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The Woods 2000

black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 09:02 AM
Morticia 21 Aug 00 - 09:09 AM
sophocleese 21 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM
Tony Burns 21 Aug 00 - 09:19 AM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 09:31 AM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 09:32 AM
Crowhugger 21 Aug 00 - 10:01 AM
Alice 21 Aug 00 - 10:18 AM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 10:22 AM
GUEST,JeffM 21 Aug 00 - 12:11 PM
Catrin 21 Aug 00 - 01:03 PM
catspaw49 21 Aug 00 - 01:21 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 01:22 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 02:26 PM
Morticia 21 Aug 00 - 02:44 PM
Catrin 21 Aug 00 - 03:46 PM
Lonesome EJ 21 Aug 00 - 03:47 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 04:46 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 05:05 PM
GUEST,jhcole 21 Aug 00 - 05:10 PM
Rana who SHOULD be working 21 Aug 00 - 05:40 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 06:01 PM
Ebbie 21 Aug 00 - 06:40 PM
black walnut 21 Aug 00 - 07:39 PM
GUEST,Bouzouki Bob 21 Aug 00 - 09:29 PM
Jason LaPrade 22 Aug 00 - 11:10 AM
GUEST,JeffM 22 Aug 00 - 11:18 AM
Willie-O 22 Aug 00 - 08:23 PM
black walnut 23 Aug 00 - 02:20 PM
black walnut 24 Aug 00 - 08:02 AM
Faded Denim 24 Aug 00 - 09:57 PM
Jason LaPrade 24 Aug 00 - 10:55 PM
Rana 24 Aug 00 - 11:42 PM
black walnut 25 Aug 00 - 12:59 PM
black walnut 27 Aug 00 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,Patootie 27 Aug 00 - 01:36 PM
Little Neophyte 27 Aug 00 - 03:35 PM
Faded Denim 28 Aug 00 - 09:32 AM
Faded Denim 28 Aug 00 - 09:35 AM
JeffM 28 Aug 00 - 10:18 AM
Davey 28 Aug 00 - 10:45 AM
JeffM 28 Aug 00 - 11:32 AM
Tony Burns 28 Aug 00 - 01:19 PM
JeffM 28 Aug 00 - 01:25 PM
Faded Denim 28 Aug 00 - 01:50 PM
Tony Burns 28 Aug 00 - 01:58 PM
Faded Denim 28 Aug 00 - 02:02 PM
Tony Burns 28 Aug 00 - 02:16 PM
JeffM 28 Aug 00 - 02:29 PM
Little Neophyte 28 Aug 00 - 03:14 PM
JeffM 28 Aug 00 - 03:30 PM
Davey 28 Aug 00 - 05:19 PM
Little Neophyte 28 Aug 00 - 09:53 PM
Tony Burns 28 Aug 00 - 09:56 PM
MichaelM 28 Aug 00 - 10:04 PM
Jason LaPrade 29 Aug 00 - 09:07 AM
JeffM 29 Aug 00 - 10:04 AM
Davey 29 Aug 00 - 10:37 AM
Tony Burns 29 Aug 00 - 11:14 AM
Faded Denim 29 Aug 00 - 11:47 AM
Froggie (inactive) 29 Aug 00 - 05:03 PM
JeffM 31 Aug 00 - 11:30 AM
GUEST,Latecomer Aida 31 Aug 00 - 04:09 PM
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GUEST,Bouzouki Bob 31 Aug 00 - 10:07 PM
Little Neophyte 01 Sep 00 - 07:15 AM
JeffM 01 Sep 00 - 09:45 AM
Rick Fielding 01 Sep 00 - 10:06 AM
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Subject: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:02 AM

peggy seeger.

6 days and 5 nights with peggy seeger and about 80 other remarkable women and men. surrounded by lake, rocks, flowers, trees, full moon, looncalls....

only just arrived home yesterday evening.

i have just spent amost a week with peggy seeger. ballad classes. songwriting classes. feminism in folk music classes. concerts. dancing. laughing. stories. admiring that beautiful face that inspired the song, "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face". what eyes. what a smile. what strength. and that special intimate breakfast conversation the two of us shared, oblivious to the clatter and chatter around us.

peggy told me that she LOVED my dulcimer playing. it doesn't get much better than that....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Morticia
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:09 AM

Wow, that's wonderful BW.....bet you're still flying, aren't you?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: sophocleese
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM

Envy...Envy...Envy...AARGH!

