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Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.

robroy 02 Jul 00 - 07:08 AM
Peter Kasin 02 Jul 00 - 04:45 AM
GUEST,Crazy Eddie 02 Jul 00 - 03:38 AM
GUEST,Joerg 02 Jul 00 - 12:12 AM
GUEST,Colwyn Dane 30 Jun 00 - 08:03 PM
GUEST,bbc (on vacation in Missouri) 30 Jun 00 - 06:14 PM
Clinton Hammond2 30 Jun 00 - 05:14 PM
Mbo 30 Jun 00 - 05:08 PM
GUEST,MoloMolo (Guest) 30 Jun 00 - 05:04 PM
Whistle Stop 30 Jun 00 - 03:46 PM
MMario 30 Jun 00 - 02:37 PM
Peg 30 Jun 00 - 02:07 PM
phil h 30 Jun 00 - 01:13 PM
Hollowfox 30 Jun 00 - 12:01 PM
Mbo 30 Jun 00 - 12:00 PM
GUEST,JulieF 30 Jun 00 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,John Hill 30 Jun 00 - 10:41 AM
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Pixie 29 Jun 00 - 06:55 PM
Willie-O 29 Jun 00 - 10:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: robroy
Date: 02 Jul 00 - 07:08 AM

I'm impressed by the fact that English can be used in this manner because every one seems to understand what is meant, howevr clumsily or even ungrammatically.

Derryn Hinch a journalist on Australian TV,once stated during his commentry on a cyclone in the Philipines that as it passed over 30,000 people evacuated. On the otherhand I never got over my 'Lavatorial' sense of humour


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 02 Jul 00 - 04:45 AM

Here in California, you get your lawn mowed by a "landscape architect," your hair is cut by a "consultant." and now everywhere there is no more spaghetti, only "pasta." How about "cuisine"/ It's not the word itself that's wrong, just it's use in all sorts of non-French foods. Restaurants that advertise "Chinese cuisine" etc.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 02 Jul 00 - 03:38 AM

New words I can cope with, but complete disregard for any form of grammar bugs me.

"A is different than B" WRONG BUT, which is correct: "A is different FROM B" or "A is different to B"

"Between 8 to 10 people" EITHER "From 8 to 10" OR "Betweenn 8 and 10"

Question. A man divided $100 between his children. How much did each child receive? Answer: $50. If there were more than two children, the question would have read, "A man divided $100 AMONGST his children"

Between used to mean between TWO. Now everyone uses "between" for any number.

My favorite phrase, "currently functioning in a non-operational mode" was used when the copier broke down!

Good new words from my twelve year old niece are "chillax" meaning chill out and relax and "chill-pill" as in "take a chill-pill" meaning don't get upset/excited. LOL :o) Eddie


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Joerg
Date: 02 Jul 00 - 12:12 AM

Colwyn - what about 'mananaing'. Maybe not 'beautiful' enough...


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Colwyn Dane
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 08:03 PM

Make me a beautiful word for doing things tomorrow; for that surely is a great and blessed invention.

G.B.Shaw - Back to Methuselah (1921)

Any suggestions folks?

'Tompotentialising', from me, is not gonna win any beauty contest.

Toodle-pip.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,bbc (on vacation in Missouri)
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 06:14 PM

Hi, Nicole,

Segue was already covered--a conversational transition is the usage I know, as in "That was a smooth segue!" We usually use it ironically in my family, as in the case of my son saying, "As I was saying" when he hasn't been speaking! "Face time" kills me. In a business setting, one executive requests "face time" of another, as in "face-to-face" time, as opposed to communicating by phone, email, fax, etc. It's an interesting commentary on modern society that we need to specify "face time," don't you think?

best,

bbc


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 05:14 PM

Non-event!! LOL!!!!!!

that's a good one...

Everyone here shoiuld check out George Carlins Book, "BrainDroppings" Alot of great rants based on language and people who mangle it!

If i had the time I'd key 'em in but it's a pretty thick book and my typing sucks!

{~`


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 05:08 PM

I hear ya Molo! Last year, during the terrible record-breaking floods we had here in eastern North Carolina due to Tropical Storm Dennis/Hurricane Floyd, every thing on the news was "inundated" this, "inundated" that. I never want to hear that word again!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,MoloMolo (Guest)
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 05:04 PM

Devastated!! They were devastated by........(fill in the blank.)


