Subject: Woods of Arboe From: Conán Date: 11 Jun 00 - 08:36 PM This song is widely known in East Donegal and in some parts of the Six Counties. Howevewr, there was a famous young man by the name of Mc Carran from the region who had a song written about him. Has anyone any information on same ? Conán |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 12 Jun 00 - 03:59 AM Is that Ardboe (Arboe) in Co. Tyrone at the top of the Lough, Conán? My Grandfather visited Boston at the beginning of the 1900's, and came back with a song called 'The Old Cross of Ardboe'. I don't have the words here, but do you have any more info? I might be able to find out something more about it, as there's a few Ardboe songs knocking about! B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Conán Date: 12 Jun 00 - 02:50 PM No connection. the song isd situated in East Donegal. Conán |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 15 Jun 00 - 03:14 AM I've been asking a few questions here and there, Conán. Nothin' yet. Refresh. B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 27 Sep 00 - 06:00 PM Brendy Did you ever get the lyrics from your Grandfather for "The Old Cross of Ardboe"?... I'd be interested to see them for one... Cheers Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 27 Sep 00 - 08:27 PM I'll be over home in a couple of weeks, Mick. I used to have a copy of the words in an old song book, but I think I left it in Clare, before I came over here. It's only forty verses, and it wont detain you long!! B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 28 Sep 00 - 02:08 PM Cheers Brendy... I'll look forward to while away the long cold winter nights engrossed in it's 40 verses.. Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: SingsIrish Songs Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:46 PM Yes, sir, you will, Mick....like you've got nothing better to do. LOL Can't wait to see the lyrics myself--the title caught my attention. Cheers everyone! Mary |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 15 Oct 00 - 04:52 AM Brendy Just checking to see whether you managed to find the lyrics and the time to type them all up. Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 29 Oct 00 - 06:03 PM Yep...me nagging again... Any luck yet Brendy???? Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 29 Oct 00 - 09:33 PM Brendy - let us know when you have the lyrics. If not I maty be able to get them from my brother. He lives on the Ardboe road about 100 yards from the Old Cross. He's not very interested in music but I'm sure he could find the words. I did hear a tune played on the flute called the "Woods of Ardboe" at a funeral mass in the church at Ardboe whe I was home one time visiting the same brother, it was hauntingly beautiful, I did not know there was a song about it, I will follow up on this as well. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 29 Oct 00 - 09:43 PM ConAn, Sorry but I meant to add this to my last response re " The Woods of Ardboe" - There is a Donegal song called "The Woods of Drumbo", could this be the one by any chance. It commemorates 4 members of a flying column who were shot by Free State troopers near Stranorlar, Co Donegal.There names were Enright, O'Donnell, Dawly and Larkin. They came from Kerry, Cork and Derry, I will still search for the Ardboe one anyway. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 01 Nov 00 - 08:12 PM Refresh |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 04 Nov 00 - 08:38 PM I'm beginning to think that the old cross at Arboe has been pulled down Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Wolfgang Date: 05 Nov 00 - 04:42 AM If Jimmy's right, that song is in Colm O Lochlainn's 'More Irish street ballads'. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 02 Dec 00 - 02:11 PM Hello folks. Well, I got to yer man's house who had the copy of the song, and lo and behold, he was off playing in the States for a few months. "Farewell you verdant green-clad hills". B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 02 Dec 00 - 03:36 PM Brendy, No word from my Brother in Ardboe yet, he never was one for writing or phoning. It looks like you are on the right track. Looking forward to seeing the words posted. The tune would be nice to have also, Slan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 02 Dec 00 - 08:48 PM Thanks guys... I wait with bated breath Cheers Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: GUEST,Conán Date: 02 Dec 00 - 09:52 PM "Oh, what a rogue and peasant slave am I!", to coin a phrase. Of course, the song is "The Woods of Drumbo." How could I have been so stupid!!! Apologies, folks. Conán |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 02 Dec 00 - 10:12 PM Well, Conán, the words are out there somewhere. But the story of the executions is here - click here - B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 03 Dec 00 - 02:09 AM ConAn, I will get you the words soon, before the end of next week for sure. Brendy, Thanks for the article about the executions, it's great to get this type of information. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE WOODS OF DRUMBO From: Jimmy C Date: 03 Dec 00 - 02:23 AM ConAn, just found some extra time so here you go.
THE WOODS OF DRUMBO
Twas the eve of St.Patrick,at the dawn of the day
They were Enright, O'Donnell and Dawly by name
These four Irish soldiers were dragged from their cell
Three left their homesteads in Kerry's green vale
The church bells rang out in the cool morning air
Let Tireconnel ne'er boast of her honour and fame Slan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 03 Dec 00 - 02:27 AM A fine Lyric Addition, Jimmy. Nice one. B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 03 Dec 00 - 03:25 PM Brendy, you're welcome, I would still like to see the words to the one that starts
- "Farewell you verdant green-clad hills". Slan |
Subject: Lyr Add: OLD CROSS OF ARDBOE (John Canavan) From: Jimmy C Date: 26 Dec 00 - 01:35 AM Brendy, Thought you might be interested in the following "OLD CROSS OF ARDBOE" This was by the poet John Canavan and was originally called "The Emigrants Farewell".
