Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush

Subject: Tandragee/by the hush
From: dennis
Date: 23 Aug 97 - 11:40 PM

can anyone provide lyrics for "Boys of Tandragee" and/or "by the Hush". thanks dennis

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Alison
Date: 24 Aug 97 - 01:24 AM

Hi Dennis,

Can't help you on the lyrics, (my Irish lyrics site is playing hard to get at the moment.

It is spelt Tandragee, (a small town not too far from Belfast, and the home of Tayto Castle, where they make Tayto cheese and onion crisps...........sorry I digress.....but they are good crisps!!)

Slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Aug 97 - 05:51 PM

By the Hush is in the database, under that name. Or search for Hush

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Jon W.
Date: 25 Aug 97 - 10:35 AM

In America, would you call those Tayto chips?

Subject: Lyr Add: THE ROLLICKING BOYS AROUND TANDRAGEE ^^
From: bigj
Date: 25 Aug 97 - 07:51 PM

THE ROLLICKING BOYS AROUND TANDRAGEE

Good luck to all here now barring the cat
That sits in the corner there smelling a rat
O wheesht your philandering girls and behave
And saving you presence, I'll chant you a stave
I come from the land where the pritties grow big
And the boys neat and handy can swirl in a jig
And the girls they would charm your heart for to see
Those darling colleens around Tandragee

Chorus

So here's to the boys who are happy and gay
Singing and dancing and tearing away
Rollicksome, frollicksome, frisky and free
We're the rollicking boys around Tandragee

No doubt you have heard of Killarney I'm sure
And sweet Innishowen for a drop of the pure
Dublin's the place for the strawberry beds
And Donnybrook Fair for the cracking of heads
Have you e'er seen an Irishman dancing palltog
How he faces his partner and turns up his brog (brogue)
He shakes at the buckle and bends at the knee
They're wonderful dancers in Tandragee

Now the oul jaunting car is an elegant joult
And Derry's a place that is famed for a hoult
Among the green bushes that grow in Tyrone
And the County Fermanagh for muscle and bone
But for feasting and dancing and fun at the fair
Sure there's no one can match with the Rakes of Kildare
Green Erin's my country, the gem of the sea
But the gem of oul Ireland is Tandragee

O where is the man, either Christian or Turk
Could equal the bold Robert Emmett or Burke
O where is the lawyer can speak up like Dan
The devil another, bad luck to the one.
And where is the singer can sing like Tom Moore
Whose melodies charm all dull care from your door
But we'll beat them all yet boys, and that you will see
For we're raring fine fellows round Tandragee.

From Paddy Tunney's book 'The Stone Fiddle' where he says that he learned the song from his Uncle Mick.
Paddy sings it on the Topic LP 'A Wild Bees Nest' 12T139 ^^

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: alison
Date: 25 Aug 97 - 07:52 PM

Hi

Yes. I know they have a web site and you can order them for America. Unfortunately you can't get them sent to Australia. I'm starting to get a craving, (must get my dad to bring some over when he comes to visit.).........

Slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: bigj
Date: 25 Aug 97 - 08:05 PM

I forgot, for recorded versions of 'By the Hush' see Irish & British Songs of the Ottawa Valley by the wonderful singer O.J.Abbott on Folkways FM 4051 its also on the compilation LP Far Canadian Fields LEE 4057. Or more recent versions are on recordings by De Danann 'Anthem' Dara 013 or Frank Harte's 'Daybreak and a Candle End' Faetain SPIN 995

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Jon W.
Date: 26 Aug 97 - 01:26 PM

Another recording of By the Hush is on the "Journey Home" CD by The Woods Tea Co. It's nearly the same as the DT version.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: LaMarca
Date: 26 Aug 97 - 04:38 PM

My favorite version of "By the Hush" was recorded by Paul Brady on a compilation album called "The Gathering". He slowed the tempo down from the Canadian version, and threw the tune into a more minor/modal setting, making the song much more haunting than the rather up-tempo Canadian versions. I think De Dannaan covered Brady's version. Ian Robb and Margaret Christl recorded the Ottawa Valley version on a Folk-Legacy album, too.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: bigj
Date: 26 Aug 97 - 07:53 PM

Yup, LaMarca you're right, Brady did record it and the De Danann was a cover - both of them calling the song 'Paddy's Lamentation' though. I still reckon O.J. Abbott's is the best thogh!

