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How do you keep from getting mad?

GUEST,at work 03 Oct 00 - 11:12 AM
MMario 03 Oct 00 - 11:16 AM
Bert 03 Oct 00 - 11:16 AM
Wesley S 03 Oct 00 - 11:17 AM
SINSULL 03 Oct 00 - 11:23 AM
M.Ted 03 Oct 00 - 11:23 AM
Bernard 03 Oct 00 - 11:24 AM
Patrish(inactive) 03 Oct 00 - 11:29 AM
John Hardly 03 Oct 00 - 11:39 AM
Jeri 03 Oct 00 - 11:56 AM
SINSULL 03 Oct 00 - 12:04 PM
Mbo 03 Oct 00 - 12:09 PM
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kendall 03 Oct 00 - 12:24 PM
Troll 03 Oct 00 - 12:40 PM
Mrrzy 03 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM
Max 03 Oct 00 - 12:46 PM
Ely 03 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM
Little Neophyte 03 Oct 00 - 01:20 PM
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Jeri 03 Oct 00 - 01:56 PM
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Subject: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST,at work
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:12 AM

Sometimes I marvel at how mudcat denizens know when each other is joking. When I see someone obviously being insulting to another I often want to jump in and say "Go play in traffic! Most people here seem to have great senses of humor. How do you deal with the ones who don't?

Claire


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: MMario
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:16 AM

we eat them. with ketchup.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Bert
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:16 AM

We laugh at 'em. tee hee


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:17 AM

I try to ignore them myself. If the thread is really ugly I'd rather go over to a music thread and play there instead. Flamers are after attention. Most two year olds know that negative attention is better than no attention at all. I'd rather not play that game. Life is too short. And after all it's just words on a computer screen - it's not real.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:23 AM

I avoid rabid animals. To avoid getting angry - I don't avoid it. I get angry but wait until the "red flash" passes before responding. If it is friendly fire, I try to respond with humor, if not, with dignity (and an implied "Fuck You)
Mary
Smiling


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:23 AM

Most of us have learned to avoid certain threads and to ignore certain people. Mostly, after a while, you learn that it isn't worth the agravation(not always, though--)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Bernard
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:24 AM

I can't get mad at them - they're sooo funny!

Anyone who takes life so seriously has to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic!

The rest of us are here for a good time, useful information, helping each other, etc. The misfits know who they are! We have their addresses. We will heave rocks through their windows - 95, 98 or whatever!


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:29 AM

There are certain threads, just by the title I know not to open them. If I should read something that really makes me lose it I react similar to sinsull, I avoid reply until the moment of madness has passed.
Patrish


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: John Hardly
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:39 AM

I'm pretty new at this but I don't take myself so seriously as to get offended if others don't either. Even as new as I am I can already tell that that catspaw guy's smell is pretty harmless<<---humor! ha ha ha

John millring Hardly


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:56 AM

1. I try not to post when I'm mad. I seem to say some pretty stupid things at those times. I've heard it said that in arguments (especially on the internet) "He who gets mad first, loses."

2. Whenever I imagine someone else is sitting at their computer, redfaced and bug-eyed, with foam flying from their mouth, I try to think how the same message would sound coming from someone sitting calmly and perhaps smiling.

3. Sometimes, the lack of humor has been on my part. I try to remember that.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:04 PM

Jeri,
I must have missed it. I think of you as one of our more rational members.
Mary


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Mbo
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:09 PM

I don't get mad, I get even. >:-)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Naemanson
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:23 PM

Mad? I've been mad all my life! Rabidly mad! Truly insane!

Oh, you mean the other kind of mad. When I get mad at what I've read on this forum, or elsewhere on the 'net, it means the subject touches me deeply. There are very few of these. Bigotry is one of them.

At such times I try to keep in touch with my sense of humor. There's nothing like a good laugh to cut through anger and depression.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: kendall
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:24 PM

OH YEAH??


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Troll
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:40 PM

Chemicals.

troll


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM

I try to take life as a floor show. It's all in the entertainment value. Now, how to keep my temper with my twins is another story! I'd welcome all KINDS of advice on that one!


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Max
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:46 PM

… anger leads to hate, hate leads to the Darkside.

