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Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) Related threads: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound (38) Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (14) (closed) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Steve Gardham Date: 05 Oct 09 - 04:04 PM Note that Logan's c1782 version has 5 verses of aabb then 2 of abcb before reverting back to aabb to finish. A sure sign of a concoction. Some related lyrics and ballads as early as the 17thc have the mixed patterns as well. I came across an 18thc version recently that is unusual in that the pattern is consistent. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Alice Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:46 PM jeez, I just noticed this thread is from back in '97, the year I joined Mcat. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Alice Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:29 PM the other thread The tune I sing was collected by Herbert Hughes in County Derry, published in 1909. Alice |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Alice Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:23 PM I should have noted I'm not referring to the Buffy Sainte-Maire recording. I cannot now remember where I learned it, but it is probably in the older thread. Alice |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Alice Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:22 PM Must I go bound and you go free Must I love a lad who wouldn't love me Was 'ere I taught so poor a wit As to love a lad who would break my heart. (Above what I sing from a fragment - there is an older thread on this where I posted more). Alice |
Subject: Lyr Add: PICKING LILIES From: Jim Dixon Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:18 PM Lyrics and notes copied from A Pedlar's Pack of Ballads and Songs by William Hugh Logan (Edinburgh: William Paterson, 1869), page 336: PICKING LILIES From a chap copy of "Four excellent new songs, 1. The Captain's Frolic; 2. Picking Lilies; 3. The distressed Sailors on the rocks of Scylla; 4. The Generous Gentleman." Circa 1782. This is a good specimen of a peculiar kind of ballad, which, some years ago, used to fascinate the minds of sentimental damsels whose notions of poetry were rather limited. Down in yon meadow fresh and gay, Picking lilies fresh and gay, Picking lilies red and blue, I little thought what love could do. Where love is planted there it grows, It buds and blossoms like any rose, It has such a sweet and pleasant smell, No flower on earth can it excel. There is thousands, thousands in a room, My love she carries the brightest bloom, She surely is some chosen one, I will have her or I'll have none. I saw a ship sailing on the sea, As deeply loaded as she could be, But not so deep as in love I am, I care not whether I sink or swim. Must I go bound, shall she go free? Must I love one that loves not me? Why should I act such a childish part, As to love one that would break my heart? I put my hand into a bush, Thinking the sweetest rose to find, But I pricked my finger to the bone, And left the sweetest rose behind. If roses be such a prickly flower, They should be gathered when they are green, For he that weds with an unkind love, I'm sure he strives against the stream. If my love were dead and gone to rest, I'd think on her that I love best, I'd wrap her up in the linen strong. And I'd think on her when she's dead and gone. * Several songs in the DT contain the phrase "must I go bound": WATER IS WIDE GREEN VALLEY BLUE-EYED BOY |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Steve Gardham Date: 30 Sep 09 - 05:22 PM cetmst 'Obviously not 18thc sentiments.' I presume you mean they are earlier. Yes I agree, at least 17thc, possibly earlier. Your 5th verse is an interloper from another lament which also has become a floater so will attach itself to almost any lament, like any of these verses is like to do. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Bill D Date: 30 Sep 09 - 03:39 PM Interesting....as I read those lyrics, memories of how I learned it 40 years ago kinda flooded in.. I do not remember exactly where I got these words, but they differ in a number of ways...mostly just for 'fitting' the tune, but having a different feeling in a couple places. MUST I GO BOUND Must I go bound and you go free Must I love one who don't love me Must I then play the foolish part To love a one who'd break my heart I touched my finger to the bush For, oh, it was of fairest kind The thorn it pricked me at the touch And so I left that rose behind I leaned my back against some oak I thought it was a trusty tree But first it bent and then it broke Just as my love had done to me Must I go bound and you go free Must I love one who don't love me Must I then play the foolish part To love a girl/one who'd break my heart There is a ship that's sails the sea It's loaded down as deep can be But not so deep as the love I'm in I know not there if I sink or swim Oh love is gentle and love is kind Gay(like) as a jewel when first it's new But love grows old and waxes cold And fades away like morning dew Must I go bound and you go free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I then play the foolish part To love a one would break my heart |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Howard Jones Date: 30 Sep 09 - 12:23 PM June Tabor's version is similar to one which John Kirkpatrick and Sue Harris used to perform. They said it came from the Shropshire gipsy singer May Bradley. |
