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SUZY 08 Jul 97 - 03:41 PM
Kiwi 08 Jul 97 - 08:55 PM
Bobby O'Brien 09 Jul 97 - 07:52 AM
Bert Hansell 09 Jul 97 - 08:38 AM
09 Jul 97 - 08:41 AM
Êèâè - oops, er, Kiwi. (dratted Cyrillic program) 09 Jul 97 - 10:59 AM
09 Jul 97 - 11:12 AM
Merkin 09 Jul 97 - 04:09 PM
Kiwi 09 Jul 97 - 05:39 PM
SUZY 09 Jul 97 - 07:48 PM
Sharon 09 Jul 97 - 07:53 PM
Kiwi 09 Jul 97 - 08:02 PM
Merkin 09 Jul 97 - 11:14 PM
Merkin 09 Jul 97 - 11:19 PM
suzy 10 Jul 97 - 08:29 AM
Bert Hansell 10 Jul 97 - 08:49 AM
Kiwi 10 Jul 97 - 10:13 AM
Kiwi 10 Jul 97 - 10:14 AM
suzy 10 Jul 97 - 11:37 AM
Kiwi 10 Jul 97 - 11:41 AM
Whippoorwill 10 Jul 97 - 12:45 PM
sharon 10 Jul 97 - 12:59 PM
Bill F. 10 Jul 97 - 01:51 PM
Whippoorwill 10 Jul 97 - 01:55 PM
Whippoorwill 10 Jul 97 - 03:23 PM
Kiwi 10 Jul 97 - 03:30 PM
Bill F. 10 Jul 97 - 03:38 PM
Kiwi 10 Jul 97 - 05:10 PM
Buzz 11 Jul 97 - 12:12 AM
Bill 11 Jul 97 - 10:30 AM
Kiwi 11 Jul 97 - 10:41 AM
Whippoorwill 14 Jul 97 - 11:02 AM
14 Jul 97 - 07:19 PM
Rodney Rawlings 16 Jul 97 - 05:43 PM
Bert Hansell 17 Jul 97 - 08:32 AM
Aidan 17 Jul 97 - 05:18 PM
Rodney Rawlings 18 Jul 97 - 09:15 AM
Bill D--extree@erols.com 18 Jul 97 - 01:05 PM
Bert Hansell 18 Jul 97 - 01:28 PM
Bill D 18 Jul 97 - 06:38 PM
kiwi@unagi.cybernothing.org 19 Jul 97 - 08:11 PM
dick greenhaus 19 Jul 97 - 11:03 PM
Whippoorwill 21 Jul 97 - 09:58 AM
Bert Hansell 21 Jul 97 - 10:20 AM
Coralena 21 Jul 97 - 11:23 AM
suzy 21 Jul 97 - 10:47 PM
Kiwi 22 Jul 97 - 06:56 PM
Barbee 23 Jul 97 - 10:23 AM
Whippoorwill 23 Jul 97 - 11:13 AM
Alice 23 Jul 97 - 12:59 PM
Bill in Alabama 23 Jul 97 - 01:10 PM
Woody 23 Jul 97 - 01:33 PM
Bert Hansell 23 Jul 97 - 01:38 PM
Whip 23 Jul 97 - 02:10 PM
suzy 23 Jul 97 - 02:46 PM
Kiwi 23 Jul 97 - 05:38 PM
Alice 24 Jul 97 - 11:41 AM
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Subject: FRIENDS
From: SUZY
Date: 08 Jul 97 - 03:41 PM

JUST MUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT A GREAT BUNCH YOU ARE. I LOOK FORWARD TO CHECKING THIS SITE EACH MORNING - LIKE A VISIT WITH GOOD FRIENDS. YOU'RE ALL SO WILLING TO HELP - ESPECIALLY HAVE GROWN TO APPRECIATE BERT, BILL, KIWI AND CAN'T REMEMBER THE REST OF YOU. JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW "IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU TO CHAT WITH."