Anger is a negative emotion. Negative emotions do not exist, we just think they do sometimes. Buddhism doesn't have anything to say about coveting thy neighbors wife, but it sure has plenty to say about anger. Negative emotions are a spiritual virus, they do not belong in us. The cure is also imaginary which makes the whole battle just a waste of precious cycles. We create our own suffering. Prioritize your thinking, pick your battles and be happy.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Ely
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM

I think part of it is just having been here for awhile. You become familiar with people's personalities (on-screen, at least) and you figure out that "X" might sound mad, but "X" coming from a certain person is usually tongue-in-cheek, because you've seen their posts in context over and over. Same as getting to know somebody face to face.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:20 PM

I don't mind feeling mad, but I try not to respond to postings when I am upset and at the same time I remind myself that I am taking myself and life way too seriously.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST,Sailor Dan at work
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:36 PM

UP to a short time ago, I used to answer those flames at other people, kind of like protecting those getting burned. I then realized that my getting angry, bent out of shape and pissed off, didnt do a damn bit of good. So as a number of others have said, I bypass those threads that incite anger and hatred by asking myself a question. The question is, Will this make a difference in my life if I get angy and vent my anger on the screen?? So far I have only had one answer, NO.

Now I read, bypass, laugh at different inciteful threads ask my question and then go on to attain another shred of knowledge from the good people here on the cat.

Lets see DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE in my life?? NNAAAHHHH

Sailor DAn


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:56 PM

Max, I said something extremely identical in one of those "why we have our shorts in a bunch this time" threads. Maybe in a past life,...oops - wrong thread.

What I've always said is:
Yield and overcome;
Bend and be straight;
Empty and be full;
Wear out and be new;
Have little and gain;
Have much and be confused.

Therefore wise men embrace the one
And set an example to all.
Not putting on a display,
They shine forth.
Not boasting,
They receive recognition.
Not bragging,
They never falter.
They do not quarrel,
So no one quarrels with them.
Therefore the ancients say, "Yeild and overcome."
Is that an empty saying?
Be really whole,
And all things will come to you.

...must go shave my head now...
Seriously, that comes from the Tau Te Ching by Lau Tsu. I don't agree with a lot of his philosophy, but I really believe in the above. Max is right. A person can't be angry and happy at the same time.

SINSULL, I may just be getting better at not becoming angry, but I've done it in places, mainly newsgroups. I once argued a point in a meeting. I had all sorts of reasons and statistics for both sides of the argument that clearly showed I was right. When I finished, the chairman asked "So which idea do you think is best?" He hadn't been listening to what I said, but how I said it - I should have shouted a bit and pounded on the table.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:04 PM

Max, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell you that you are completely full of shit. Judging from your last posting, my assumption is that you graduated cum laude with that philo degree. Here's the deal....You get yours and I'll get mine....lessee, Bill's got one too, so we'll take him along......anyway, we'll take all our philo BA's and about three bucks and go to McDonalds to see if we can swap for three cups of coffee. Then we can sit around and bullshit each other to death or until they won't refill anymore, whichever comes first.

Personally, I try to categorize everything. Category ONE is "Mildly Amusing" and Category TWO is "Pain in the Ass." Eventually everything pretty well winds up in Category Two and I throw off a sarcastic crack about it. Sarcasm and obnoxious comments about a person's heritage is a vile form of humor and I no longer practice them. When you've reached a certain level, practice isn't needed.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: kendall
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:04 PM

Max, you continually amaze me. I expect wisdom from older people, but from one so young, it is a surprise.Thats great! (Now, if we could just do something about your taste in music) LOL. Seriously, I try to keep telling myself that "Your opinion of me is none of my business." Or, why should I give a stranger the power to upset me? Of course it doesnt always work because I'm naturally pugnacious, but, I try, I really do.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:05 PM

I heartily concur with most. Your friends and family (and yourself) are what count. If someone gets on my case on the internet...I try to be either polite or make a joke...if they still come back nasty.......just move on. You can't communicate with EVERYBODY! Oh, and my oft repeated mantra..."just be glad they don't live next door"!

Rick (who'd trade a bit of guitar savvy for drywall skills. My shed/music room/sanctuary is finished but I'll never get a job in construction!)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:10 PM

Kendall, you have to think about Max being the guy who created Mudcat, and then NOT mess with the directions it's gone in. (But I still bet he dresses up like Luke Skywalker and has a light sabre tucked away in a closet.)

Anger really does act like a virus. One person gets mad, then another, and another, until most of the community is infected. One person can't stop it - we all have to develop our own immunity if we want to avoid anger in the future.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Escamillo
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:12 PM

How do I keep from getting mad ?? eehh?? WHO says I keep from getting REALLY MAD?? AAHH??


