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Subject: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 09:21 AM

I woke up this morning to the alarm and immediately turned over and clicked it off and went back to sleep.

I dreamed I was sitting at my computer on Mudcat, of course. There I saw a personel message for me. So, I clicked on it. It said 'Get the hell outta bed'!!

I woke up laughing and woke up Honey. He asked what's so damn funny at 6:30 in the morning. I told him the story and he made several remarks on my sanity.

I had to post this here because I had to tell someone and who else would understand how funny this was.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 09:35 AM

Hmmm. I dreamt someone took the box of tissues off my desk at work. I wasn't sure about it until I got here and it was in place. Good thing. I can be very territorial.

Help - last week I saw a strange "news" story on TV about a man who cloned a rabbit using DNA from a phosphorescent algae. The bunny glows under ultra violet light. Supposedly, he took it to France for a scientific conference and it was confiscated as a potential danger to the French ecosystem. (???) The man refused to show the animal live but had photos and a website. Now, here is my problem. No one else saw the story and my family thinks I dreamed it. I tend to have very vivid dreams and get them confused with reality but I am MUCH BETTER NOW. Has someone else seen this story. Does anyone have the website address? My therapist and I will be very grateful.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 09:46 AM

Wish I had, Sinsull. Sorry but I can dig the vividness of the dream. It happens to me too but there is always a clue in the dream that it just ain't so (At least in mine)But I have had a dream where I got up to check to insure the coffee pot was off and it was so vivid that i actually had to get up and check the coffee pot. You're more normal than you think. And Annamill that is a funny story! Kindest reguards, Neil


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 09:55 AM

There was an article on the fluorescent rabbit on the abcnews.com website a few days ago. Very strange. You might try a search on their Science section. Or possibly Technology. Good luck.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 09:59 AM

Annamill<
Did you get up or continue to play on the Mudcat? Thanks for the opportunity to air my dream. Bless you Jeff. I am not alone. If I find the website, I will pass it on to Aine. Has to be a Challenge there.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Giac
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:07 AM

I saw the story, too, sinsull. Maybe the French were afraid the creature would escape, mingle with locals and create a race of glow bunnies. I envisioned future times when hound dogs would be out at night with little blacklight headlamps, pursuing leaping green glows across the fields.

Funny dream, annamill. I've dreamed about Mudcat threads looked for them when I got up, then realized they only existed in my warped subconscious.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:08 AM

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/dailynews/rabbit000918.html

There is a green bunny! There is a green bunny!


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:09 AM

I've had realistic dreams too that then I can't figure out if they're real or dreams... but nothing so funny as dreaming that someone was telling me to get out of bed! But back when I was really depressed (I was being treated), I used to dream a dream, then wake up, start going about my day - then the alarm would go off and I'd really wake up, having heretofore only dreamt that I'd awakened. My therapist said it was a classic example of dissociation, which is this great defense mechanism so that the bad things that are really happening aren't really happening to you. So I started checking in my dreams (oops, typoed creams, ha ha), and once actually had something so strange going on that I decided I must be dreaming, so I pinched myself, and when I didn't feel the pinch I knew I was really dreaming... just like in the books! It was really funny at the time. I laughed so hard I woke myself up...


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:23 AM

..I once dreamed I was a butterfly dreaming he was a man.. now I don't know if I'm a man dreaming I am a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I am a man!!

When I gave up smoking, I used to dream I was sitting on my couch having a cigarette. Enjoyed it too!! Then I would realize in my dream that I was not suppose to be smoking and would put it out.

Funny how we talk to ourselves as if we're a different person. .. and sometimes we lie!!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:33 AM

Once when I tried to give up smoking and was using nicotine patches I had succession of nightmares. the most vivid one involved barbie dolls with wings which were flying all around me, making wasp sounds. I was dressed in a ballerina costume with a huge python round my neck. The barbies wanted me to fly away with them, but the snake persuaded me to stay in a tree with it.
I discarded the patches and lit up
Patrish


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Bagpuss
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:36 AM

People had me convinced that I had dreamed up a kids tv programme I used to watch. Nobody else I met could ever remember it and I started to believe I had made it up in my head - even though I could even remember the theme tune.