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 03:46 PM

Wow -- long thread! The one that sticks in my craw is the tendency to use "they" as a singular pronoun, as in "If your child stays home sick from school, make sure they bring a note in the next day." This is done to make up for the fact that the English language does not contain a gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun; the rules of grammar dictate that one should use the word "he" in this context, even if the subject's gender is unknown. I can understand that this offends some people, but the solution is to invent a gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun. Using a plural pronoun as if it were a singular pronoun is just bad form, in my opinion.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: MMario
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 02:37 PM

"my bad" is jargon for "I'm bad" , "face time" I believe is direct contact rather then communication through memo or e-mail or phone.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Peg
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 02:07 PM

Gee whillikers! (she said hoping to inject some arcane enthusiasm) this is a fun thread...as a former teacher of college English, I have to say, this country is going to hell in a handbasket in many ways, not the least of which having to do with the utter illiteracy of America's youth. They can't write, folks. Why? In the main because they don't read anymore. Pure and simple. Total lack of familiarity and comfort with the language: speaking it, reading it, thinking about it, recognizing it...it is a shame, really. I tried assigning my students essays critiquing their favorite books and most of them did not even have one; many in fact asked if they could write about a movie that had once been a book! (only viewed on video of course)

One of my professors in graduate school (a rather famous African-American writer) once said something which really struck home: he said he believed that one of the major problems with our country was that kids (and adults ) did not read anymore; and that reading about other people and their problems and joys and solutions to life's problems allowed us to walk in their shoes for a while; in other words, it taught us to have sympathy and empathy for them. Nowadays, we don't give a shit about anyone but ourselves. Think of that next time you are cut off in traffic, snubbed in a singles' bar, sniggered at by a group of strangers because of your looks or your dress or your accent or your taste in booze, women, men, dogs...

to read is to immerse ourselves in ideas, emotions, images, conversations, mysteries, love affairs, jokes, history lessons, recipes, games, myths, rituals, songs of spirit, songs of heart's blood, songs of life...we cannot help but become richer and smarter and nobler as a result...

(but while we're on the subject, I get really annoyed when people say or write "suppose to" when they mean "supposed to" or when they mix up there, their and they're, or your and you're, or it's and its...)


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: phil h
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 01:13 PM

How about "ourselves" & "yourselves" instead of us and you, and why is the personnel department now called "human resources"? Phil


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Hollowfox
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 12:01 PM

Plain Writing has a long history. I was shown an example of hard-to-decipher calligraphy that (I'm told) was used by the Vatican when some higher-up didn't want the meaning of the missive to be easily understood. Herre's two to hate: "situation" e.g. children are in a play situation (used to be called playing), and "service" as a verb. We had a speaker for a professional training day tell the entire staff that we were working there to service the patrons of our library. Nobody laughed or seemed insulted. the only time I've heard service as a verb involved either brothels or artificial insemination (a bovine brothel?).


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 12:00 PM

I also dislike the term "non-event". It makes no sense!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,JulieF
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 11:58 AM

I hate the phrase - "its a nightmare" as a soon as its said I know that whoever I've gone to see is going to moan like hell and I'm not going to get any emphusiasim for the project.

My all time least favourite word has to be poorly - local dialect meaning not well /ill , even worse is proper poorly - it just seems to trivialise it. As in being really poorly in hospital. I played the heavy parent and had the word banned at home.

Julie


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,John Hill
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 10:41 AM

Since when was "orientate" a new word..


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 08:02 PM

I don't like "sad" in it's newest meaning ("to be regarded with contempt") - it's the attitude involved that I find distasteful, which is covered by Peter T's third category ("does the new word capture something ugly in the society that we don't like, and we attack the word because it refers to the thing we don't like?").

It also comes under a fourth catergory which he didn't mention, which is, "does this use of the word take away our freedom to use this word in an existing and valuable sense"

That's the reason why so many people regret the reassignment of "gay" - it's not that there weren't valid reasons for people wanting a new non-pejorative word for homosexual - but "gay" was a really handy word where it was (and especially good for rhyming purposes), and there isn't really a replacement for it that I can think of. "Jolly"? "Lighthearted"? Neither means the same - or sounds it either. Too ponderous by half.

Within a few years I suspect "gay" will have worn out it's newer meaning, and be dropped - but I doubt if it will ever come back to its earlier meaning.

So that will mean we'll have lost both sad and gay.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Pixie
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 06:55 PM

Hey, Kendall! IRREgardless.....is definitely NOT one of my favorite words, but I get exposed to it all the time...which is why it is included in my thread....Could it be a double negative?????