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: khandu
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:17 PM

I do not see anger as a negative emotion. It is an extremely powerful emotion, true; but not necessarily a negative one. The energy produced by anger can be used productively. I have overcome many oppressions in my life by anger. When used productively, it can change one's life for the better. Used negatively, it only makes things worse. Emotions are negative only when used negatively. Unfortunately, we are rarely taught how to use them productively. khandu


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: NightWing
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:17 PM

In re Jeri's comment about anger being like a virus, I've noticed that once someone gets angry, they tend not to communicate well. They will misunderstand the other person's message and will *tend* to send responses that are prone to misunderstanding (or that are not, which is often worse :) It's as if anger is a disease which FIRST affects communication skills.

BB


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: mousethief
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:24 PM

Seems to me keeping from getting angry is very advanced stuff. Long before I learn that, I will have to learn not to do stupid things when I'm angry, things I'll regret later when the anger subsides, as it always does -- like posting nasty insults to a mailing list or a Mudcat thread when somebody has really pissed me off.

I can't count the number of times I've typed in this little box at the bottom of a Mudcat thread, only to go -- sheesh! what was I thinking?! -- and erase it all and return to the "all threads" page and look for something else to read.

Some days I'm better and this than others. I've posted my share of stupid things to various online conversations, and then had to go and apologize when I later realized how out-of-line I was. The more I eat crow the less I want to do it again.

Hang in there.

You get bigger as you go
No one told me, I just know
--Bruce Cockburn

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Midchuck
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:25 PM

Leap on the cat and wrassle him/her into submission.

If your blood clotting is slow enough that this is a bad idea, use your spouse instead.

Unmarried people with no cat and/or slow blood clotting just have to stay mad.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jed at Work
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:35 PM

good thoughts here, don't have much to add, but liked "pick your battles" I think that's the best advice.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:39 PM

"You lookin' for trouble? You come to the right place. You lookin' for trouble? Look right in my face" (c)Lieber & Stoller.
YOU LOOKIN'AT ME? (De Niro)
Sorry, first week of term always gets me like this!
RtS (I ain't ashamed to sing the blues)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:33 PM

I don't always know when someone is joking, and there have been times when I have tried to make a joke and others didn't get it. It seems to be an inherent problem with written (as opposed to spoken) communication, and especially with writing to people you don't know very well.

When you read something that makes you mad -
1. Don't reply right away. Take a day or so to think it over.
2. Consider the possibility that the writer is only joking, even if there aren't any obvious signs.
3. Consider the possibility that you have overlooked something. The other person may have said something earlier that clarifies what he meant. He may have been addressing his remarks to someone else, not you. He may have been referring to a different situation than the one you had in mind. Go back and re-read the relevant messages, and other related threads, if you aren't sure.
4. Consider the possibility that the writer is a troll - a person who LIKES to make people mad. If you suspect this is the case, it is best not to reply at all. Trolls thrive on attention, even if it is all negative.
5. If you want to know more about specific people, you can always click on their names and see a list of ALL their postings - assuming they have always used the same name. (Warning: some peoples' lists are enormously long.)
6. Learn to let go. No matter how brilliant you are, and no matter how strongly you feel about something, you will never convince the whole world that you're right - not even this little world of Mudcat.
7. If you do decide to reply, try to make it humorous. Better yet, try some self-deprecating humor - it is nearly always accepted. "I may be an idiot but…" Say it even if you don't mean it. It doesn't hurt.

To avoid provoking others' anger -
1. Avoid making absolute statements - anything that has "always" or "never" in it, stated or implied.
2. Make "I" statements: "I think …" "In my experience …" "I wouldn't like it if …" Avoid "You" statements: "You mean …" "You think …" "You can't …" "You have to …"
3. Keep your focus narrow, and avoid making sweeping generalizations.
4. Consider Mudcat membership. (It doesn't cost anything.) For one thing, it means you will have one name that you can use consistently, and that no one else can use. People MIGHT learn to recognize your name (or handle), and I THINK it might make them take you a little more seriously, if they know you're not a fly-by-night, hit-and-run troll.
5. Consider using your real name, for the same reasons, only more so. (Obviously, I'm in a minority here.)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: sophocleese
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:01 PM

Oh sometimes I do get angry. I usually don't post in haste though. You rarely find a bitchy post from me near the beginning of a thread. However if I'm still annoyed with something after a while I'll end up posting a reply because I often figure if its pissed me off there are others who may not say anything who are also angry. Then again I've spent a lot of my life being nice, rarely saying anything remotely unkind, and choosing my words with great care only to have them completely ignored. At least if something is posted it can be argued against if its never said than an aspect of a discussion may be missed. Other times of course I just shrug my shoulders and read something else.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:27 PM

What the hell are you talking about Jim? Geeziz....Is that a joke or what?

