Waves of Tory

Subject: Waves of Tory
From: Herge
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:15 PM

What tunes are normally played for this dance and the Seige of Venice? Herge

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:29 PM

Not a clue, but are you relelated to the Herge of Tintin fame?

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Herge
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:40 PM

No

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Bagpuss
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:40 PM

I'm not sure what tune would be played, offhand, but its the Seige of Ennis, not Venice.

Bagpuss

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 04:43 PM

Good rousing marches for the waves of Tory, Herge (we always included 'A Nation Once Again' which has everyone striding out and singing along).
Either jigs orreels can be played for the Siege of Ennis, whichever you've not played so much of that night, as both work equally well.

Would the Siege of Venice look more like synchronised swimming? Don't worry, Herge, you're not the first to have called it that! :0)Good luck with the ceili.

Noreen

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 04:53 PM

jig for the advance, retire, cross over sequence of the Waves of Tory, marches for the waves. One local band does a jig of Lillibullero and plays the Sash and We'll Guard Old Derry's Walls as well as A Nation Once Again for the marches, with the Internationale for the finale!

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 05:02 PM

Well that should keep everyone happy, Philippa- do they sing all the words, too?! :0)

Noreen

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 07:52 PM

There actual tunes titled Waves of Tory and Siege of Ennis (both great tunes) and of course lots more that are used during the two sets. My memory isn't good enough but I'm sure that if Bob Bolton reads this he can give you chapter and verse straight off the top of his head.

I rate the Siege of Ennis as the best of the huge audience dances there is if you have a large crowd and a mix of age groups.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 09:23 PM

Philippa, the first band to try that one and get away with it was the "Ard R¡ Reunion". I thought up the idea during the 300th celebrations of the Williamite Wars in 1989/90 and we played the tunes you mentioned - and more-. Not once did we get a negative reaction. Says something about one side of the house.
Annraoi

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Branwen23
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 09:27 PM

Siege of Venice, Siege of Ennis, Sea of Guinness....

call it whatever you want...

*grin*
-Branwen

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 08:46 AM

G'day Herge,

Here in Australia we play a reel tune we refer to as Waves of Tory (and I'm sure I have seen it refered to in Irish somewhere as something like "Torrai Tornai"). It is also called Grand Old Dame Brittania because the Irish sang a (less than complimentary) song of that name to this tune.

Apparently it is also known in England as Leather Away the Wattle - O. I can't give any source other than the version we play comes from a Sydney concertina player, Jamie Carlin, of a northern Irish family background.

We also have a named reel tune for Siege of Ennis and a popular set combines that with Nancy, Rattling Bog and Kerry Polka. Local practice comes out of inherited tuners from a lot of Irish musicians over the years.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 03:55 PM

Bob, Tonna¡ Thora¡ does mean the Waves of Tory. The waters near Tory are indeed rough.
Annraoi, great minds think alike. I think Ceol na Ri (Paddy O Mian in, Brendan Saunders, Jim Canning) was playing the marches before 1989, but added Lillibulleroo to the repetoire more recently.

Subject: RE: Waves of Tory
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:48 PM

Thanks Philippa,

I knew I had seen the name but could not put my hand to it ... and I don't speak Gaelic. I think the version I saw may have varied a little in spelling (or transliteration) but that is definitely the gist of it.

If anyone wants to hear them, I could post a MIDIText version of each of the tunes, but I'm fairly sure you can identify them from standard texts.

Regards,

Bob Bolton