Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round

Subject: Rose -- Campfire round
From:
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:19 AM

I was wondering about the song "Rose," which I've sung at Girl Scout camps for as far back as I can remember. I love finding all the different versions of camp song lyrics that I can, and I'm especially curious about this song. The extent of what I know is as follows:

Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose
Shall I ever see thee wed? (or red)
I will marry at thy will sire,
At thy will.

Ding, dong, ding, dong,
Wedding bells on an April morn
Carve your name in a moss-covered stone
In a moss-covered stone

(This one I'm not sure about, nor do I like it very much in keeping with the rest of the song -- I think a whole set of new verses was made for the song at one time, about various bible virtues; this is the only one I know)

Love, love, love, love
The bible (or gospel) teaches us to love
Love thy neighbor as thyself
Love, love, love.

HOWEVER, one time I heard somebody sing it differently, where the first verse was the same as the one above, but after that it changed. It went on to tell some story about a girl forced to marry, and maybe dying . . . I'm not sure. It was rather more dark and medieval than what I have here.

Has anybody heard this other version that could give me the lyrics? Or if anyone knows yet another set of lyrics to this song, I'd greatly appreciate anything you can offer.

~Anne.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 2-Sep-02.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:27 AM

Hi, Anne - we have several other threads on this song. Click here for the first one, and follow the links to the others. Don't know if the specific song you're looking for is there.
I like the tune - it's kind of haunting.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: GUEST,Anne Moffa
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:07 AM

Thanks so much! That was a wealth of information . . . awesome. For future reference, should I be hunting through the old threads before posting here? I'm not a member, so I'm not sure what the usual procedure is. Should I become a member? I don't know a lot of folk music, but I really like it, and your site is the best place for me to find things out. Would you prefer that people frequenting your site join up?

Thanks again -- ~Anne.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: MMario
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:53 AM

Anne - to many many questions you will find answers if you search the forum and/or Digital tradition. There are several way s to search. I would suggest reading the teal perma-thread at the top of the page, titled "MudCat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide" - there is a wealth of information in there about the 'Cat, 'Catters, how to do things on the 'cat and other things

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Kara
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:32 PM

I sometimes sing this round as a backing to Irishways and Laws( Christy Moore) the tunes are nearly the same and the effect is chilling.

Kara mmm nice

Subject: Lyr Add: IRISH WAYS & IRISH LAWS^^
From: MMario
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:01 PM

That would be this one?

IRISH WAYS & IRISH LAWS

Once upon a time there was,
Irish ways and Irish laws,
villages of Irish blood
waitin' for the morning,
waitin' for the mornin'

Then the Vikings came around,
turned us up and turned us down,
Started buildin' boats and towns,
they tried to change our living,
tried to change our living.

Cromwell and his soldiers came,
started centuries of shame
shot the farmers in their fields,
workin' for a living,
workin' for a living.

Again again the soldiers came,
burnt our houses stole our grain,
but they could not make us turn,
we are a river flowing,
we're a river flowing.

800 years we have been down,
the secret of the waters sound,
has kept the spirit of a man,
above the pain descending,
above the pain descending

Today the struggle carries on,
I wonder will I live so long,
to see the gates being opened up,
to a people and their freedom,
a people and their freedom

Repeat verse 1

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: karen k
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 04:02 PM

Another version I know is:

Row, row, row, row
Row your boat to Jesus' side
There forever to abide - Lord
At Thy side.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Kara
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 02:39 AM

to do the round with Irish way, you need to drop the repeted line , and the rose round I know has lyrics as follows

Rose rose rose rose
will I ever see thy red
I marry that I will
when thou art dead

Kara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 02:56 AM

Hi, Anne - we'd love to have you here, registrered or not. Registration is free, with no strings attached - we're just here for the fun of it. You can check on the benefits of membership in our FAQ/Newcomers' guide thread.

We try to stay away from rules, but I guess it's better to search first to see if there's an existing thread on your topic, and then to post your question on the existing thread (if there is one). That tends to help the discussions stick together, and that can make things a little more interesting.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Haruo
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 12:50 AM

Is there some reason why the sequence of posts in this thread has been Osterized®? I was confused when Joe addressed someone who had not (yet) posted, but then when I looked at the dates and times of posts I saw that the order was mostly but not entirely backwards...

Haruo

PS If this doesn't show up as the last (bottom) or last (top) post in the thread, it will be cause for concern

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 12:53 PM

The order of many thread posts were scrambled in the last crash.
It has caused me to read some threads from end to end for the first time.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: GUEST,Kate
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 10:29 PM

I know the other lyrics, well the ones I know. From camp Tahigwa

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rose -- Campfire round
From: GUEST,Kate
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 10:32 PM

(I just realized this is an old page, but oh well!)

Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose
Will I ever see thee wed?
I will marry at thy will sire,
At thy will.

I wont be my father's Jack,
I wont be my mother's Jill,
I will lead a fiddler's life
And fiddle at thy will.

Ding, dong, ding, dong,
Wedding bells on an April morn
Carve your name on a moss-covered stone
On a moss-covered stone

A poor bird,
Take thy flight,
High above the sorrows,
Of this sad night