(great post man!!!)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Naemanson
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:42 PM

It is very easy to read these threads and interpret the content as anger. Early on when I was just lurking I was shocked at some of the stuff typed in by this Catspaw guy. Then over time I realized that about 92% of it was harmless sarcasm. Once I realized that I started looking at the other things typed in here and realized many of these people have developed good friendships and they were harrassing each other in a friendly way.

But then I read the flame posts. I realized that some of the people here were not just doing some friendly joshing. Some of the people, the flamers, were closer to being sick.

So now I read with a judicious eye. If I see something that gets under my skin I ask myself, What does that poster want from me?" Generally the answer is that he wants my attention. By withholding that attention you are doing as much good as by responding to him.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:46 PM

Confession time, (should I start another thread?) about the stupidest thing I almost did on the internet.

It was 1997 or thereabouts, and I was reading a rather heated discussion. I read one post by a complete idiot, and quickly typed mine up, attacking all his stupid theories and questioning whether some of his recent ancestors had the right number of chromosomes. I decided to read his message again before I hit the "send" button. Good thing - he had said the exact opposite of what I'd believed he'd said. I'd read part of his message and missed a key word somewhere. I would have looked and felt like a Class A jerk.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM

Your confession doen't count, Jeri--you were too careful--Some of us have pushed the submit button--and occasionally have not only misunderstood the post, but addressed our response to the wrong person in the thread, as well. Sorry...


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:52 PM

I look for the last thing from Spaw and laugh my ass off.

Len


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:50 PM

Here's an observation on modern life for all of you. I don't watch television. Hate it, don't own one. Back when I had been married a couple of years, I commented to my husband that his father obviously didn't like me. There were too many sarcastic digs and brush-offs coming from him to me.

My DH explained, however, that my father-in-law was just imitating the roughness and rudeness he was seeing on television. So the two guys had a heart-to-heart and my father-in-law started acting normal. (In other words, he started to respond to me with his real feelings rather than with the fashionable, stylized hostility of TV.) Now it is clear that he and I like each other just fine.

So, if you watch movies and TV a lot, remember that people in the shows say things for shock value which, if used much in the real world, will put an end to friendship or love .

Obviously, the same thing could happen in one's posts to the Internet.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: GUEST,whiskey
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:55 PM

Sophocleese

Just to show that some things are appreciated..thanks for the help with Banks of the Nile. Ended up using my chord sequence, but your's helped. Should be in the studio recording within 2 weeks...have done something slightly different with it. Will let you hear a clip when released. send e-mail to keeperslock@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:32 PM

I get peeved, disgusted, frustrated, weary, sad, cynical, amused,BEmused, astounded, outraged, befuddled, frustrated, jaded, bored, petulant, hysterical, recalcitrant, obdurate, desultory, tired, resigned, contemplative....and just plain confused...instead of getting mad. Keeps me busy....

....and then I imagine what I would say to a person 'X' if they were right in front of me in 3-D and living color...and it usually allows me to think it over before I say more than I need.

(and yes, I HAVE erased stuff before I poosha da button)


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: hesperis
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:24 PM

The easiest way to keep from getting mad is to cancel your subscription.

DUH!


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:34 PM

As I've said before, (and I'm pretty sure Catspaw is keeping score.) "IF YA DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR, IT ISN'T FUNNY !!!

Art


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Lena
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 02:01 AM

When a Mudcatter is being quite rude,I just wish another mudcatter is soon going to be proportionally nice.Which usually happens .


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 07:58 AM

Sometimes when I think someone has hurt someone elses feelings on a posting, I take a hanky via personal message over to the person whose feelings I think got hurt.
I try to make them laugh. But the Master of that kind of thing is Catspaw. If you are feeling down Catspaw's loving humor is the best medicine I know of.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 08:42 AM

That's 17 on that one Art, but I think that one has a lot more mileage left in it. I am glad you've retired the 92 bad condom puns though.............

And Neo.........What the hell kinda' stuff is that? Don't mess up my rep!!! Geez, I work so hard and then this..................oy..........................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 09:55 AM

Children, as they develop, learn to repeat the skills that work. The thing with anger is that for most people, most of the time, it doesn't work. Eventually anger gets discarded along with all the other bad coping ideas. Or else maybe you just get tired and decide "Who cares anyway?"