Sounds excellent black walnut. Glad you had a great time and I'm looking forward to hearing from others about the week.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:19 AM

Sheesh! I was there all week too and all 'nut can talk about is Peggy Seeger. :-)

P.S. It was the best Woods Camp so far.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:31 AM

tony,

P.S. stand for Peggy Seeger.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:32 AM

standS.

i'm not awake.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Crowhugger
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 10:01 AM

'nut,

That's pretty much how Mom summed it up. Plus something about the deeply poignant thrill of singing with so many people who love to harmonize...Quite a hectic pace to fit so much into 5 days...The time of her life...

...you get the idea...

CH.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Alice
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 10:18 AM

awesome. thanks for telling us about it. I have an old songbook for children by Ruth Crawford Seeger. Any discussion about folksongs in public schools today?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 10:22 AM

bodran tony, i send you yet another hug, my dear friend. and crowhugger's mom, in every one of her smiles is another dance. there were a few other 'catters there, too, sophocleese. i assume they're still in bed.

i'm certain banjo bonnie would have something to add, but she's bobbing around in a canoe somewhere for the next few days, smiling and laughing and remembering....

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,JeffM
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:11 PM

A general outline of a day at the Woods (as written through a blinding fog of fatigue):

* Wake up (with difficulty). * Feeble attempt at personal hygiene. * Eat (while trying to communicate with others through mono-syllabic grunts). * Classes with staff (professional musicians with incredible talents and insights) in your personal area of endeavor. These last all week. * Eat again. (Language capabilities have improved slightly.) * Schlep tables. * Community time: excellent gathering of entire camp to sing, discuss, and laugh about various topics. Redefines 'group hug'. * Schlep tables. * Workshops (similar to classes, but normally a one-time event). Topics are quite eclectic. All are incredibly interesting, and are often accompanied by much laughter and frivolity. * Free time (swimming, canoeing, practicing, jamming, sleeping, first approaches to beer fridge) * Dinner. * Schlep tables. * Camper's performances; a chance for campers to strut their stuff for others. (Note to future hosts: You will have to endure massive amounts of abuse if you attempt to bring just a LITTLE BIT OF JOY to the lives of others through quality humour and interesting points of information.) * Staff performances (always excellent). * Dancing. (Disco has been replaced by the square and step varieties.) * Song circle and jamming (The remaining zombies at 2AM make the best music). * Raiding of kitchen (eating from vats of peanut butter with your hands). * Token amount of sleep. * The cycle is repeated.

I can't wait until next year!!!


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Catrin
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 01:03 PM

This sounds amazing - where was it? how much did it cost? when's the next one?.......

Catrin


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 01:21 PM

Well what a time!!! I love reading these kind of reports.....so graphic that I get excited and tired at the same time. Sounds wonderful group.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 01:22 PM

catrin, http://www.mgl.ca/~jhcole/thewoods/thewoods.html has information and pictures.

jeffm (my dear friend and talented music partner), good list.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 02:26 PM

permit me one more gush....

peggy wrote on my cd liner, "For a new friend, Debbie".

that's me, my name is debbie.

(maybe she says that to everybody? please say no.)

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Morticia
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 02:44 PM

one more gush? I'd have filled 100 threads by now.....I think you've been really restrained.....it sounds wonderful.....shame it's so far away.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Catrin
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 03:46 PM

Black Walnut - I do know how you feel.

I saw Peggy Seeger a couple of years ago at a concert and was introduced to her by a mutual friend. When the show finished she kissed me on the cheek. I'll swear it was quite a while before I washed my face!

But unlike you, I didn't get to spend a whole week! Singing!

Well done that girl.

Catrin

P.S. Thanks for the website - it looks great but probably travelling expenses etc. make it a bit of an impossibility.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 03:47 PM

Sorry Walnut. I saw Peggy having breakfast at a Denny's and she wrote the same thing on my napkin- "For a new friend,Debbie". I've always been baffled about it 'til now.:>}

But seriously...sounds like the experience of a lifetime,'nut! Congratulations.

LEJ


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 04:46 PM

peggy seeger is my 'thought for the day'. tomorrow, i'll tell you about rick fines. no i won't. i won't be here. maybe wednesday.

oh, did i mention that PEGGY HUGGED ME good-bye? did i? huh? did i?