Luckily I found a mention of it on the web, so I know it is real now.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Max
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:54 AM

annamill, you stumbled upon a new feature of the Mudcat. I've been working on it for years for myself really. I wasn't sure I had finished the Dream Browser with Alarm Clock Feature yet, but I guess I have. Everyone can throw your alarm clocks away.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Kim C
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:09 PM

Ohmagawd, I saw the green bunny!!!!!!

I once dreamed, for a very split second, that I was holding a flintlock rifle and I shot a red-coated soldier at nearly pointblank range. At least that's all of it that I remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:20 PM

I sometimes keep dream diaries - a book by my bedside to record my dreams whenever I wake up. That's when they are most vivid. It is interesting to see recurring themes. One theme is scarves and shawls. Another is frustrated travel. No green bunnies, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:42 PM

That's a funny story, annamill- Big Bro Max has done well!

I don't use an alarm clock but like you, one morning I went back to bed. I dreamed that I was in a theatre and an old scraggly man (Father Time? Hmmmm)came to the aisle seat where I was seated and looked at me. I moved my knees aside to let him pass in front of me but he just stood there, and I said, Oh, you want me to get up? And woke up.

Like you others, I have vivid dreams and I often look forward to the night's offerings!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:46 PM

OH NO MAX!!

You know, I once read somewhere that whatever man can conceive, he can do! What a frightening thought!

How do we set it??

Patrish, you still smokin'?

Gotta go see this green bunny. What next? Neon zebras?

Cheez!!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:00 PM

I dreamed about HER again lastnight...as it should be.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:07 PM

Saw the bunny! I wish I coul be alive long enough to see where this goes. Blast! This is the first thing I've seen the human race do that's worth hanging around for, just to see the outcome. It's gonna be interesting. Much more than computers. Someone told me they've learned how to use a gene that allows you to grow new teeth. Imagine! (poor dentists though)

Oh well! Pretty wild!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: sophocleese
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:47 PM

I like the story annamill. This morning I woke up with the alarm and turned it off instead of using the 'snooze' button. Sad to say I cannot remember what I dreamed.

I also keep a small record of unusual or recurring dreams. While depressed I dreamt often of a mile high cliff with a city beside it. The towers of the city rose up in front of the cliff but there was no bridge to connect them to the country at the top of the cliff. I would end up driving around trying to muster up the courage to make the jump that everybody else was making to get from one side to the other. I've never made the leap yet.

As a teenager I had a marvelously erotic dream. I woke up feeling, well, wonderful and relaxed. However the only images I could remember from the dream were Charlton Heston and ostriches. I'm not sure whether I should be glad or sad that I've never had that dream again.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Bert
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:14 PM

Where do you get that gene for new teeth Annmill? Oh, and while you're at it, do they have one for playing the guitar, I need one of those too.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:26 PM

Sophocleese,
You're just toying with Mbo, right? Charleton Heston and ostriches? Erotic? Not emus, ostriches? And just where was he sticking his head?


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: GUEST,nightdrifter
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:47 PM

sophocleese, I think you might pay more attention to your dreams as they are giving you great guidance. A mile high cliff is a great obstacle to be overcome, but the city beside it with the high towers offer a much greater state of conciousness if you put the great effort into letting go of whatever it is that is causing your depression. You want to make the jump and cross over like everyone else but haven't gotten up the courage to do so yet, -- we all love to hang on to our misery but as soon as we let go, the 'bridge' appears and we can go on to greater heights with a much greater state of conciousness and understanding. Driving around in the car trying to make up your mind is the meandering way you allow you thoughts to go on and on without any constructive purpose. When you become aware that you are dwelling on a depressing thought, change it. Say a prayer for someone you know who is ill or having problems. Or, pray for the kids in St. Jude's or any other childrens hospital. It is only by helping others that we can help ourselves,-- I know, I've been there too. Lots of love and luck


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 05:21 PM

sophocleese, that's exactly what I did too. My mind was sending me a warning message because subcons...ly(sp?) I knew what I had done and I didn't want me to oversleep.

