 AM
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Subject: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:38 AM

We all love to listen to tunes that are played on the instruments we ourselves play, but I have a passion for an instrument I do not play.

When I hear a DOBRO (or reasonable facsimile) it draws me like a magnet. It moves me, it inspires me, it sends tingles everywhere......I melt!

Do any of you share my kind of passion for an instrument you do not play yourself?

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:41 AM

Clarinet and cello


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: SDShad
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:46 AM

Uillean pipes, bombarde, hurdy-gurdy.

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:54 AM

OH the CELLO most definately! I'll greedily listen to ANYTHING that has a cello in it, from Dvorak to ELO to Maddy Prior to Tom Paxton to Andrew Lloyd Webber to John Macklis. And of course the pipes! Whenever I hear 'em I come runnin'! Yeeha!!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Allan C.
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:55 AM

Yes, BW, most of them! My understanding is that you will miss David, Bill and me when we visit in Toronto. It is a shame, because David is an excellent dobro player. It often lends a haunting feel to some of the songs we play.

Nearly any instrument, from a lone bagpipe to a mouth harp, can trip the "tingles" button for me depending largely upon the skill of the artist and the selection played.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Bert
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:10 PM

Fiddle does it for me. That sound goes right through to the bones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:11 PM

allan, you've ripped me into a thousand shreds....i'd passionately love to hear david!

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:35 PM

Allan,

When are you coming to Toronto?

Steve Latimer


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mooh
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:41 PM

Dobro like Jerry Douglas. Piano like Glen Gould. Mandolin like Simon Mayor. Drums like Keith Moon. Especially Simon Mayor.

You know that fab guitar player Don Ross? For a guy that doesn't sing much he sure has an incredible voice. The only time I heard him sing several people exclaimed out loud how good a voice he has and I was dumbfounded.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: BlueJay
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:42 PM

The Dobro is also high on my list of wannaplays. But the number one is, believe it or not, the Pedal Steel Guitar, you know, that thing that looks like an electric cheese slicer. It's funny though, because I'm NOT a fan of Country/ Western music, (at least not in the modern, commercial sense). But some of the stuff Jerry Garcia and Sneaky Pete did on various Byrds, New Riders, Gram Parsons, not to mention Brewer and Shipley's "Oh Mommy" just just send the old shivers down my osteoarthritic spine. A guy showed me a few basics at Guitar City in Denver a long time ago, and I left with two thoughts: The pedal steel is very expensive, and very difficult to learn to play.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Tony Burns
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:44 PM

The gang will be in Toronto on June 18th. I'll start another thread about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Tony Burns
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:54 PM

Here is the Mudders in Toronto thread I promised.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:54 PM

Thanks Tony.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:57 PM

Mooh, i ADORE Don Ross! I have every CD. I've spoken with him. I've hugged him. I've campfired with him. I've played piano with him. (Remind me to tell you about 'the incident' sometime.) I've even (with his permission) rooted through his gig bag. (okay, laugh at me....but just imagine being able to do that with one of YOUR folk heros' gig bags!).

Don does a bit of slide. He's a master fingerpicker. And a wonderful guy to boot.

But, I digress. It's the INSTRUMENT ITSELF. Whether it's played by Jerry Douglas or Don Ross or Bruce Cockburn (i feel faint just thinking about it) or by somebody at our song circle, it's the SOUND of the dobro that grabs me. Just one slide sans fret and I'm climbing comets.

~walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mooh
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:10 PM

black walnut,

Cool eh! Check out Don's baritone guitar. I got one just like it (except it's maple) but I sure do wish I could play it like Don! He played alot of lap style dobro when I saw him just before last Christmas and the tone was stupendous. He has greater control over his live sound than most players. Folk hero, right on.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:11 PM

bagpipes (it's a past-life thing!) and uillean pipes; hurdy-gurdy; then, dobro

can't wait to hear it, Allan!


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:24 PM

Nope, I have a monogamous, passionate, devoted relationship with my banjo.
To have ears for another instrument would feel like infidelity.
I once borrowed a guitar for one week to see if I wanted to learn how to play it. It felt like being on a very long, bad blind date.

Little Neo (who hopes you realize she is kidding around)


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:28 PM

(more i forgot to say about don ross.... yes, mooh, he has a fabulous voice, and he's an asoblutely amazing piano player, and he knows his music theory inside out and backwards better than any theory teacher i ever had, and, i've seen him in a bathing suit.)

~'nut who really is nutty today (blame it on the rain?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Marion
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:32 PM

Black Walnut, and others who have named instruments:

If you love the dobro (insert your instrument here) so much, why don't you play one?

I don't mean this to be a snarky question. I just think that your love for a certain instrument strongly suggests that it's one that your muse wants you to play.

I like bagpipes...other people's bagpipes, that is. But if they spoke to me as deeply as the fiddle or guitar did, I would find a way to learn them.