~'nut (who just took in 6 films for processing. 1 Woods, 6 films. i wonder how many i took of peggy seeger....)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 05:05 PM

alice....no, there wasn't anything on that topic. and very little mentioned about any of the other seegers.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,jhcole
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 05:10 PM

Wow - so many postings and it's only 24 hours later!! Don't you people sleep? Oh, that's right - most of us don't!! :-)

Yeah, it was more than incredible. I'm taking hilites for the next Old Chestnuts newsletter (hint). For me it was Tom Leighton and Mark Haines and rhythm class and singing Terry Tufts music in 4 part harmony and watching 2 fiddles, accordion and guitar at light speed from 5 feet away (Christina Smith, Mark, Tom and Jean Hewson). And can you imagine 80 folkies doing the Time Warp? Me either - but we did........

Find a way to come. The Woods changes lives........ (of course, maybe you already LIKE your life.......)

jc


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Rana who SHOULD be working
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 05:40 PM

'Nut,

Are you going to ask Mariposa if you can MC the night Mariposa present Peggy Seeger at the Cloud on October 22?

Rana


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 06:01 PM

lord help me, rana...my birthday is october 23. who do i ask? name, number, SIN.... please and thank you!!

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 06:40 PM

That Peggy Seeger is a marvel. On her, the constant travel and strain of being on the road looks great. Not to take ANYTHING away from you, black walnut, I think it's because she does make these connections with individuals. She is so present when she's talking with someone that it doesn't wear her out.

When I complimented her on the gown she was wearing- a flowing, multi-tiered sea-foam-green ankle-length dress- she responded by swooping one of the tiers up and hooding her face Madonna-style. Totally charming.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 07:39 PM

real nice, ebbie. you're spot on.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,Bouzouki Bob
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:29 PM

For me, this was the first Woods, and what a thrill it was.My personal heighlight was Haines & Leighton. Mark has such a good voice, and everything is delivered with a great sense of humor. (remember "I'm gonna be a D.J."? I can't remember when I last laughed so hard!)Tom puts his whole body into his music, it is a real treat to watch him preform. A very close second was the concert by Rick Fines. His guitar style was incredible! When any of these three preformers showed up in the "log jam" building, there was magic in the air.I have So many good memories of jamming, meeting new people,and listening to great music. Hats off to Grit And his team for organizing such a superb event.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Jason LaPrade
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 11:10 AM

My personal favourite highlight was a workshop called writing the blues by Rick Fines. It's unfortunate that it was such a small class (or maybe that's what was special about it). The few people who were there, got many personal insights into Rick that even some of his close friends might not know. It gave me new insights into many of his songs that I've listened to for years.

Doing sound was certainly another highlight (I guess that's why I do it). In particular, Jean and Christina's sound check and performance just fell into place. They're so much fun to work with.

And Jeff -- the zombies after midnight do make the best music! To be asked to play a solo by both Mark and Rick made me feel like a real musician :>)

And as for Tom Leighton, I don't think I've met a more warm and generous (and don't forget hillarious) musician.

Jason.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,JeffM
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 11:18 AM

Well, Jason, you deserved to be asked. Your playing is excellent. And maybe we should jam in the gym from now on.

(By the way, I said after 2AM. Midnight is still early.)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Willie-O
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 08:23 PM

Say, I've never been to The Woods (although i just came out of the woods), but that is a great crew. I've seen Rick Fines perform several times post-Delta, he is one of the best acoustic guitarists in this country, but I always think of him as Matt's younger brother...

I saw Crow's mom today at work (Canadian Tire), looking for a CD rack (she must have bought a lot of them last week?)

Tom and Mark are great to work with too. Tom's the choir director at Blue Skies, and Mark is one of the best bandleaders around--the year he was lead fiddle in the Blue Skies squaredance band, we were much more coherent than usual. He is a master at the underappreciated art of onstage communication, can have you sounding like you actually practiced together. (The square dance band never practices, its a pickup band of whoever's on site)

Willie-O


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 02:20 PM

moving on from peggy seeger....
a few other thoughts.

RICK FINES: 'the Benoit of Blues'. most women will know what i mean....
i love blues, and i have known and loved rick's blues for several years. it was great to have him at the woods, and, considering the vast number of hugs we shared up there, i don't think it's out of line to say he's a new true friend.