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 08 Jul 97 - 08:55 PM

Aww.. I feel so flattered.. someone remembered to mention me! Well, I must confess, I have a similar feeling. One of the high points of my day (I'm out of school 'till fall and have no life until the NY RenFaire starts at the end of July) is checking Email and then hopping on here to see what people have to say. One of the things that I enjoy is the sense of cameraderie, and the sense that we can just sit back and talk about music without worrying about much else. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bobby O'Brien
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 07:52 AM

So, "that's" how you spell cameraderie.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 08:38 AM

That's very nice Suzy, I am an addict as well, I check in two or three times a day.
If any of you friends live in the Philadelphia area I have a 'sing' at my place this Friday
email me if you would like directions
albert.hansell@bentley.com

Come along. Bert.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From:
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 08:41 AM

Suzi, could you possibly not type in all capitals? In standard internet conversations, that is reserved for SHOUTING! It is sort of hard on the eyes to read, and doesn't feel as friendly. Thanks-hope to see you continue here for a long time.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Êèâè - oops, er, Kiwi. (dratted Cyrillic program)
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 10:59 AM

Bobby - yep, that's the spelling. I am I, spell checking woman.. it's about all I'm good for except some harmonic vocals. :) 8:41 AM, please post your name. While shouting is considered a bit rude, so is chiding someone without at least telling them who you _are_. Bert - ah, I wish I could come. I live in New Jersey and will be in Penna this weekend, but family duty (and psychotwink, overprotective parents) prevents me from breaking away and joining in the sing. However, please let me know how it went and what was sung. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From:
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 11:12 AM

Bobby

Cameraderie is the act of taking pictures of your friends.

Frank Phillips


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Merkin
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 04:09 PM

Êèâè ooops, er Kiwi-I was trying to keep what I said below even chiding, and merely make a suggestion. If I must use a name to do that, let it be an interesting one.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 05:39 PM

Forgive me for having a Cyrillics program that occasionally crops up when I type my right shift key without shifting a letter. Some people might find it amusing the first time around, which this was. So lay off and chill out, please?


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: SUZY
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 07:48 PM

Sorry Merkin, I didn't intend to shout. (Although, perhaps I did. It was a loud THANK YOU.) I'm just a poor typist and the caps simplified the shifting - pure laziness, I know. But I'll speak more softly from now on.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Sharon
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 07:53 PM

Cameradarie - nice word. We have a hammered dulcimer group in Indianapolis called Hammeradarie - a self created derivitive (is that spelled incorrectly, Kiwi?) of the work cameradarie.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 08:02 PM

Er.. I'm stressing and not thinking clearly right now.. sorry for snapping at you, Merkin. Hm, I think it's spelled derivative. *wry smile*


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Merkin
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 11:14 PM

Kiwi--and I really wasn't making fun of your post.I thought I was just laughing with you. It is hard to convey facial expression in here.I will try to be more careful. I have read a number of your posts and have come to respect you a lot for what you are doing and thinking. *a respectful bow*


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Merkin
Date: 09 Jul 97 - 11:19 PM

Suzy, great! It gives you a whole different feel! Thanks for hearing. We are genuinely glad to have you here! (and you should see my typing before I correct it as I am about to enter the post.) only about 8 or 10 that time..


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: suzy
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 08:29 AM

Anything to keep such special friends happy. Wouldn't it be fun to have a "gathering of friends" some day. We could sit and chat face to face, play music..... but then anonymity is fun in itself, I guess.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 08:49 AM

A gathering of friends. See my post above. My place this Friday.
Bert.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 10:13 AM

Merkin, please forgive me as well.. I should have asked for your tone before going off on you. But that's why I try to use emoticons when possible.. :) And I hope to continue to see you around here and exchange posts.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 10:14 AM

suzy, that'd be really cool. Kind of like taking the Fantasy Folk Circle and recreating it offline. :) Well, I'm hoping to go to college up in Boston in a year and a half, so if we can get something going on up there, please let me know!


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: suzy
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 11:37 AM

But Indianapolis is a long way from Boston. I might not make it, but sing a song for me.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 11:41 AM

Ah, pity. Still, I'll sing one for you and pour out a bit of Guinness for those who cannot attend. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 12:45 PM

Suzy, meet me opening day of the Indiana State Fair and we can sing along with the Family Reunion String Band. The wife and I try to go opening day each year.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: sharon
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 12:59 PM

Whipporwill: Do you attend Central In. Folk Music/Dulcimer Society?