L., A.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: annamill
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 05:22 PM

Oh Sorry, Bert Dear! I don't remember where or who told me about the teeth gene, but I do remember it's not now, but in the future. Has to be ok'd by 'the powers that be' you know.

L.,A.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: guinnesschik
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 05:32 PM

I too have had dreams very similar to all mentioned. Mostly when I was having a bad life, except for the alarm clock dream, which seems to be your subconscious (where's my dictionary?) way of letting you know it's time to get up. Old habits die hard, so we satisfy 'em with a sneak of a ciggie in dreamland.

I get really frustrated, 'cause I write beautiful songs in my sleep. I also walk around nekkid, but nobody seems to notice it. (Thank goodness!)


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 05:40 PM

I CAN'T STAND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I been reading this all day and the number of cracks on everything from the original title to each post are now in the hundreds......But I'm trying not to be as nasty and smart-ass as before and I'm stifling myself so I don't make a rude............AH TA' HELL WITH IT!!!.........just one, OK?.................

So Meebo, did you change underwear after your dream?

.......Ahhh.......I feel much better now myself.....sorta' like Meebo after the dream...............sorry, that was two wasn't it............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 05:53 PM

For years I've had a series of dreams that often incorporate one of two central themes: Army dreams and underground dreams.

I don't know how many times I've been drafted. In the dreams I think the highest number of times I'd been in the army before was three. Generally I had a hard time getting people to recognize the seniority that should give me.

It's amazing how many of my dreams have an underground, cave, tunnel--what have you--major component.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:04 PM

Spaw, not that kind of dream you pig!


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: CamiSu
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:13 PM

I had a childhood friend, went to her house a lot, I could tell you just how her house looked the driveway and everything. Trouble was she was a dream. The strange thing was that for the most part i didn't think about her, and my everyday life in grade school wasa basically friendless thing so you'd think I'd have noticed. I was in HS before I thought of her conciously and put together that she didn't exist...

On another track, the mister, before he met me, went into a herpetology lab with his girlfriend. While all the snakes were slithering around, someone commented on the nightmares that were sure to come out of this class. He didn't think much of it but a few nights later snakes intruded into his dreams. He woke and tried to go back to sleep. but they returned. Finally he got up to pee and then went back to snakeless sleep. It took a few tries for him to figure out that the snakes were telling him to go pee...

Green bunnies! What will they think of next?


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: rangeroger
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:57 PM

I have really vivid and sometimes complicated dreams that I enjoy completely.I don't try to analyze them or find hidden meanings or truth in them, I just enjoy them as night time entertainment.

When I quite smoking, I had a dream where I bought a brand new pack of cigarettes,light one up, and after taking the first hit,it tasted so bad I threw the entire pack away.Never had a single craving for one after that.

rr


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:09 AM

yEAH, rr. i LOVE MY DREAMWORLD. pURE ENTERTAINMENT.
mR. sPAW, WHY WOULD YOU OF ALL PEOPLE ASSUME THAT mBO WEARS UNDERWEAR?
aND bERT, WOULD YOU SETTLE FOR GLOW IN THE DARK GREEN TEETH? WE CAN MANAGE THAT FOR YOU.
Damn etc.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:44 AM

Sorry Sins....That was presumptious of me. Meebo, can you clear this up for us? I personally just don't see you as a "wild and free" kinda' guy, but I could be wrong.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:20 AM

I'm packed in like sardines.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Wavestar
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 12:12 PM

Oh, the images. Not sure I needed that, Mbo. And my father is 'the mister'? How terribly perplexing. Familiar things from new perspectives.