Fare ye well my native green clad hills
Shall I ever see the grand old plains
Shall I ever rove by Belmonts grove
Shall my oars e're rest on your wild wave crest
Shall I ne'er behold Shane's Castle bold
All for you Ardboe my tears do flow
My friends out here in America
Now hence, also long years have passed
The original 8 verses above were shortened and combined to the following 4, and somehow the title was changed to " The Old Cross of Ardboe"
Fare ye lovely green clad hills
Shall I ever stray by the Washing Bay
Shall I ever rove by Belmonts grove
And though alas, long years have passed
enjoy
Slan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 26 Dec 00 - 01:41 AM Brendy, sorry about that, the second verse should be
Shall I ever stray by the Washing Bay |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Mick Lowe Date: 26 Dec 00 - 07:15 PM Thanks Jimmy.. And I didn't get chance before to wish everyone a Merry Christmas Mick |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 26 Dec 00 - 10:02 PM Great piece of research, there, Jimmy. I remember the tune as being similar to 'The Rocks of Bawn'. My Uncle Séamus would sing it from time to time, and although I got the words on paper (which is a moot point, really, when all's said and done), I never saw a tune written down for it, and have only my rememberances of Séamus doing it. But I really think I should learn this song; too often we forget gems like this, in favour of the more 'well known' ballads, that present day audiences crave. That's how songs get lost, and I'm grateful that this little pebble got stuck in your shoe, and that you persevered. My own copy of the song should arrive sometime next month, as I mentioned to you in the PM, and I remember it was about two and a half typed foolscap pages in length (hence the 'It's only forty verses...'). From my recollection of them, your posting seems to be spot on. I've got a wee pebble in my shoe, now. Thanks, Jimmy. B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: GUEST,Thingy Date: 27 Dec 00 - 09:46 PM How does this relate to the Scottish song "MAcPherson's Rant"? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: GUEST,Conán Date: 27 Dec 00 - 10:13 PM I'm afraid that I have inadvertantly been the instigator of a double thread. The song I had in mind was the "Woods of Drumbo" The words supplied and the history behind the incident are very welcome, but the intrusion of "Woods of Arboe" only causes confusion. Should this not have been dealt with in a separate thread? Quite apart from all this, what of the man Mc Carron from the area of the Twin Towns in East Donegal who played a prominent part in the War of Independence, apparently, but of whom no mention is made? Conán |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Brendy Date: 27 Dec 00 - 10:21 PM Look, Conán. You got what you wanted, didn't you? Not that you really knew what you wanted, in the first place. Take it easy, man. You didn't exactly contribute a whole heap to the thread; not enough to get pissed off at the way it meandered, anyway. B. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: Jimmy C Date: 27 Dec 00 - 10:48 PM Brendy, you tell it like it is son. ConAn, this sometimes happens here, threads go in all different directions, I think its great so long as nobody gets insulted, ignored, or pissed off. You are waiting for info on McCarron, well sooner or later somebody will find out something, in the meantime be a little patient until we do more research. Happy New Year. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: GUEST,Conán Date: 28 Dec 00 - 04:32 PM Brendy and JimmyC, I've just re-read my apology and cannot understand anyone accusing me of being pissed off - which I most assuredly was not !! - unless some people are only too ready to jump down other people's throats and look for reasons where there are none. As for not adding anything to the thread, how is it possible to add something to the discussion of a topic about which you have already confessed your ignorance by asking the question in the first place? People's expectations of me are occasionally too high. Conán |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: SingsIrish Songs Date: 29 Jan 01 - 08:13 PM First off, my simple thoughts on thread confusion: The beauty of Mudcat is that one question can lead to an uncovering of loads of unrelated information on songs, other than a possible similarity in title...as has happened here. It is great that mudcatters correctly identified the song you/Conán had in mind as The Woods of Drumbo. The discussion on the Old Cross of Ardboe or The Woods of Arboe is no doubt due to the original thread title... Confusion is threads happens...it's great! No doubt this thread will be referred to if either song is discussed in a new thread... Now on to more important things... This past weekend I was visiting a friend of mine and mentioned these song titles--ie both Drumbo and Ardboe/Arboe. He is from the Tyrone and seemed very familiar with "The Woods of Drumbo". Now that I have refreshed in my mind the details of the original inquiry (ie info on Mc Carran/Mc Carron), I shall pass the question onto my friend and see if he has any information or leads...it might take a little while, but will post a follow-up either way. Cheers! Mary |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Woods of Arboe From: GUEST,Conán Date: 30 Jan 01 - 06:22 PM Mary, you're a wee dote! Conán |
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