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill F.
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 01:51 PM

You're right, kiwi, it's "derivative". You must be a teacher, to be throwing around words like "cameraderie" and "derivative." I, too, am a daily visitor to this site, and I enjoy my visits a great deal. Suzy, even though I'm not the Bill you meant in your original post, it seems to me that part of the fun for most traditional musicians seems to be helping out other traditional musicians. I'm away down south in Dixie, but the site allows me to visit with folks from all over.

Merkin: an interesting name, indeed.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 01:55 PM

Sharon: No, we don't. Maybe after I retire in a couple of years, but it's a bit far from Scottsburg right now.

We got acquainted with Family Reunion several years ago at the Fair, and try to spend some time with them each opening day. For now, I'm dividing my time between a Southern Gospel quartet and a bluegrass band.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 03:23 PM

Sharon: No, we don't. Maybe after I retire in a couple of years, but it's a bit far from Scottsburg right now.

We got acquainted with Family Reunion several years ago at the Fair, and try to spend some time with them each opening day. For now, I'm dividing my time between a Southern Gospel quartet and a bluegrass band.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 03:30 PM

Actually, Bill, far from being a teacher, I'm actually a student. Not even in college, I'm a measly little high school junior. I just read a LOT, and as a result, I ended up with a vocabulary of SAT words preprogrammed into my skull. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill F.
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 03:38 PM

Oh, well--it was a logical mistake, I suppose. I have been a teacher so long that I make undue assumptions based on language usage. You surely must be a musician of some sort. Pardon me for intruding on your conversation with the other folks; I'm a frequent visitor here, and I couldn't resist putting in my comments.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 10 Jul 97 - 05:10 PM

Bill -- Yes, I suppose it was a logical assumption.. and very flattering, I might add. What do you teach? And yes, I am a musician.. an incurable one. I've been playing flute for 8 years, saxophone for 2 1/2, piano since I could walk, and I've been singing, well, since I could remember. Music is a crucial part of my life, and if I'm not making it myself, I've always got a tape or CD playing. Matter of fact, I have _Celtic Legacy_ cranked up on the stereo right now. No apologies necessary for breaking into the conversation.. I enjoy conversing with nearly anybody on here.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Buzz
Date: 11 Jul 97 - 12:12 AM

What a nice thread!! I've recently stumbled onto this.. and already I'm virtually addicted... I'm somewhat travelled,"educated," (at least officially), an old folkie, and type and spell so abominably that this challenge is good for me..

Even better is the stimulation re folkie and, I've noticed, F&SF topics - I still play and sing - at whatever level of competance - and read a fair amount of SF, along with some Fantasy. I think this is great...

Cheers


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill
Date: 11 Jul 97 - 10:30 AM

Kiwi: I appreciate your graciousness in allowing me to enter the circle; as my mother would have said, it is mighty thoughty of you. I am a Professor of English and Linguistics at a regional university on the Tennessee River in northern Alabama. I, also, am a musician (banjo, guitar, mandolin, fiddle, vocal), and for the most part I stick with music in the Appalachian tradition. I call it my heritage music, as I am the fifth generation of my family to be born within a 25-mile area in the mountains. All five generations were musicians, and I grew up surrounded by the music which today is called -folk- music. I learned from my parents, from my paternal grandparents, and from friends and neighbors. I don't read music, but I enjoy playing it. Naturally I feel a strong emotional bond with the music of the mountains, and I have thoroughly enjoyed playing and singing it. Enough of the biography. Digitrad is one of my favorite sites, and I check it first thing each morning when I arrive at my office.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 11 Jul 97 - 10:41 AM

Bill: My pleasure. Well, it sounds as though you've had a background that was wonderfully steeped in music. I also grew up surrounded by music, but not as a family tradition. My mother used to play the piano (when she had time), and my sister and brother took lessons, so I wanted to start. I took about six years of piano which has stood me in excellent stead theory-wise. Also, my mother sings in the church choir, so I grew up singing there and branched out into my school choirs last year. And, thanks to the influence of having seen James Galway on TV _once_ (chuckle) I decided to take up flute in fourth grade. So I started early on a lot of things, and my interest has grown.. I'm a music nut - if I'm not playing it myself, I always have a tape or CD playing on the stereo. And DT is now a regular place for me to stop by during the day once I finish checking Email.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 11:02 AM