How about the mis-use of "atypical" where "atypical" becomes the "norm" instead of the "unusual"?


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 10:53 AM

I'm with Meebo on "no-brainer". It is a particularly insulting and lazy way of saying "I can't be bothered explaining this logically, but you're an idiot if you don't take my word for it."

Like Kendall, I had some eye-opening exposure to Plain Writing, a movement which not only encourages and teaches simple direct communication, but looks at the reasons why people write such awful mishmash. One is, indeed, that they don't wish to be understood. Another even scarier reason is that they're trying to impress rather than communicate--and somehow a lot of people have genuinely gotten the idea that bigger words make better writing, even if they don't understand them or fit them in a sentence correctly. (The literacy program I worked for once got a letter of application for a teaching assistant job which stated "I believe it would be an asset for me to work with youse".

One of the funniest things I ever read was a sharp analysis of New Age jargon written by two 14-year-old girls who grew up at Findhorn Community in Scotland. Wish I could find that article, which was in one of Findhorn's many publications. What I remember is:

  • "Focus!" = "Shut up and listen to me!"
  • "I support you" = "I am faintly interested in what you are talking about but not willing to do anything."

Willie-O
who does go on but tries to have a point here and there.

p.s. Nicole, a segue is a clever transition between two different musical pieces or conversational topics. No idea what the other ones are. No-brainers fer sure.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 09:54 AM

I agree with most of the examples cited above. But one irritant that seems to have escaped notice so far is the conversion of 'key' into a free-standing adjective - as in "Yes, that's absolutely key!" (A response often used by government spokespersons on radio or TV, when the interviewer has just asked them the question they were hoping for, and not the one they were afraid of getting.)


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Morticia
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 09:24 AM

Just picked up another from a social services conference I was at this morning ...you know we may be the worst offenders of all....anyway, it's 'having a dialogue with'.....rather than talking to


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mbo
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 09:12 AM

Banjo Johnny, my sister has the whole story on the term "Bob's your uncle" which of course means "it's that simple", or "simple as that." The long and the short of it was that a rather inexperienced man received a high-ranking position in the British government, solely, because of his uncle Robert, also known as Bob was a hugely popular and well-respected goverment official. My sister has all the names and dates and specifics...I'll post them later today.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Nicole Leonard
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 08:04 AM

Wow, this thread is fascinating! I have never heard of some of this stuff! What are "segue", "face time" and "my bad"? I have never heard of any of them and have no idea what they might mean. (On the other hand, "vet" is no problem).


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Nicole Leonard
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 08:00 AM

Wow, this thread is fascinating! I have never heard of some of this stuff! What are "segue", "face time" and "my bad"? I have never heard of any of them and have no idea what they might mean. (On the other hand, "vet" is no problem).


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Airto
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 05:26 AM

I've just tried to enter the biztravel.com site only to be told that it is "temporarily unavailable due to a scheduled maintenance outage".


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Jun 00 - 04:07 AM

What about that thing you hear on the tube all the time (I don't watch the bloody thing but my housemates do):yada yada yada instead of just and so forth, or something of that sort?

Amergin


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 07:58 PM

I think that something Peter T said, up the thread, neatly sorts out the different issues involved here:

"There are three different issues here:

is the new word filling a function that a previously useful word was handling perfectly well ("impact" as opposed to "affected by"?

does the new word just sound ugly (prioritize)?

does the new word capture something ugly in the society that we don't like, and we attack the word because it refers to the thing we don't like?"

All these are valid reasons to be irritated. When it's just a case of some words being seen as "not good English" I think it's a bit more suspect.

Whether a word is in a dictionary doesn't matter too much - all the words we use were in common use before they ever made it into a dictionary. Shakespeare and Chaucer never saw a dictionary in their life, because they did't exist, and Sakespeare especially seems to have made up his spelling as he went along (including that of his own name), and it doesn't seem to have hurt his use of langage.

The third category Peter gives is the one where I find myself getting angry. Especially the use of language as a way of pretending that things are better than they are. "Downsizing" instead of "sacking"; "terminate" instead of "kill" ("with extreme prejudice").