MARK HAINES: who needs The Zippers? mark is a stellar talent on his own (and with tom). mark and i had a couple memorable conversations under the stars, thinking aloud about the preservation of precious memories. i was thrilled to be a co-student with mark in peggy's songwriting class....he added so, so much.

TOM LEIGHTON: ditto about The Zippers. tom makes nuclear energy look like the first version of the mousetrap. tom's choir direction took me back in time to when i used to teach high school choir and bands. what great leadership, tom! i was privileged to get an 11:00-11:45pm piano lesson from tom. every time i lost my concentration, he strictly got me back on track! the lesson ended with tom giving me homework, and the direction to check back when i'd learned the lesson. i had to apologize to him for spending the rest of the woods playing my other instruments, and not getting to the keyboard.

ELDON COOPER: i didn't take any classes from eldon, but we crossed paths on occasion, and vowed to spend more time sharing music together in the future. i was wowed by the contributions he made to our song circles. nice talk after DADGAD class, too.

CHRISTINA SMITH: christina and i were students at the same time, at the university of western ontario, more years ago than i care to divulge. her cd, "Fiddle Me This", is one of my favourites. she is a blazingly talented cellist. and very wonderful person.

JEAN HEWSON: chrisina's music partner. and very wonderful person. she makes me think i've been to newfoundland and back. jean was in a room down the hall, and she and i had our best conversations between showers. i supplied 'Jean Silverfish' with her new spiritual name. gives you a bit of an idea about state of the showers, doesn't it??

The Woods. every year is the best, and this was the best of them all.....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 08:02 AM

today's entry.

LYDIA AND JASON: i feel that lydia and jason deserve a separate day of glory. these two are the best sound people i have ever known. the problem is that it's far too easy to take them for granted. they humbly and quietly go about the business of making perfect, dependable sound for daily evening concerts, dance band, and the final day's camper's concert. never a grumble, never a complaint. they deal with every imaginable quick change and manage to deliver wonderful sound for every permutation. thank you so much, both of you. excellent job!

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 09:57 PM

Wow!! Is it ever good to see so many of us "Woodsters" on the CatCafe! And I echo all of the above comments too. I feel happier at "The Woods" than just about any other time during the year. I call it musical and friendly intimacy. Mandolyn classes with Mark H. and voice classes with Jeanie were just oustanding. And I love the jams- just as much as Jack and Jeff.

BTW Jeff - thanks for looking after performers circle - and I know your humour is really just a clever way to make the performers look better! :o)

Am looking forward to seeing Jean and Christina again on Nov.11 at Acoustic Harvest. Were hoping "Full Circle" will be able to open for them.

When I'm up I can't get down!

Reid


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Jason LaPrade
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 10:55 PM

Thanks for the kind words Debbie. It's pretty easy to make things sound good when you're working with such great performers. Things don't always run smooth but we try our best. Overall we were happy with the way things turned out.

By the way, have you ever known any other sound people?

Jason.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Rana
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 11:42 PM

Jason (and Lydia),

You're too modest (as are all the other sound people I've been lucky to meet and who you know).

Glad you both had a good time at the Woods - sounds like it was good.

Rana


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 12:59 PM

black walnut's final installment.....

THE FOUR (top of the ladder) ORGANIZERS: i've been at the woods 7 times in a row now. each time, the Woods was organized by a committee comprised of EVE GOLDBERG, SUE GOLDBERG, JUDITH LASKIN and GRIT LASKIN. together, this foursome brings enthusiasm, skill, talent, warmth, experience, thoughtfulness, commitment, quality, hard hard work involving long hours, and above all, a deep sense of vision, to the Woods. the reason so many of us rave about our Woods experience(s) is that it is not only a consistently excellent teaching and performance time, but that it is equally a place set apart for its 'intentional community'. the organizers have made provision so that throughout the week, be it in the daily community circle, or meal-times, or campfire, or party night...there be structured ways to ensure that all the campers have a few times and places to meet all together, as opposed to always in small groups. there is a sense of equality amongst us whether we come to the woods primarily as performer, amateur or audience, and this equality is nutured, not left to chance. thank you, so much, to eve, sue, judith and grit, for everything....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 08:18 AM