I have very vivid dreams as well - I was relating one to my friends last night wherein I discovered the island where the faeries took the stolen child in Yeat's poem... It was lovely, and I woke up feeling terribly literary.

-Jessica


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: GUEST,Nightdrifter
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 01:54 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 03:49 PM

Mbo! You left Spaw speechless! Who would have believed it could be done? Congratulations!
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 04:09 PM

Well, the last nightmare I had in my life was when I was about 11 or 12. We had a cat. In the dream, and I did something to irritate the cat, and it assumed its true shape - that of an alien with crystal electric fur. It chased me around the yard, yowling and sparking, until I jumped up on the gas (for cooking) tank outside and woke up. Yes, I was heavily into The Outer Limits at the time, and yes, there was a cat yowling after I woke up. Maybe later I'll tell you about the earlier one with a dinosaur in my front yard...

Like I said, I don't have nightmares. I have dreams that bore me until I wake up.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 04:48 PM

Well Sins, I'm not exactly speechless....just generally worn out with "Mr. Whitey-Tighty." After his little tirade on the "Tough One Catters" thread, I now fully realize that no one has ever had it as tough as he does. There isn't a spare moment or thought to be had as he marches forward into the great rat race. None of us ever did anything or had to work to attain anything and if we should have taken a step off the path to actually experience reality and life, we are lowly slackards. I see my true place now thanks to his wisdom and experience.

(read: screw it.....its his life and I'm glad it was never mine!)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 05:09 PM

CamiSu, I think the dream about snakes was hiding the real bladder discomfort input, helping him keep asleep, as I understand dream research.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 05:15 PM

AAAHHH Spaw. It's not like you to give up so easily. Bad day? If I promise to tell you about one of my dreams and give you permission to embarrass the hell out of me with your interpretation, will you smile? And give Matthew another chance? Not that he needs one or cares but just to make nice around here. OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 05:29 PM

Ah, I can never say no to you Sins......and you don't even have to tell me a dream.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:22 PM

Wow, love the new nickname. And I wasn't insulting ANYONES work ethic. I'm just stating a fact that exists HERE at ECU School of Art. AND I'm waiting for a certain SOMEONE, and I'll be DAMNED if I'll be caught screwing around behind her back.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:27 PM

Ya' gotta' help me here Sins...........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:52 PM

I'll try. I believe the critical question is "Is she also waiting for Mbo?" Or better yet, "Is she even aware that Mbo is waiting for her?" Before you take offense at this Mbo, I have to confess that I just found out that the man I was "waiting for" was keeping his options open. My option, as you gentlemen (and trust me this is not the first word that comes to mind to describe the opposite sex today) say in football, was dropped. You are too young to know that this is the ONE woman in the world for you. You are being unfair to yourself. And if that isn't enough to make you reconsider your options, you are being unfair to her.
I am not suggesting you run out and get laid or even date formally. I am suggesting that you allow yourself to meet other people. If SHE is in fact The One, I am happy for you. If you find yourself attracted to someone else, give it some thought.

Lecture over. You would be perfectly justified in telling me and the "cat's rear foot" to mind our own business. You are legally and morally an adult and I respect that. Just want you to be happy even now, especially now.
For the record, I do know of several "first loves" who met at 16, married at 18, had babies at 19 and live happily ever after. Your choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:58 PM

Sorry Sins. Geez, I wish polygamy was legal!(:<))

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ely
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:25 PM

I dream weird stuff all the time, especially if I'm over-tired, but these two really stand out (and yes, I often dream about death, but I've never killed anybody so I don't worry about it). Warning, this is gonna be long.