And the phrases tossed around by Social Workers (of whom I used to be one till I retired) so glibly - "I hear what you say" (with the unspoken meaning "But I don't give it any weight"), and most of all "In a perfect world" (meaning "I'm not going to stick my neck out to help you get what you need"). Here it's not the language itself. but the use of it as a shield against real contact. Like "sharing", which is a great word, and a great concept, but misused and exploited so that it can become almost impossible to use.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Banjo Johnny
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 07:23 PM

If you try that "irregardless" trick, you had better check your dictionary beforehand -- not all words (or non-words) appear in all dictionaries. I have in my hands a very large Webster dictionary that does not contain the word "varsity". Is it a word, or not? Another dictionary grudgingly describes it as a corrupt form of 'university'. If so, how can there be a high school varsity team?

The Webster also fails to include "reprise". Musicians, do you know what a reprise is? Of course you do, but is it in your dictionary?

ASIDE: If there are any Brits still reading this long thread, can you please explain "Bob's your uncle"? I have a vague idea that it means "prove it". In any case, WHY does it mean anything? Is it one of your Cockney Rhymes? Thanks for your help!

Johnny in Oklahoma City


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mooh
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 06:44 PM

Knowing that my Dad, a retired clergyman, heartily disliked the word "humungous", I glanced at him to revel in his grimace when we heard it from the pulpit (of all places), spoken by a young relatively inexperienced preacher. He hadn't reacted, I suppose because the message transcends mere words at the proper times in life. Maybe I should have been paying more attention to the message.

Still learning to listen, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Homeless
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 06:14 PM

I agree with kendall. Yes, it was in the dictionary, but the dictionary stated that it was incorrect - hence, not a word.

I just got an e-mail from a national company that stunned me with its mistakes. It said, "its' entirety. Be sure and visit . . ." Its is a possessive and doesn't need a quotation mark. And don't they teach what an infinitive is? I can't believe how many people say "Try and (insert verb of choice here)." And while I'm ranting I'll throw in "could/would/should of."

Phew. I feel better now.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: kendall
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 05:12 PM

I wouldn't have paid the bet. In proper English, there is no such word.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 05:07 PM

copied & pasted from a thread last September on regional humor...it says something about the use of language..and maybe about that 'other' thread on religion that is going now:

just remembered a true story my father told...

He was a Western Union lineman (dug the hole, put up the poles, strung the wire)from about 1927 to about 1947. This often entailed living for days or weeks in 'outfit' cars on the railroad..(you may have seen some..grey cars with windows and stairs at each end..kind of a cheap, wooden bunkhouse on tracks)...anyway, they had to cook for themselves, just like in Bruce Phillips story.

So, one night, they were sitting down to dinner for the usual plain fare...some sort of fried meat, boiled potatoes...etc...when a guy from Texas called to a guy from Arkansas at the other end of the table..."hey, Shorty, pass the spuds.."....well, Shorty got this look on his face and glared at 'Tex'...and admonished him, "Tex, dammit..don't call 'em 'spuds'...call 'em 'taters, whut they aire."


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 04:26 PM

Hi All,

I guess I have to agree with much of what's been said here but the best point was made by GUEST,Hilary in NZ, and Homeless. English is an evolving and changing language. As long as it continues to evolve in this way it will continue to be the dominant language on the planet.

Still, some of the new words and uses of words are painful to encounter. There is one that gets me every time I drive by a video store. Why do we have to PRE-book a new videtape? If you book something aren't you reserving it? So what do are you doing when you pre-book something?


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 04:15 PM

Sit through "My Cousin Vinny", you'll find a million of them. Everyone's favorite: Yutes.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 04:10 PM

Yet ANOTHER thing I dislike is the use of the word "experiencing". In Japan it was always "We are experiencing technical difficulties" or "We are experiencing tropical weather conditions" like it was the crowning moment of your life or something!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Gary T
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 04:01 PM

Seamus, you'll find that the word "gullible" is NOT in the dictionary.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 03:54 PM

SDShad and Kendall, I once lost a $50 bet on "Irregardless." A friend used it in a conversation one night, and I stated that there was no such word. He averred that there was, and in fact, that it was in the dictionary. The bet was made, and the following day, in he comes with a Webster's, and sure enough the bloody word was there, admittedly with the admonition "incorrect, but in common usage." So now I use the word knowing full well that it is incorrect, but in the perpetual hope that some smarty-pants will wager me $50 that iin the dictionary, and I can recoup my loss. All the best. Seamus


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 03:48 PM

What I want to know is, when did weather become an event? As in "rain event" or even "sun event." And a tornado become a "micro burst"? And when did tv and radio people who aren't quite stars become "personalities"?

