NO BS: Republican Chicanery

Subject: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: GUEST,The Yank
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 08:31 PM

What a coincidence that a Grand Jury empanelled last month to further the useless (and enormously costly to the U.S. Taxpayer) Lewinsky witch-hunt IS ANNOUNCED TONIGHT!!

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 08:52 PM

Even stranger, GuestYank, when one considers the Independent Counsel that did it was appointed by the current Attorney General of the U. S. I would doubt that he could have done what he did without the express approval of the three judge panel that oversees the IC's work, and Janet Reno.

I, too, think the announcement could have waited at least until the Democratic National Convention was over.

However, as I understand it, the Special Counsel has a mandate that requries that he/she steer clear of political considerations. Isn't that correct?

Another way one could look at it, I guess, is it shouldn't affect Al Gore. He had nothing to do with those things being investigated. DougR

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: ol'troll
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 10:57 PM

Didn't Bill Clinton order the bombing of that aspirin factory in Africa just as a big story was about to break?But of course he would NEVER have done that to divert attention from his own problems. I love it how the Democrats whine when their own tactics are used against them.

However, DougR, I agree that they should have waited. After all, doing it now gives the Dems the chance to scream "dirty politics" whereas a wait of a few days might have deprived them of that defense.

I suppose that it's even possible that Clinton, Reno, et.al. could have planned to release it now so they could use the dirty politics defense. After all, it was going to come out sometime and the spin-meisters may have decided that now would ultimately do the LEAST amount of damage.

troll

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:04 PM

Hey come on, you can't accuse Republicans of "chicanery"! They don't use big words like that. They don't use the word "specious" either. (Ask Eric Bogle about that.) Charlton Heston never says "specious". They do use "unconscionable" sometimes though...so...hmmmm....well, there's an exception to every rule, I suppose. :-) !!!

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: MarkS
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:05 PM

Janet Reno was recently accused of treason by a Democratic representative from Ohio, with grounds owing to = well, read the papers on your own =. Perhaps this announcement from her Justice Department is to divert attention from her own troubles?

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:18 PM

Ol'troll: you are a breath of fresh air.

Little Hawk: You're right chicanery is not a part of the Republican vocabulary. Glad you recognize that. :>)

MarkS: I haven't seen that story, so I can't comment. I'm surprised if it came from a Democrat though.

By the way, Little Hawk, have you checked out the "Bitter Sugar" thread I posted? I haven't checked it yet.

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: Mickey191
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:24 PM

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 03:35 PM

I suppose by now everyone is disabused of the report (including this Thread) that the convening of the Grand Jury to look into the Clinton mess WAS NOT leaked by the Republicans, but was inadvertantly "leaked" by a federal judge appointed by President Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

I hope so, anyway.

DougR

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: Naemanson
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 04:48 PM

I'm continually surprised that anyone is surprised at anything that comes out of the political scene in any country!

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 07:02 PM

Naemanson - I'm not surprised that you're surprised. I am, however, surprised that you are not surprised by things that surprise people who remain unsurprised in the face of things that surprise my mechanic who is seldom surprised by anything.

Do you follow me?

Are you indeed nae man's son? How did that happen? Was it immaculate conception?

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: kendall
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 09:37 PM

Anyone besides me remember the famous "Canuck" letter? Nixons dirty tricks dept. stole some of Senator Ed Muskies stationary and wrote a very inflamatory letter that was unfavorable to French Americans. That rat bastard at the Union Leader spred stories that Jane Muskie told dirty stories, and when Muskie went to confront him, the coward didnt have the balls to show his face. What appeared to be weeping was actually extreme anger. But, it worked. Ed played right into the hands of those dirty bastards. No man was ever more honorable than Ed Muskie, but, he went into the pig pen, and, he got dirty. That incident may have lost the election by the ignorant bastards who voted for the republicans that year.

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: raredance
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 10:00 PM

Sometimes incompetence trumps conspiracy. It is clear that Ken Starr did not want to be remembered as a special prosecutor totally obsessed with getting his victim, so when he left the position he selected a replacement who was even more obsessed. I also understand that grand juries have been convened to examine the latest rumors about Teapot Dome, the exact nature of Mrs Dimagio's vist to the White House, and whether President Lincoln may have illegally written the Gettysburg Address on the back of an envelope that contained campaign contributions.

rich r

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:11 AM

Funny, rich r

DougR

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:41 AM

Leaked by a Democrat! Yup. Even Democrats can be stupid once in a while.

Sandy (who are one)

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:48 AM

I can assure you, Sandy, based on what I've read, it wasn't leaked on purpose. It evidently just slipped out while the Judge was talking to a reporter.

The only reason I refreshed the thread was to caution that too often we take things for granted and don't wait to check the facts before we publicize them.

The White House folks did the same thing, of course. I assume they were a bit put out when the truth came out.

DougR

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: ol'troll
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 01:17 AM

Very refreshing Sandy.

All too often I am reminded of the story of the old farmer who was asked to support a candidate who was running on the Republican ticket.

"Nope!" said the old man."I vote straight Democrat."

Exasperated, the campaign worked said."Why Jonas, I don't believe you would vote for Jesus Christ if he ran as a Republican."

"Dang right I wouldn't." came the reply. " He's got no business in politics!"

Some folks just can't be bothered to look beyond their predjudices. Glad you aren't one of them.

troll

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: GUEST,The Yank
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 05:03 PM

Point taken! :-) However, considering the record of the Special Prosecutors and their difficulties with 'unintentional" leaks throughout this whole sorry affair, it WAS the natural conclusion to draw.

...too often we take things for granted and don't wait to check the facts before we publicize them. This, I'll keep on file for future use....

Subject: RE: NO BS: Republican Chicanery
From: DougR
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 07:08 PM

To tell you the truth, GUEST Yank, I wouldn't have been surprised had it been leaked by some Republican flack. That seems to be the way of both parties these days. Just glad it wasn't.

DougR