P.S.:

well, i've had a couple of people tell me i went a little overboard with 'peggy-seeger-hero-worship' on the mudcat this week. of course, they're right. interestingly, i didn't feel star-struck when i was actually up at the Woods. i wasn't even planning to necessarily take any classes from peggy ~ they just sort of fell into place. it wasn't until the Woods was over that i realized how much time i'd spent around her up there, and how much she'd impacted my learning, and how special 'once-in-a-lifetime' it was to be able to be one of her students for a few days. so i, er, kvelled (is that the correct use of the word?).

the Woods has been over for about a week now. and for a week many of us have been publicly and privately sharing our memories of experiences which seem to have come and gone in a blink of an eye. some of us are still flying high, some of us are feeling wistfully empty....all of us know that we were once again part of a remarkable time.

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,Patootie
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 01:36 PM

Thanks to Debbie for her kind comments about the organizing committee. The Woods is definitely a labour of love for us, your faithful organizing committee. But it's all worth it when we see the magic that happens every year.

It's nice to see everyone else had a good time too!

Eve Goldberg


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 03:35 PM

What Bonnie got from The Woods..........
What I got from The Woods was the spirit of good people. I felt welcomed with open arms.
The people there were so good to me.
Black Walnut kept an eye out for me making sure I felt comfortable amongst so many new faces. Offering me warm hugs, advice and friendship.
Jason would wisper to me what key we were in during jam sessions. He explained the dynamics of jamming and was my personal interpreter when I had no clue what was going on.
Tony Burns was my security blanket. I kind of sewed myself to his hip. At the end of camp, Tony and I performed a tune together for the other campers. His drumming skills will draw you into that primal centering core where all kinds of healing takes place.
Jeff Morrison's support and encouragement built up my confidence to perform my first song circle tune Shady Grove. I had the fortune of receiving his banjo accompaniment. Jeff has a natural gift when it comes to accompaning other musicians and making them sound great.
Faded Denim made me realize that my voice was worth sharing.

What I got most from The Woods was the validation of what an amazing teacher I have. I receive many compliments on my approach to the banjo and on my instructor. Thank you very much Mr. Rick Fielding.

And thank you Eve, Sue, Grit and Judith for bringing such a magical moment into my life

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:32 AM

Hey Banjo Bonnie, The pleasure of hearing you play and sing and watching the happiness in your face your first time at the Woods was well worth the price of admission. You have some real natural talent and enthusiasm. (BTW I'm maybe just a little bit jealous of your opportunity of instruction from Rick Fielding .... I love his voice and admire his work!) Did some mandolin/fiddle jamming this weekend - I figure another 25 years and I might actually become a reasonably competent mandolin player!! :o)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:35 AM

Hey Banjo Bonnie, The pleasure of hearing you play and sing and watching the happiness in your face your first time at the Woods was well worth the price of admission. You have some real natural talent and enthusiasm. (BTW I'm maybe just a little bit jealous of your opportunity of instruction from Rick Fielding .... I love his voice and admire his work!) Did some mandolin/fiddle jamming this weekend - I figure another 25 years and I might actually become a reasonably competent mandolin player!! :o)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 10:18 AM

Hey, faded .... you can say that again. (But then you'd be redundant redundant.)

What's the matter? 12 strings not enough for you?

I'm glad you figured out my ploy on the humour thing. You're absolutely correct. Guaranteed to make anybody sound good.

And thank you for being my Neil Young buddy. Looks like you and I dragged everyone kicking and screaming into the 70's!


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Davey
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 10:45 AM

I'm just back at work today, and back from the cottage where Judy and I spent the week just relaxing, recalling the good memories from that wonderful week, and of course, playing music.

I echo all the sentiments above about the Staff, the sound crew, and the Woods Committee. It was probably the most high-energy and musically fulfilling Woods I can remember (and it was my 15th).

NOTE TO THOSE AFTER MIDNIGHT JAMMERS.. The jam sessions are not finished until next year's Woods, we will find a way to continue them from time to time.
'Nut, you'd be a natural for introducing Peggy at Mariposa. Bonnie, it was wonderful watching you find your niche at the Woods, and hearin your original banjo composition. Your lessons must be very rewarding with such a good teacher.. Jason, and Lydia, you are too modest. Fine musicians, great people to jam with, and the best sound crew I've ever seen. We are fortunate to have you at Acoustic Harvest.