Subject: Lyr Add: MUST I GO BOUND (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Little Hawk Date: 30 Sep 09 - 10:22 AM The version I know by Buffy has some minor differences from the one posted above. It's like this: MUST I GO BOUND (Traditional) © Arr. Buffy Sainte-Marie Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love the one who would break my heart I put my finger into a bush I thought I'd found a lovely flower The thorn it pierced me to a touch And so I left the rose behind I leaned my back up against some oak I thought it was a trusty tree But first it bended and then it broke And so did my false love to me Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love the one who would break my heart There is a ship that sails the sea It's loaded down as deep can be But not so deep as the love I am in I know not e'er I sink or swim Oh love be gentle and love be kind Gay as a jewel when first it's new But love grows old and then grows cold And fades away like the morning dew Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love the one who would break my heart |
Subject: Lyr Add: MUST I BE BOUND (from June Tabor) From: cetmst Date: 30 Sep 09 - 07:27 AM In the versions I've seen the third line in the first verse reads "Must I enact such a childish part" or "Must I then act the (a) childish part". June Tabor on her A Quiet Eye Album titles it "Must I Be Bound" and sings other verses. ^^ MUST I BE BOUND Must I be bound while you go free Must I love one who never loved me Must I enact such a childish part And follow one who will break my heart? The first thing that my love gave me It was a cap well lined with lead And the longer that I wore that cap It grew the heavier on my head. You gave me a mantle for to wear Lined with grief and stitched with care And the drink you gave me was bitter gall And the blows you gave me were worse than all. And the last thing that my love gave me It was a belt with colours three And the first was pain and the next was sorrow And the last was sda misery. But I will climb up that high tree And I will rob that wild bird's nest And I will fall without a fear And find me one that loves me best. Must I be bound while you go free Must I love a one who never loved me Must I enact such a childish part And follow one who will break my heart? Obviously not 18th century sentiments. I seem to recall a thread seeking songs about the abuse of women and think this belongs there. - Charles |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Steve Gardham Date: 29 Sep 09 - 04:07 PM Even as early as the 18th century these floating verses were in a state of flux turning up in garlands in all sorts of combinations. Most versions even then were, like Buffy's version, obviously from separate origins. The rhyming pattern in the verses ranges from abcb to aabb to abab. Obviously verse 2 has gone a step further and doesn't rhyme at all here. |
Subject: ADD: Must I Go Bound (Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: macaddict01 Date: 29 Sep 09 - 03:16 AM MUST I GO BOUND (Traditional) © Arr. Buffy Sainte-Marie ^^ Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love a one would break my heart I put my finger into the bush I thought I found a lovely flower The thorn it pierced me to a touch And so I left the rose behind I leaned my back up against some oak I thought it was a trusty tree But first it bended and then it broke And so did my false love to me Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love a one would break my heart There is a ship that's sails the sea It's loaded down as deep can be But not so deep as the love I'm in I know not there if I sink or swim Oh love be gentle and love be kind Gay as a jewel when first it is new But love grows old and than grows cold And fades away like the morning dew Must I go bound and you so free Must I love one who doesn't love me Must I be born with so little art As to love a one would break my heart |
Subject: RE: Buffy St. Marie From: Susan of DT Date: 21 Aug 97 - 06:33 PM Piper - look up "Water is wide" in the DT. Buffy used the "Must I go bound..." verse as the chorus and used a different tune, but otherwise it is the same song. |
Subject: Buffy St. Marie From: piper@lava.net Date: 21 Aug 97 - 02:19 PM Folks - I'm looking for the lyrics to a song that Buffy St. Marie recorded some years back called "Must I Go Bound?" If anyone knows these lyrics I'd appreciate you e-mailing them to me at piper@lava.net all best - Paul Piper |
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