Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl

Subject: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Alice
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 11:16 PM

Here is a site on the Bronze Age Horns of ancient Ireland, Scotland, and England.

Bronze Age Horns

quote "Of all the Bronze Age instruments that survive in the world, Ireland with it's 104 horns and 48 bells has by far the largest amount, representing more than half the total. Today these unique instruments have been seriously studied and are being manufactured and played in Ireland once again."

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 11:23 PM

Great site Alice. Thanks.

Rick

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Marcus Campus Bellorum
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 11:25 PM

YES!

Thanks Alice.

It would be interesting to study the spread of the "didge technique" of playing hollophones (is that what they are?) around the planet. . .looking for the following:

1)Age of instruments, age of musical tradition/ethos? 2)Links between traditions? 3)Construction methods and links? 4)Application in present day?

It is interesting to note that the "didge blown" technique is not used in modern orchestras. Which is a big pity.

I have experiences some anti-didge technique in orhcestras and concert bands.

I once offered to play didge (instead of my usual job as kit drummer) in the Australian National Anthem at my university's graduation ceremony.

I was told that "didgeridoo is not an instrument". And as for repertoire?

Didge/horn players unite!!!

Any bronze age horn playing mudcatters?

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Alice
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 11:29 PM

On that site it says, "Irish bronze horns are by no means unique in the world of music, though they do belong to a particular wind instrument family. This is called the single cavity family. The essential feature is an open mouthpiece which allows the entire length of the instrument to resonate a note. Other members are animal horns from Africa, didgeridoo from Australia, wooden trumpets from the Amazon and various sea shells from around the world." ..."The larger end blow instruments from further South can be played in a manner very similar to the Australian didgeridoo. This involves using circular breathing and complex lip, mouth and upper body movements and pressures to vary tone and rhythm. Smaller side blow horns can be played intermittently as horn players from Africa do. Several notes can be produced using the hand in the bell and tones can be enhanced through mouth and voice control."

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Marcus Campus Bellorum
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 11:37 PM

It'd be a great idea for a CD (ie:single cavity family instruments from Planet Earth) Maybe even a single cavity orchestra.

Now that name has a ring to it. The Single Cavity Orchestra!!!!

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: hesperis
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 02:12 AM

Wow! Thanks, Alice!
I play French Horn, so bronze age horns sound like something pretty special to me!

Can anybody tell me how to circle-breathe?

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: GUEST,Yum Yum
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:57 AM

Great site Alice !!!Hesperis if you get a glass of water and a straw, practice blowing the straw while you breath through your nose. It's quite hard to begin with but it can be done. I have heard however that circular greathing is not good for you. Quite a lot of pipers (highland) use circular breathing when playing the practice chanter. Good luck. Yum Yum.

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 03:47 PM

John Purser of the Isle of Skye composes music incorporating a replica of a long metal horn found in a bog. It's called a carnyx. Kilmartin sessions Also John Kenny (recordings available)

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 04:30 PM

I can hear it now: "the Single Cavity Orchestra, presented by the American Dental Association!"

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Marcus Campus Bellorum
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 05:33 PM

The Carnyx sounds great but does not sound like it is played like a didgeridoo.

The larger Irish horns use the didge technique.

Does anyone know of any other regions of the globe where "single cavity instruments" are played?

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 06:13 PM

Just shows you, it's true: bionn adharca fada ar buaibh thar lear.

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 06:31 PM

above- the cattle across the sea have long horns. i.e. - the grass is greener... Name of song, same tune as Mrs McGrath
I left out the John Purser clickable link Kilmartin sessions

Subject: RE: Bronze Age Horns Ireland, Scotland, Engl
From: Brendy
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 06:47 PM

"Far away cows have longer horns"

;)

B.