I once dreamt that I was asleep and dreaming, and in the dream I was visited by a man who had lived in the area during the Civil War (American, that is, 1861-1865). He was trying to tell me something about his seven-year-old son who had died, but I couldn't understand. THe next night, he visited me again and conveyed to me that I was to look for a painting. I found the painting buried in my yard. It was long, maybe 12 inches tall by 30 inches long--like the shape of one of those large group portraits they take of high school classes and army divisions--and painted in black and brown watercolor or ink. The setting was in a clearing in the woods, looking out through he woods towards the nearby farms. On the right was a house that was still standing in my time (1999, in this case). In the middle was a church with a tall steeple, which was gone. On the left was the man's farm, which was also gone (he had been poor and the buildings were in disrepair). In the front and center of the painting was an open grave and the silhouette of the man holding his son's stiffened body, wrapped in a blanket. The painting, in effect, showed me the location of the grave so I could put up a marker and keep his memory alive. The dream was so vivid that, if I had the talent, I could still reproduce the painting from memory. Gave me chills.

I had the second dream last week after getting 3 hours of sleep total over two nights (like I said, I dream even stranger things when sleep-deprived). It involved the ghost of a woman named Judith who had been tortured and killed--I'm not sure why, but I got the impression she was a Joan of Arc kind of figure. Anyway, the torture involved closing her left foot in a metal boot with spikes on the inside. The ghost was dressed in neoclassical robes (like a winged Victory), a knight's helmet with a face mask, and the boot. It wasn't such a weird dream by my standards until I got so deeply into sleep that, when she decided to climb into bed next to me and smother me, I could FEEL the covers lift, the mattress depress, and the pressure on my chest. I kept expecting to feel the cold metal boot against my legs and forced myself to wake up before it happened. I was amazed at how aware I was while it was happening, which made it creepier.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:03 PM

Ely,
Do you record your dreams or just remember? I tend to forget details if I don't write it all down at once. It doesn't seem possible that these don't mean something. Bits and pieces of your day wrapped up in a story. Or just a good movie?

Spaw, a line from the "Quiet Man" just jumped into my head: "Two women in the house and (in despair) one of them a red head..." thank you for the kind thought.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:08 PM

I've dreamt about something that was lost and that I either have it again or never lost it. Specifically, sometimes I know that it was lost and is found and other times I know it was never lost. It could be a CD, one bone out of a set (that sucked worse than losing both), money or whatever. I have and enjoy full use of it in my dream and then I wake and believe that I still have it. (I always know it had been lost at this point.) ANd then I realize that it's still lost and I experience that intial loss all over again.
worst was a dream about having tea with my mom a couple weeks after her death. I really believed that she had just been away(She worked on the road a lot). When I woke, I can't say I felt the loss all over again because I hadn't gotten over it yet, but it was fresh again.
I sometimes relive my day but with different results in a dream. Sometimes, a day that had gone well turns awry in my dream and I have the great relief of waking up to find that everything had gone the way that it had and not the way I dreamed it.

I really oughta have a run-on dream for this thread, but I've been off-line for a couple days and I'm outta practice. I'll try later if Spaw doesn't beat me to it. (He's got it in him when he puts his mind to it)

Slán,
Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:20 PM

Ely, have you heard of the ancient concept of incubi and succubi? I had one "experience" in a hotel that was scary. (And I was alone!)Where's that Unexplained thread when we need it!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:25 PM

You mean a evil spirit tried to...ahem...sexually assault you? That is scary stuff alright. Gives me the goosebumps.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ely
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:22 PM

I do write them down if I still remember them when I wake up, especially if they are as wacky as that. I think one of the reasons I did remember them is that normally, no matter how kooky a dream is, I can relate it to something that I've experienced or been thinking about recently, but I couldn't in this case.

Am not familiar with incubi and succubi but they don't sound very pleasant. I'll look them up.

One of my friends who has suffered a lot from sleep disorders reminded me of the tales of monster-like creatures that come and sit on one's chest, and that there is a sleep disorder of which dreams of such creatures are symptoms. I cannot remember which disorder it is or I could give a better explanation. I wasn't dreaming of any demons but I wonder if the sensation is the same sort of thing. I don't have a sleep disorder (I sleep just fine 99.9% of the time) but when I am particularly exhausted I'm more prone to really bizarre, almost hallucinatory, dreams.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ely
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:46 PM

"C. Sleep paralysis, as defined by David Hufford, is "a period of inability to perform voluntary movements, either when falling asleep or when awakening, accompanied by conscious awareness." Such paralysis during sleep is normal. But what may constitute a sleep disorder is bad syncronisation between the sleep state and paralysis, which can result in the subject being paralysed and fully awake. A sensation of heavy pressure on the chest often accompanies sleep paralysis."