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: dennis
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 11:11 PM

Thanks to all. By the way, if you haven't heard the earthy Rosin White sing them, you should. She gave me the fire to do'em.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: bigj
Date: 29 Aug 97 - 08:31 PM

If only you'd mentioned Roisin before now - she recorded 'By the Hush' on 'The First of My Rambles' a cassette for John Howson's Veteran Tapes label in 1992; the serial No is VT 126 and John has a website at [e-mail]

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Alice
Date: 29 May 00 - 10:58 PM

Just to revive this old thread with more info on recordings, John Moulden has a tape on his Ulstersongs website of "The Tunney Family", recorded in 1952. On it, Michael Gallagher sings "Tundaragee".

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: GUEST,dick greenhaus
Date: 30 May 00 - 01:00 PM

Alison-- CAMSCO does ship to OZ. We have a couple of customers there.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 30 May 00 - 06:00 PM

Ian Robb sings "By the Hush" wonderfully well on his Folk-Legacy CD (with Margaret Christl and Grit Laskin) titled The Barley Grain for Me (CD-62) - all English-language traditional songs collected in Canada. The version is the one Edith Fowke collected from O. J. Abbott in the Ottawa Valley.

Sandy

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 09 - 06:01 PM

Rosie Stewart (from --sorry not 100% myself-- co. Fermanagh or Leitrim etc!!??) was the first one I heard sing The Boys of Tandragee. I think the name of that first CD of hers is called Farewell to ______ (Dang, I have it on the shelf, I'll get it if anybody wants) ... It was a year after when I heard Roisín White's. Good girls! doin the Boys of Tandragee.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Kampervan
Date: 07 Sep 09 - 06:13 PM

Rosie Stewart's CD 'Adieu to Lovely Garrison' does indeed include the song 'Tandragee' which she got from the singing of Paddy Tunney.

Fabulous version from a fantastic singer.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: ard mhacha
Date: 08 Sep 09 - 07:19 AM

Two for the price of one, Tommy Makem singing The dalin` men from Crossmaglen and Tandragee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb28nr074D0

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: Catamariner
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 08:19 PM

Tunney wrote in The Stone Fiddle that in Rollicking Boys Around Tandragee, ".. a good-humoured swipe is made at quite a few sacred cows.... 'That', he [the singer] maintained, 'is the satire to slay all stage-Irishmen!'" People frequently don't "get" why this is so satirical. Here's the story:

I met a teacher at the Sean-nós NW Traditional Irish Festival in April 2019, and wound up taking a class with him afterward. Tandragee is one of the song examples he gave of a modern (post 1800) ballad composed to annoy and satirize a particular group. Tandragee (formerly known as Tanderagee) was in the old days famous in Ireland for having very straight-laced attitudes toward things like singing and dancing, not to mention pubs (this was back in the mid-late 1800s). So the song was composed to annoy the heck out of the straight-laced citizenry of Tandragee; it's not just "stage Irishmen" who would be slain by the level of satire.

Subject: RE: tandaragee/by the hush
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 08:29 PM

Here's O. J. Abbot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-SmC30bt4A

I really prefer that to the versions that turn it into a dirge, which takes away from the wonderful black humour.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 06:45 AM

listen to Paddy Tunney- good advice at any time!

mentioning 'Tanderagee' by The Hush' is a bit like when I was asked to play 'Sally Gardens' by Sharon Shannon?

We can just hope that people will want to dig a bit deeper- I've no idea if the Hush credit their sources, but that could be helpful in deepening knowledge of source singers?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 10:14 PM

Guest, that's hilarious. Intentional or not?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 22 Feb 20 - 04:02 AM

Sssshhhh! ??

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush
From: GUEST,patriot (irish)
Date: 23 Feb 20 - 06:13 AM

Guest of Feb 20 makes a good point- what's so funny about it?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tandragee + By the Hush
From: meself
Date: 23 Feb 20 - 02:53 PM

Huh?