I can't commend or thank all the other fine people whose influence made the woods such a 'high' as I would be going on for pages and pages. Just let me say, to all those i jammed with, to all those I sang with, to all those I took classes with, to those whose presence touched me in so many ways, THANKS...

Davey... (:>)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 11:32 AM

Davey,

These jams have definitely added a new dimension to the Woods. (If I'm not mistaken, this is something we started a few years ago to give non-dancers something to do.) If we could find a way to continue these in the city, it would be wonderful. Of course, we'd have to rent a soundproof studio or underground bomb shelter, with volume levels being somewhat higher than song circles. Let's explore the possibilities.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:19 PM

Jam at Jeff's house every Saturday at 8pm!


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:25 PM

Tony, are you kidding? I'd love it!

I'd have to check with THEM first.

I even have a full set of drums, electric guitar, bass, PA system and amps. If we're going to do it, let's do it right!


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:50 PM

JeffM, JeffM Sorry Sorry about about the the double double message message!! You're right about the Woods Jams (Held in the log cabin and affectionately known as the log-jam) each night for some variety from contra dancing and song circle. It was even announced this year as a nightly "event". I agree with you and Davey and TonyB that the jamming is so great and it would be fun to carry on the rest of the year. How about starting a once-a-month group (perhaps called the Greater Toronto Area Folk-Jam Rotation) set up in similar fashion to the song circles. Could really be a blast. I'd even be willing to host the first one in October. What do you think?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 01:58 PM

Faded, There's already the monthly jam in Greenbank. You, Don, Barb and Davey are the only Woodsies that have ever made it that far from Toronto.

Hang on,,, Crowhugger's Mom has been there too.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 02:02 PM

Tony, True enough, but I think friday nights might be more available for me rather than Sunday afternoons.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 02:16 PM

The problem with Friday night is the collision with Song Circle.

(Maybe the interested parties should take this discussion elsewhere.)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 02:29 PM


The Log Jammers


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 03:14 PM

Can I be a Log Jammer too?
If there is going to be a discussion about this would you guys please let me know where.
Jeff how come there is no twirling banjo?

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 03:30 PM

How's this for our logo?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Davey
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 05:19 PM

That's really cute, Jeff... A wonderfullogo for the log-jammers, and some good likenesses there, too.

I agree with Tony, however, that Friday night would not be good as it would conflict with song circle, and I have a commitment to that, as do many others.

I also will be attending the Greenbank jams once a month, but after the Woods experience I want MORE, MORE, MORE.

If we can find a suitable place or places, and agree on a convenient time, I think it's an excellent idea. I have hosted song circles and other music gatherings, but as I live in a semi-detached house the thought of a jam session going into the wee hours would not be a good thing for me to contemplate.

Don't think it should be restricted only to the Woods jammers, either, but should be a vehicle for both our enjoyment and an introduction for newcomers into the etiquette of playing with others.

Tony, you mentioned using another forum for this discussion. Do you have any ideas?

Davey... (:>)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:53 PM

I love the logo Jeff. We could all wear overalls and have it monogrammed on the bib.
I'd offer up my place but being in an apartment, my neighbours have been very tolerant with my banjo playing but I think a gang of us would hit their limits.

I'll bake yummies for the gathering. As a Baby Log Jammer I has to find ways to compensate somehow.

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:56 PM

I've put some Woods 2000 pictures here.

See if you can spot the Mudders.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: MichaelM
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 10:04 PM

Jeff & Co. I have to grab hold of the Woods history before it leaves the dock. I'm claiming parentage of the jam session. I had wanted for years to start an alternative to the evening dance. (I can dance but don't because I just don't enjoy it.) Pinewoods had an acoustic song swap for non-dancers that I thought might prove popular. When Linda & I helped run the Woods the year that Grit and Judith had an emergency I proposed to the committee that we start up a non-dancer activity in the log cabin; song swap or acoustic jam. The committee was against splitting the campers during an all-community event. I quietly pushed a couple of the movers and shakers among the campers to start something up in the log cabin without it being Woods endorsed. And, finally, here we are.

Michael Miland

(P.S. That was also the year we started the performer's circle. Ah, snowshoe memories!)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Jason LaPrade
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 09:07 AM

Hi Dave and Bonnie. Welcome Back! I hope the rest of your vacations were rewarding.