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:43 PM

sounds logical, marion, but it's not how it works for me. i am very very much attached to harp, piano, dulcimer (i have played slide dulcimer!), whistles.....

i know i will never play dobro. that's perfect with me. i just revel in the listening.

neo, methinks you're still honeymooning!!!

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mooh
Date: 01 May 00 - 03:07 PM

Marion, I don't play dobro because I can't afford one yet. I keep playing and buying non-resonator guitars, but I hope to get a National or the like soon.

So many guitars, so little time.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: kendall
Date: 01 May 00 - 03:52 PM

The Dobro, in the right hands, is my kind of soul music. Remember Cousin Oswald who used to play with Roy Acuff? He never "took over" with a lot of fancy licks that so many Dobro players try to do his playing was always tasteful and done just right. I happen to have a friend who could pass for Cousin Oswald. His name is Jim Warren and he lives in Ludlow Vermont. You wont hear a better Dobro player than Jim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Amergin
Date: 01 May 00 - 04:37 PM

I love the bagpipes and the uillean pipes. They can either make me want to skip down the street or make my heart wring out it's tears.

Amergin


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 01 May 00 - 04:47 PM

Love the oud! Am I odd?

Peace

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mbo
Date: 01 May 00 - 04:56 PM

Did I forget the diatonic accordion?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 May 00 - 05:23 PM

Yup. Dulceola. The instrument that the amazing Washington Phillips played. Other than my friend Andy Cohen (who is very much alive) the only other recordings of it that I know of are the sessions Paul Mason Howard did in Los Angeles with Leadbelly. Love the sound of that instrument!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Caitrin
Date: 01 May 00 - 07:38 PM

A nicely played fiddle just reaches straight to the bottom of my heart. I wish I could play it, but it's just a bit beyond my reach.
And (ducking to avoid flying objects) a truly well played synthesizer. When Keith Emerson fires up that Moog on Karn Evil 9, I just love it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Ely
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:09 PM

I'm still kicking myself that I never followed up on the violin lessons I took for a year when I was 4. I'm dying to learn a better melody instrument (Heaven help me, I love the lap dulcimer but it's a pain in the neck to play in a group, outdoors, in a noisy room, when amplified, etc. etc.). And hammered dulcimers aren't portable enough--I hate tuning all the time and they have SO many strings.

I'd love to be able to play the guitar well, too. And, yeah, the dobro. And banjo.

But mostly, I dream of fiddles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Kelida
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:47 PM

I love bagpipes, but I manage to live vicariously through my friend Seth who plays them. However, there are dozens of instruments that I love that I intend to someday learn to play. . .

Multiple Pipes/Pan Pipes
Flute
Fiddle
Cittern (due in part because of the wonderful music of Vince Conaway)
Bodhran

And anything else I can get my hands on. . .

Peace--Keli


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST, Threadie
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:50 PM

Passion:

A rainy day in Ballymena.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 01 May 00 - 10:27 PM

When Coltrane plays the saxophone, he translates his soul into sound. Yeah, the sax.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST,James
Date: 02 May 00 - 12:50 PM

The Northumbrian small pipes. the flute and the cello....I play the cello and am envious of those who have a gift for it...These are all instruments that are often played badly....so they often get a bad rap...but when played well....heaven.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: TerriM
Date: 02 May 00 - 01:54 PM

I know this may attract flak but for me there are few things more exciting than a well played bodrhan and I love hammer dulcimer ( am struggling to learn to play one and can't afford the other). But I think some of the enjoyment comes from the fact that I can't reproduce those sounds myself... it's a bit like learning a new song which obsesses you until learned.Once you have it down pat it loses some of it's magic....or is that just me?


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 02 May 00 - 02:42 PM

No, Terri, it's not just you. Sometimes I love the mystery of things I don't understand or don't know well. I don't see why you'd attract flak for your choices. Passion is a very personal thing. Caitrin, that goes for you too!

mcmoo, could you describe an oud for me? Does it rhyme with loud? And Rick, what is a dulceola? Is it related to a dulcimore? I suppose I should know these things, but I was raised with flutes, clarinets and tubas.....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 02 May 00 - 03:09 PM

As a non-musician, most instruments well played, even banjos and bodrhans, have this effect on me: guitars including dobros, yes, also trumpets, baritone and soprano sax, clarinet, piano, hammond organ,in the right hands (Jimmy Smith,Alan Price)etc.
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Caitrin
Date: 02 May 00 - 05:11 PM

That's true, Roger. Most anything played really well and with true passion will strike a chord in me.
Black walnut...:) I always say I'm going to duck to avoid flying objects when I reveal myself as a rock fan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 02 May 00 - 06:26 PM

Caitrin: (Then I'd better duck if I tell anyone here I like Meatloaf!)