My husband's current irritant is "content provider." He's a writer, fer-pete's-sake! And a good one!

And even if I were one, I'd resent being identified as a "consumer." (Except, perhaps, of dinner.)

Bat Goddess


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Banjo Johnny
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 03:20 PM

I don't think anyone objects to new, useful words. It's the misuse of our old favorites that gets our undeys in a bundle.

Is this a good time to put in a complaint about the verb "to diagnose"? Perhaps an injury or ailment can 'be diagnosed' by a doctor. However, a patient cannot "be diagnosed with phlebitis," for crying out loud. The sufferer is not the disease.

Incidentally, my motorcycle mechanic assures me that 'mainly dogs get flea-bite-us.'

I, too, have wondered about 'vet', so I looked it up in the Big Fat Dictionary, which gives, "2. Brit. vt. to examine closely." How about those Brits!

This thread is good because it reminds us all of the blunders to avoid during conversations with ordinary (non-musical but educated) people.

Johnny in Oklahoma City, "Toe-Tappin' Tunes & Fancy Patter"


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 02:46 PM

Great thread!

I'm ROTFLMFAO here!
As a frequent chatter online, I feel I must leap to the defence of those stupid strings of letters... It's all to easy to lose the emotion of an exchange on the net and 'emoticons' are almost a necessity...

My personal language pet-peve is "My bad"... If you're sorry, say so! Likely what bugs me most is that it seems like the people who use "my bad" are not really sorry for whatever it is they feel they must "my bad" for...

Oh and no need above janitor level for ebonics... that's true but they still teach ethics too, no?

{~`


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Bert
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 02:28 PM

Mbo, you just reminded me. < blink >


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 02:05 PM

I also can't stand "Your money back." Not only is it a fragment and grammatically incorrect, but it makes no blinkin' sense!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Gary T
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:45 PM

Several years ago I saw an ad in a magazine for little self-adhesive drawings of a screw, just the right size to cover the heart symbol on those bumper stickers. I still wish I'd bought some.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Morticia
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:42 PM

My personal bile and loathing is saved for those t-shirts and bumper stickers that use a heart symbol to stand for love, as in 'I heart my dog'......saw one once that sported 'I spade my cat', oh how we laughed.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Micca
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:37 PM

I always assumed that when someone was "vetted" they came second in a ball-race with a Veternarian? **BG***


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Gary T
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:27 PM

I miss the verb "lend", which has been all but obliterated by "loan".

For quite a while I've been hearing the verb "vet", I believe most recently in the phrase "He ws vetted...". Now, I don't think of myself as particularly slow to grasp language concepts, but I have not yet been able to deduce its meaning from the contexts where I've seen it. Any help?


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: GUEST,Penny S.
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 01:18 PM

What really bugs me in management-speak is putting sets of possibly-rhyming-or-if-that-fails-alliterating words together in a sequence which is supposed to define some process or other as if they mean somthing different from the original meaning.

I was introduced to this via a sequence about group working which included forming, storming, conforming, reforming and another one, probably not in that order, and spent my time not doing any of those things but wondering why it was essential to include the break up of a successful team in the sequence. I wanted to inform the manager that I would deform him if he tried it on. And I cannot remember the lesson, because it was stripped of meaning.

I recently, in my tours round churches, found one which was in the throes of forming a united parish with another. There was a leaflet about this, telling the parishioners that the process of change was like that of bereavement, with recognisable stages - ending in acceptance, of course, done in such a managerese sequence, which left no room for a process of telling anyone how you felt about it if it didn't fit the word-string. Ugh.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: kendall
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 12:40 PM

Mbo, I cant speak for others, but, personally, when someone keeps saying "like" every three or four words, it's the same as someone saying ahh or uh every three or four words. It turns my head off and I quit listening. I find that sort of thing similar to profanity for the sake of profanity. Definition of profanity..The effort of a feeble mind to express itself. I get bored very quickly with someone who is so limited, dare I say "grammatically challenged?" New words, finalize.. Pres. Eisenhower. Normalcy. Pres. Harding. Probably the dullest knife in the White house drawer.


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Subject: RE: Worst New Words in the 'English' Lang.
From: Mooh
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 12:01 PM

My favourite local use is "yous" as the plural of "you". Sometimes as the singular too. "Yous guys goin' drinkin'." I've even seen it spelt "use". Mooh.


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