I'm all for the jamming idea. I propose we go back up to Lake Rosseau with the proper moving equipment and transport the log cabin back to Toronto. Failing that idea, I'm sure Lydia would gladly offer the use of her house (she was thinking of doing it for song circle anyway). As a musician/songwriter/live sound engineer I can't afford to buy a house for the jam, and here I am offering someone else's without permission. I'll talk to her about it. As for a day, what about Saturday evening. As long as it doesn't conflict with Acoustic Harvest.

Tony, I'd like details on the jam in Greenbank.

Jeff, If Bonnie gets a twirling banjo, I want a twirling dobro.

Bonnie, I'm looking forward to trying your baked goods.

Michael, thanks for whatever part you played in starting the log jam. It's definitely my favourite part of The Woods.

Jason.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:04 AM

Michael,

Like Moses watching the children of Israel entering the holy land without him. The walls of Jamming have come tumbling down. You lead us through 40 days and 40 nights of heathen dancing, parted the Rosseau Sea, and brought us forth unto the land of music and hootenanny. Yeah, though we walked through the shadow of the valley of community activities, you, the man of many Laskins, have allowed your children to be folky and multi instrument players. We shall have no false chords before us.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Davey
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:37 AM

Jason, and anyone else who is interested in the jam idea, there is now a separate discussion taking place by email. Please contact Tony and ask to get put on the list.

Davey... (:>)


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Tony Burns
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 11:14 AM

Here's where you find information on the Greenbank Jams. If you add yourself to the Greenbank mailing list you will get a reminder each month.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Faded Denim
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 11:47 AM

Michael - thanks for the history - important beginnings. Jeff - Praise the Lord and pass the FERTILIZER! What a great thread this is. Love your logo's Jeff and I think Banjo Bonnie has the right idea. I also like Jason's idea about bringing the Log Cabin HERE!! If we call ouselves Log Jammers, then the Log Driver's Waltz could be our theme song. I've put in my 2 cents worth on the e-mail discussion group. Let me know your further thoughts.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Froggie (inactive)
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 05:03 PM

Hi everyone!

Hey, I'd love to volunteer my house for a Log Cabin jam. Just let me check with Jason to make sure he hasn't already volunteered it out to a bunch of Mudcatters....

Cost for use of my abode will be one twirling fiddle...

Bonnie, treats are welcome as long as recipes are included (please?).

Alright people, pick a night, day, evening, afternoon, etc... but please give Jason and I ample warning so we can clean up and chase away the dust elephants.

LydiaB


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 11:30 AM

Well, Lydia, I don't know about the twirling fiddle, but I might be able to conjure up a whirling dervish or a Tazmanian Devil? Either way, I'll be your spin doctor, if I can get around to it by some twist of fate or turn of events.

Dust elephants? You mean they will be truncated?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,Latecomer Aida
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 04:09 PM

Sorry, I'm adding my two cents worth so late; don't mean to reopen the thread - but what a great thread!- and I echo everyone's sentiments. The Woods is one truly amazing experience. My mind often doesn't work for me like I want it to or feel it should, so sometimes I'm slow.....I don't always take advantage of all that's offered at The Woods and miss out on alot due to my simplicity/stupidity (those that know me will know what I mean). However, I want to belatedly thank Eve, Sue, Grit & Judith for their dedication and committment; enthusiasm and vision, for everything they do to make The Woods a top-knotch experience; we're truly blessed to have such a remarkable committee who brings us all those remarkable musicians. And I want to thank black walnut, Tony, JeffM, Lydia & Jason, Faded Denim, Banjo Bonnie, Davey, Jack, Linda & Michael and all the new campers I met who supported me and made this Woods so much fun. And the Logjammers idea....Hey, I'm all for it!! What'll I jam with??!! My voice?! Anytime you would like to use my home, I will gladly host (Sat. night preferred if it doesn't conflict with Acoustic Harvest). Lillian Wauthier


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: balladeer
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:38 PM

Hi everyone; I've been following the thread along and now feel impelled to add my two cents. A wonderful Woods. A very supportive group all around. Teachers with great talents and great teaching skills who made their presence felt everywhere. Add my naame to that Saturday night jamming list....