From: http://www.generation.net/~valmont/ivtq/ivtq12.html

This isn't exactly what I was talking about but it's interesting (I was thinking of the Henry Fuseli painting, "The Night-Mare"). A version of that can be seen here:

http://www.illusionsgallery.com/nightmare.html

Sorry if these don't come out blue and clicky. I don't know how to do that.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:21 AM

My Dad died suddenly in 1993. I have a much-younger half-brother,and my Dad had put aside a sum of money for him,and also wanted his home and belongings sold and divided between the two of us.Unfortunately,my Father had put a lot of the money in a cd in my brother's name,and when Dad died,Eric legally was entitled to it.His mother (he was 16 at the time) used this money in an attempt to grab the estate for herself,to delay sale of the property,and in every way to fight me as executor,and to stymie the distribution of the estate.Eventually,I turned the balance of his trust fund over to him(her) rather than see it consumed by legal battles.

On the day the estate finally closed,I went to bed in pain and sorrow,not so much because my brother's future was now in jeopardy,but because I felt I'd failed my Dad in his last request.That night,Dad came to me in a dream. He walked into the room,wearing the pajamas I'd seen him in often,and stood by the bed.It was not frightening,and his appearance to me was not even surprising.I tried to explain what had happened, to tell him how sorry I was. He smiled at me,and said "I know all about it,and I'm proud of you.You did the best you could do.None of the rest matters." He smiled again and was gone.The next day I felt that a huge burden had been lifted from me.

Do I think I was visited by my Father's ghost? I'm not sure. But I do think that the world of dream is just that...another realm of being,a realm where we can experience terror or pure joy,live out fantasies,and perhaps reach out and touch those who have left us.Dreams seem to have their own continuity. I visit places in dreams that I have visited repeatedly before. I could not describe them to you now,but in my dream the feeling is "ah! I'm here again!" Symbols, too, recur.When I am approaching a large life-changing event (leaving a job,moving,the breakup of a relationship), that Change Dream is centered around a tornado - a very real-seeming,irresistable and frightening force. I am somehow swept up in the action of the dream,but simultaaneously aware that I am being given important information.

A very interesting topic...


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: GUEST,Nightdrifter
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:27 AM

I have been interpreting dreams for 30 yrs. and will be glad to do so for anyone who wants to ring me as I do not like to type. If you want my phone number give me an e-address to send it to and your name. I do not charge, nor do I accept gifts. I do believe that knowledge not shared is wasted. God bless Nightdrifter


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:42 AM

But what is a dream- and what is real? Three times in my father's last year, he told my brother, he woke up when he felt a nudge on his knee. And then, he said, there was an angel at the foot of the bed smiling at him. Not scary, at all, he said, but rather nice.

What he greatly feared was that the angel was warning him that his new wife was going to die, and he didn't want to be left alone again. My brother told me that his own thought was: Oh, no, Dad, this one is for you.

My father was not a fanciful man and I never heard him recount a dream.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:34 PM

I had a horrible experience in a motel. I kept waking up with a man standing over me. I jumped up, turned on the light and he was gone. After the third time I left the light on. I had friends in the adjoining suite. At breakfast the next day, the wife told a wierd tale of waking up several times with a man standing over her.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: mousethief
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:35 PM

Sins, that doesn't sound like a dream but a ghost story.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:43 PM

Reminds me of a classic Jewish curse "May you inherit a motel...and be found dead in every room!"