I said "for most people, most of the time" because there are times when anger serves a purpose. I have known a lot of "Ned Flanders"-types (For those of you sans TV, it is a pop culture reference to a character from the popular Fox Show "The Simpsons") who really need to get angry, if even just once in their life, to get the "gall-diddly-arned" stick out of there rectum. Also, like humor, a burst of raw anger can be an incredibly powerful weapon when focused (can something be raw and focused? I dunno). It can really get a persons attention. It is definitely a tool that is most effective when used sparingly.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 11:13 AM

Now how could I possibly get mad at silly stuff when important negative things like these are happening:

1.The Blue Jays positively SUCKED this year, wasting great seasons by David Wells and Carlos DelGado.

2.My newly drywalled shed/music room/sanctuary looks like the inside was done by an idiot.(correct assumption)

3.Someone called Bluegrass an "athletic event".

4.Canadian Politics have become so dull, that I'm only interested in the Yankee kind.

Rick


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 11:21 AM

Don't jump, Rick! Don't jump! There is so much to live for! I mean, maybe not in Canada, but you can always move south!

Just kidding! Smile everybody!

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: kendall
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 02:07 PM

Bottled up anger is poison. It must be purged. When I lose it, all I can say is "Stand from under"


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 02:16 PM

Stand from UNDER??? STAND FROM UNDER??? Is that like 'stay out of the way' or 'watch out for the fallout' or something? STAND FROM UNDER??? Geeziz Kendall....sounds like an erection or something...........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 02:21 PM

I don't, I let it come, but usually try to channel it into something productive like writing or housecleaning. Specific to the Mudcat, I usually PM to a trusted friend or two and vent to them with a great big "thank you for listening."

Using anger as a motivator for my writing is what got me into writing as a professional. I'd get angry about some issue, write a letter to the editor (this was over 25 yrs ago) and eventially was asked to provide a column and articles for papers. Then I had to learn to write regardless of what mood I was in, but I will always remember using it in that way. I also feel some of my best poetry and essays come from a feeling of great emotions, several of them from anger or a feeling of impotence about a given situation.

But, Bonnie is right about Spaw and his humour, although she runs a close second.

kat


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Naemanson
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 04:14 PM

Kendall is just quoting a sign he once saw in an outhouse. I saw that sign myself. As I remember it was on the ground floor of an experimental two story outhouse...


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: Naemanson
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 04:18 PM

That outhouse, as I recall, was an experiment based on something my cousin Jeb saw in the big city. He hadn't ever seen a pay toilet before and when he got home he thought he'd try the idea out. In a flash of brilliance he decided to double his money by building a two story monument to the almighty dollar and a person's needs. The experiment didn't work though. It was a good idea but the overhead got him....


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: kendall
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 06:37 PM

Good answer Naemanson! I'm surprised that a sailor resisted the urge to tell the truth though. "Stand from under" is a nautical term. It means get the hell out of the way. Good advice if you are standing under a cargo net full of cannon balls.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: kendall
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 06:40 PM

There are many interesting terms used at sea..such as..UP BEHIND..spaw, take a minute to wallow in that one.. Avast! up behind means let it drop..avast means stop. you should have learned that from Popeye.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 07:35 PM

I hate feeling cross. I quite enjoy being angry sometimes. The kind of things that crop up on the Mudcat sometimes are irritations more than anything else.

I enjoy heated disagreements between friends. Most of the stuff on the Mudcat falls into that category. In Maisie Ward's biography of GK Chesterton she writes about him and his younger brother Cecil: "As soon as Cecil could speak he, began to argue and the brothers' intercourse thencweforward consisted of unending discussion. They always argued, they never quarrelled." I think that is what we should aim for, rather than trying to avoid the things about which we do not agree.

I tend to think of anger as a sort of furnace inside that keeps on getting stoked up by the irritating things that happen. Every now and then something happens where you need to turn up the heating, and the furnace means you can f0 do that. But most of the time it's just there in the background.

And I suspect that to some people that may sound very unhealthy. Never mind, it's only a metaphor, like most of the things we say about ourselves. And I can't really imagine that I'd ever see the Mudcat as a place where anger as such can be useful.


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Subject: RE: How do you keep from getting mad?
From: JamesJim
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 11:13 PM

Most of the time I use "logic" to keep from getting angry (this drives my wife nuts, as it does several other members of my family and friends). I like Zig Zigler's take on "kicking the cat." I figure that someone has kicked the person who is making me angry and he or she is just passing it on. Usually anger subsides in a short time, if you will just let it. Of course, please notice the word at the beginning of this paragraph - "Most." Sometimes I lose it and just kick the hell out of any "cat" in sight. Everyone has limits.

Jim


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