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: GUEST,Bouzouki Bob
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:07 PM

Can anyone explain why this thread was off-line yesterday? I looked for it several times, but could not find it.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 07:15 AM

Lydia all my cookies come with the recipe. Did you ever watch the Flintstones where Betty left out the secret ingredient in her recipe for Stegosaurus burgers (I think it was the mustard) and it started a big fight between her and Wilma?
I would never do that.

As for dust elephants, I hired the Tazmanian Devil to be my house cleaner. He looks so cute in a maid's outfit. Give him a damp rag and within a few spins my place is spotless except for all those loose hairs that fly off him.

Banjo Bunny


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: JeffM
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:45 AM

Bob, I think if the thread is not updated for a couple of days, it drops off the main list. Bookmark this page in your browser if you want to come back to it.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 10:06 AM

Just for those who might not know. Several years ago I had become totally disgusted with the music business...every aspect, from dealing with agents, to playing for (high class) drunks in supposedly posh hotels, working paycheck to paycheck (I couldn't save a dime even though I was making good bucks) and in general, feeling that my music had no value other than in a "job" sense.

Judith Laskin heard me on a CBC radio show, and Grit hired me to play and teach at "The Woods". During those four days my life changed 360 degrees. I met so many wonderful people who LOVED folk music as much as I did, and all my teenage enthusiasm came back like a tidal wave! I met Sandy and Caroline Paton who asked me to sign with Folk-Legacy Records, and started my regular touring jaunts to New England. The last 8 years of my life have been so rewarding, I don't really have the words to describe it.

Thank you "Woods"!

Rick


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Jason LaPrade
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 10:11 PM

I think I speak for everyone here when I say we're glad you're still making music, Rick.

By the way, I think it's about time for your return visit to The Woods. Are Judith, Grit, Sue or Eve listening?

Jason.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 03:42 PM

i disappear for just six days, and the whole toronto folk scene mutates!

if this means hearing more of lydia's fiddle, i'm in....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: balladeer
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 11:11 PM

Welcome home Walnut.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: Ferrara
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:29 PM

Alice, I also have a songbook for children by Ruth Crawford Seeger. The co-op school where the songs were put in practice was in Silver Spring, MD, near my home. I was so pleased to see a dedication to Glenora Horne, one of the moms who helped make the music happen.

Glenora's daughter was my roommate in college for a while, and my mother and Glenora became close friends. When I told her I was learning to play folk guitar (around 1966), she said, "that's lovely, dear. My sister and I used to play guitar and give folk music concerts [I think she said it was in the 20's, maybe not]. I have a dulcimer made by Howie Mitchell, he's a dear friend of mine." I had no idea.

Just a reminiscence. Probably doesn't belong here but what the hey.

Any discussion about folksongs in public schools today?


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:29 PM

thanks, balladeer....

i just got back from a few days on an island in georgian bay; no electricity, no telephone, no computer....also no harp, no guitar, no dulcimer, no piano. my tin whistles were allowed into the precious boat-packing space, but it wasn't often that i felt like breaking the quiet air with that kind of sound. sometimes i would sing as i walked around the island, but i was careful not to disturb the resident blue heron, loons, mallard ducklings....

The Woods seems as though it happened a long long time ago, come and gone so quickly, like a flash of lightning, remembered mostly in haunting feelings and already-fading memories. i had coffee with tony yesterday evening; we were the only customers in the Second Cup, and looking over each others' Woods photos, we chatted, and laughed, and we remembered it all over again, together. it helped make it seem 'real' again.

jean and i are still wondering why, with all those hours together at The Woods, we never did get that dulcimer duo thing happening like we'd planned. and all those other ideas, plans, possibilities that never hatched.....i guess that's what next year is for.

meanwhile, some of us are fortunate to be living near other folkies, so during the year we can go to song circles, jams, and concerts. it's when we're sharing the music with others that the songs and the tunes really sparkle.....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: balladeer
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 10:52 PM

So can I rescue this thread from oblivion? If I succeed I want to thank you all work helping to make the Woods fun.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: balladeer
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:24 PM

So, can I rescue this thread from oblivion? If I succeed, I want to thank you all for helping to make the Woods fun.


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Subject: RE: The Woods 2000
From: black walnut
Date: 06 Sep 00 - 09:49 AM

a double rescue, balladeer. well done!

~'nut


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