Sharon: I would like to have more information about the Central Ind. Folk Music/ Dulcimer Society. Please e-mail at rehollis@seidata.com


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Date: 14 Jul 97 - 07:19 PM


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 16 Jul 97 - 05:43 PM

Sure wish I could be part of this nice thread, but I am more of a "pop" than "folk" music person, or, to give it a folk flavor, "pop goes the weasel." I will enter to the extent of saying I visit here almost every day, and sometimes several times a day, because now and then an interesting pop song is discussed, or some fascinating bit of lore is recounted. And there are folk songs that now and then interest me as well. (The Londonderry Air is one of the finest melodies ever created, and often the lyrics of folk songs are so good that I can forgive a trite tune.)

I come to music as a composer in love with melodic genius and great songwriting (I was orginally inspired by hearing in my twenties the MERRY WIDOW melodies). [OUT OF ROOM]


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 17 Jul 97 - 08:32 AM

Rodney, I've always considered you part of this group. Most of your favourite songs fall within MY definition of folk music anyway.

My musical ability is very limited, so I can only benefit from dicussion with those who are more learned.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Aidan
Date: 17 Jul 97 - 05:18 PM

wow!!! what a group!! This is great! Not to interupt, but Kiwi, you sprucked my interest. First, when you mentioned a Ren Fair in NY, then When you mentioned school in Boston, and Finally whem you spoke of your instruments. You see I worked in a Renn Fair as an Actor for a couple summer's down were I live, which is south of Boston. The Fair is Called King Richard's Fair and it's held in carver, Ma. I just graduated H.S. and I'm off to Mannhattan to coolage to study Theatre/voice. Well, I was just curious about which Renn Fair is up in Ny and where it is. And since you said Boston was a choice school, I was curious which school and if you live close by. NOt that any of this is my busy, but curioosity strikes. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 09:15 AM

I'm truly touched to be considered part of this group, as the Internet seems to be rife with toxic personalities who apparently are frightened by different perspectives and opinions, and so far I have not encountered it on Mudcat (by the way, is that a kind of fish?).
I know I am a bit of an outsider to folk, because I do believe it can be defined - in terms of a certain range of subject-matter and a certain world-view - and the concept is irrelevant to my interest, which is primarily song and melody as such (see http://www.druid.net/~rodney/).
So Elsie, who would like to restrict the Forum a bit more, has a point - and if her recommendation is followed, I will just come less often or find another forum, with no hard feelings. But "Today, while the blossoms still cling to the vine, / I'll taste your strawberries, I'll drink your sweet wine. / A million tomorrows shall all pass away / Ere I forget all the joy that is mine. / Today."


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill D--extree@erols.com
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 01:05 PM

Rodney---I also, like Elsie,Barry Finn, LaMarca & several others wish this forum were more restricted...simply as a pratical matter...you can't be all things to all people.(And Max, the owner, has just posted a reply in another thread which says that there is enough traffic at the site sometimes that access has slowed)
Rather than have it seem snobby and 'restricted', I would like this site to simply be considered a nice, friendly place to come when you have research or questions about the stated purpose--folk/blues/traditional music.We really need similar sites for other areas of interest run by someone who really knows the other needs better...and some people, like Joe Offer, and you, Rodney, would happily visit those sites as well as this one-- where you would find it even easier to find what you need. And the various sites could refer people back & forth in a cooperative way. I expect that it will happen someday...the WWW is still pretty new. I wouldn't even be surprised if Max & Dick G. would provide some advise & tech help to someone who wanted to form a sister forum to this.
Everyone really knows there ARE different types of music, even if the 'definitions' are tricky to pin down, and there is an obvious need for those who have narrow interests to have a place to go without being overwhelmed by the stuff they have no immediate interest in. I do hope we can achieve this without TOO many hard feelings and awkward discussions....


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 01:28 PM

Aw! I ENJOY the discussions :-)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jul 97 - 06:38 PM

me too---up to the point when people start taking impassioned speeches as personal affronts


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: kiwi@unagi.cybernothing.org
Date: 19 Jul 97 - 08:11 PM

Rodney - yes, isn't it great? This is an impressive gathering of some truly cool people with great personalities and good taste in music and friendships. :) Aidan - Well, I can give you the full rundown on RenFaire, Boston, and instruments, if you like - but to spare these people my babbling, how about you Email me and I'll post it to you privately?