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 05:59 PM

Thread Creep Alert! Closer to Hallowe'en, how about starting a thread on ghost stories? The scarier, the better!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 01:48 AM

...and as I drift I find myself in this very thread, as promising as any thread to float in to whilst dreaming in cyberspace, and so I settle down and look at what I have to play with in this dream....and of course there is a lot going on with wires and discs and there is a sign that says to ride the Celeron you must be as tall as Snoopy and I'm not quite as tall as the Charlie Brown sign over by the Pentium rides, so I'm stuck but if I think positive it might be fun and since I just ate a bunch of cookies out of the recycle bin (and I wouldn't admit that to just anybody), I think I might just as well stay with the slower rides anyway and off I go....past the ferretsoft and onto the homesite of the folk music school where I teach bodhrán to people who think they're gonna make big bucks in the music industry and then to the website of Rush Limbaugh, so I rush through as quickly as this slow Celeron will carry me and thank God I make it through without too much of it rubbing off on me, and next I find myself at the Mudcat Tavern but I promised to post a dream to this very thread so I come back to where I started and look around and see a big Screen and AAAAGGHHH.....there's this goofy guy hunched over a keyboard staring at me and I wake up screaming!

Slán,
Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Naemanson
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 07:32 AM

To Rich(bodhránai gan ciall),

You mentioned losing one bone of a set. I haven't exeperienced that agony yet but a friend gave me a single ebony bone of what must have been a beutiful set at one time. Are you missing an ebony bone?

BTW, in a twist on the classic zen aphorism, What is the sound of one bone playing?

Re DREAMS:

I used to dream of being chased by dinosaurs. Generally I was running through the forest with the beast right behind me. I would generally end up at a cliff. I was faced with the choice of jumping or being eaten.

In another recurring dream I was goven the choice of being executed by either drowning in quicksand or being beheaded by guillotine.

Question to parents:

Have you had nightmares concerning your children? Mine are particularly vivid and leave me shaking and sweaty. Those ruin my whole night. It's tough getting back to sleep. The worst was when adump truck was backing up over where they were playing. In my dream I was beating on the driver's door trying to get him to stop. Even today the memory of that dream leaves me shaken.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 01:03 AM

Naemanson, that's not my bone. If memory serves correct it was cherry, but I'm sure it was some kind of light wood.
Thanks all the same.
Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 11:36 PM

"That's not my bone." I hope that proves to be the worst sounding sentence I ever post here. Sorry.

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: CamiSu
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:38 AM

Naemanson

I know whereof you speak on the nightmares about children. I also have had the very unpleasant experience of (in my dreams) reliving an accident my youngest had a few years ago when he wascrushed by a stack of green lumber. He is alive, but I'm pretty convinced that he wasn't when I pulled him out, and prayer brought him back. The terror of that picture was a while leaving, believe me.

My husband also once dreamed that something was coming for a child, and had to pray quite a while before he could go back to sleep. That dream never returned.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Naemanson
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:46 AM

Oh, CamiSu, I hadn't thought I might awaken something from the past! I'm so glad things turned out all right.

The loss of a child must be one of the most horrific things imaginable. I'm sure that fear is the source of my nightmares. They do not happen frequently, no more than one every year or so but they are particularly vivid and horrifying.

I do not, as a rule, pay close attention to the news. I touch lightly, keeping an eye on history as it happens, but not getting too involved. I know what that sounds like but I have been burned out by infotainment and I cannot find any news reporting that is unnecessarily biased.

But all that is for another thread. What I wanted to say is that I opened the Sunday paper this morning to find the pictures of the father and son in Jerusalem huddled in terror as the bullets fly. That is a fear I do not need but will always carry.


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Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: CamiSu
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:37 PM

I have not seen the picture but have heard of it on NPR. That is an image I'd rather not have in mind. I had enough trouble with the image several years ago of a child killed in Bosnia, and found it VERY hard not to hate the perpetrators of that bit of evil.

BTW, while Ben does carry some scars as well as some hidden damamge (he is totally deaf in one ear), he is completely unafraid of anything!

Cami Su


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