Other instruments I really love, but do not play, are the hurdy-gurdy (drones stretch the heartstrings), the bodrhan (how can such a simple looking instrument have so many voices?), and the cello. A long time ago, I had the chance to take cello lessons for several months, but found that I couldn't for the life of me make a tune on it. It was wonderful, nonetheless, to draw the bow and feel the hugged instrument vibrate in my arms. I am content to love them all from afar for now...it is difficult enough to find time for the many instruments I already own or borrow.

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 02 May 00 - 07:04 PM

I love every musical instrument so that must leave a lot of room for that passion! My biggest musical regret is that I don't play the fiddle and trying to play one causes me a lot of pain - shame because my left hand already knows where the notes are and it really is one of my favourite instruments.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: NancyZ
Date: 02 May 00 - 07:16 PM

I'm a fiddle player who lusts after banjos in a big way:) It's such a great instrument, I'd love to learn to play and have even begun a tenative search for a tenor banjo. However, I have lightyears to go on the fiddle so I wonder if I'm just kidding myself.....still the thought of plinking and plonking with a banjo on my knee does make my heart go pitter patter:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 02 May 00 - 07:21 PM

Nancy, do yourself a favour and get that tenor. You will enjoy it!!!

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Magpie
Date: 03 May 00 - 05:02 AM

Bagpipes and uilleann pipes. My ex was a great piper, and that's what I miss about him. The music. He tried to teach me, though, but I lost patience. Damn it!

Magpie


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: alison
Date: 03 May 00 - 05:43 AM

Hahaha threadie.. even when its not raining there's nothing much to do in Ballymena but get passionate.....

bagpipes!! does it every time.... goosebumps and tears...

uilleanns too.... bodhrans, lambeg drums, or any sort of drums.. there's something about someone beating the crap out of a drum that is very stirring, and nice saxophone (like Grover Washington Jnr........)

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: dwditty
Date: 03 May 00 - 05:47 AM

My friend Ken is a second generation saw player. If you've never heard a saw played well, you are missing a treat. Sometimes we play together - mostly what we call Churchgrass. One Christams eve he played part of the Messiah accompanied by organ, cello, and two violins. It was awesome.
DW


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mooh
Date: 03 May 00 - 11:11 AM

Pipe organ, played well. I've had the privilege of being exposed to a Casavant (sp?) two pipe chamber organ for many years and in the right hands it can sound unbelievable. There was a fellow, Joe Herdman (now sadly passed away) who used to play it very late at night and much of the neighbourhood could hear it. Incredible purity of tone! A very emotional instrument in the right hands.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Caitrin
Date: 03 May 00 - 04:37 PM

Very true, DW! Rick Ramseur plays the saw beautifully with the Bluefields. It's absolutely haunting!


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: black walnut
Date: 04 May 00 - 09:49 AM

Mooh, I actually spent a little bit of time studying pipe organ! Once you can get those luscious foot pedals working, it's a real treat. I especially enjoyed just playing in a big empty church all alone, with no one else listening, and enjoyed listening to the music, which seemed to be coming from somewhere quite other than my fingers and feet. It's got to be the instrument that puts the player the farthest from its sound source!

I stopped playing pipe organ when I realized that I couldn't keep up the lessons with a new baby (who is now 15). (I couldn't fit a pipe organ into my house, not to mention my schedule).

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mooh
Date: 04 May 00 - 10:17 AM

black walnut,

Right on! Once in a while I could play said organ myself, though poorly, but what thunder! I once had the opportunity to jam with an electric guitarist, and he required 200 watts to compete with the organ. I wish there'd been tape running at the time. If I ever win the big lottery, maybe I'll buy a pipe organ. Portable no, powerful yes. Thanks for the memories.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Albatross
Date: 05 May 00 - 09:29 AM

There is a Norwegian tradional instrument called the Langeleik. It is a bit like a dulcilmer and it has a special haunting, sweet, emotional and mystical sound. There should be more played at sessions!


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Llanfair
Date: 05 May 00 - 12:12 PM

It's brass bands and male voice choirs that do it to me. I think it's something to do with a number of talented people working together to produce something brilliant.
A bit like Mudcat, really.
Hwyl, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Mbo
Date: 05 May 00 - 12:41 PM

Well, no one has mentioned it yet....even thought I had forgot it myself! The most beautiful sounding instrument in the world is the Chinese erhu. You'd have to hear it to believe it...just one draw of the bow across it's strings will make your heart soar...I kid you not! It ever works well outside traditional CHinese folk music. I saw a folk band once than consisted of drums, electric bass, flute, classical guitar, and erhu....absolutely the most soul-riveting performance I have ever seen...pure Heaven on Earth...

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Passion
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 May 00 - 04:33 AM

An oboe or a French horn - like a woman with a rich, deep voice.

Yes!

Yes!!

Yes!!!


Be still, my heart!
-Joe Offer-


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