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Jul 97 - 11:03 PM

To Whom It May Concern- A Mudcat is a small, edible catfish. Make of THAT what you will.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 21 Jul 97 - 09:58 AM

Dick: I usually make a meal out of four or five of them. Roll them in corn meal and skillet- or deep-fry, a little potato salad on the side with corn bread and lots of butter.... 'scuse me, I'm drooling on the keyboard.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 21 Jul 97 - 10:20 AM

Don't forget the "Hush Puppies"


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Coralena
Date: 21 Jul 97 - 11:23 AM

Dick Greenhaus, you have the patience of a saint. Thank you for being you :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: suzy
Date: 21 Jul 97 - 10:47 PM

Yes, Dick and Bert are 2 of my favorites people here


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 22 Jul 97 - 06:56 PM

yes, and they put up with so much guff from the rest of us. :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Barbee
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 10:23 AM

I'm new here but if this link is what this site is all about, It's for me. what a friendly group you must be


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 11:13 AM

Barbee: We have our moments.

Suzy: When I first found the site, this was the first string I ran across. Then I found your comments on other strings, and I thought, "This girl's not for real. Nobody could bubble like that all the time." I was wrong. You do, and I'm glad. You add a touch of lightness when some of the rest of us become too earnest and too taken with our own opinions. We appreciate you.

Now I'll go back to being a grumpy old man.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Alice
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 12:59 PM

I just want to chime in here that those who communicate on this site are the friendliest, most interesting, and most considerate people I have encountered on the internet. {{{{{group hug}}}}} (Sorry, that hug might have been going too far in the sappy direction.) Alice in Montana


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 01:10 PM

Alice: Where in Montana? We have a nephew in East Glacier.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Woody
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 01:33 PM

I think this is the best thing since sliced bread. I love this site. I can take a few minutes of my busy work day and enjoy reading the latest threads. It's the people who take the time to write into this site who make it great. But I have to be truthful and let you know that it's now becoming more than a few minutes a day and loving it!!!

Woody from Newfoundland


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 01:38 PM

Thanks Alice. I can always use a hug.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whip
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 02:10 PM

It is a proven scientific fact that the average man requires a minimum of 5 hugs a day just to survive, and 15 to remain a rational, thinking entity.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: suzy
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 02:46 PM

wow! whippoorwill (sorry if I misspelled it) You made my day. I have my moments of down in the dumps like everyone else, but when I contact all of you sweet folk, I can forget daily hassles for a little while. Chatting with all of you refreshes, excites and keeps me going. thanks to all of you for being here. Hey, psychotherapists may complain - we may cut into their business!!


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Kiwi
Date: 23 Jul 97 - 05:38 PM

Alice - awwww.... :) Whip: :)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Alice
Date: 24 Jul 97 - 11:41 AM

Good morning worthy music buddies. Here are your {{{{5}}}} for today to survive and your {{{{{{15}}}}}}} to keep you rational and thinking. (If you are a newbie to this thread, now read the messages backwards to find out what this means!) Alice ;-)


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Whip
Date: 24 Jul 97 - 11:49 AM

Ahhh!!
Thanks, Alice, I needed that.


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: Alice
Date: 19 Oct 98 - 02:32 PM

I'm refreshing this thread from July of '97. Here are {{{{{hugs}}}}} 5 more hugs from me to all the new Mudcat addicts who have joined in the last year and three months. I have really developed some meaningful communication contacts with people I have met on the Mudcat. Welcome to all the new friends who have discovered this site. The more the merrier!

Alice in Montana


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Subject: RE: FRIENDS
From: malena
Date: 19 Oct 98 - 03:23 PM

Hi Alice,

I missed you in the Mudcat-TheWorld-thread, so I´m happily surprised to meet you here. I´ve just gone through this thread and find it´s a nice one, so thanx for reviving it. Whip talks of average men needing hugs, but I think women need them quite as much, so here´s for you (((20)))!

Love, Daniel


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