Subject: Lyr Add: MAIRZY DOATS From: Date: 21 Sep 97 - 01:49 PM Since "the Balkanization" Dick G. referred to, and Tim J. deplored, was, at least originally, my fault, I propose a "kinder, gentler" song circle of reunification. Here we shall have only sweetness and light, worthy sentiments, camaraderie and fellowship. We'll begin with a group sing of some dear old songs, listed below, and proceed to let each, in turn, offer up a personal contribution. Group sing (feel free to expand the list):
1. Because All Men Are Brothers MAIRZY DOATS
I know a ditty, nutty as a fruitcake,
Mairzy doats and dozy doats,
Well if the words sound queer,
Oh! Mairzy doats and dozy doats,
Whailzy deals and sealzy deals
Well if the words sound queer,
A whale will eat oysters too, Hope this restores a more courteous, congenial, convivial atmosphere! (Also hope others will have the courage to risk adding "sentimental stuff" from their own collections.) Shalom, Shula |
Subject: Lyr Add: DIDDLE DIDDLE or THE KIND COUNTRY LOVERS From: Bruce Date: 21 Sep 97 - 02:20 PM I'm sure #6 will get us off on the right foot. Here is an early version.
Diddle, Diddle. Tune of Lavender green, &c.
Lavender's green, didle, didle
My hostesse maid, diddle, diddle
That she may drink Diddle, diddle,
Some to make Hay, diddle, diddle,
James at the George, Diddle, diddle
I heard a bird Diddle, diddle
Down in a Dale Diddle, diddle
Where they did play Diddle, diddle Oft have I been Diddle diddle
I will be kind Diddle, diddle
London, Printed for F. Coles, T. Vere, J. Wright, and J. Clarke. [1674-1679] |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Bruce Date: 21 Sep 97 - 02:37 PM P.S. Let's see your "Comin thro' the Rye". |
Subject: Lyr Add: AR FOL LOL LOL O From: Alice Date: 21 Sep 97 - 04:46 PM Here's one I like to lead for group sings, and since I learned it as a child from Clancy Bros. records, I was amazed at how few people know it now. Anyway, here goes.
Ar Fol Lol Lol O
chorus
l. There's lilt in the song I sing, there's laughter and love.
chorus
2. And whether the blood be highland, lowland, or no.
chorus Alice in Montana |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 21 Sep 97 - 04:57 PM Dear Alice, (Didn't see your post before I sent mine.) Yes! Now That's the ticket! Merci beaucoup! Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 21 Sep 97 - 05:48 PM I know I just posted one, but here is another song of worthy sentiments: "Believe Me, If All Those Endearing Young Charms", words by Thomas Moore. ...
"Oh, the heart that has truly loved never forgets, Alice in Montana |
Subject: Lyr Add: COMIN' THRO' THE RYE and LADYBUG AND... From: Shula Date: 22 Sep 97 - 12:16 PM Dear Bruce, Turns out I've got TWO "Comin' Thro' The Rye"'s! There's the one from Bobby Burns, via my grandfather, about "Jenny's draighl't petticoatie," all but the last verse of which is in the DT. Checked my Burns and the last verse is truly his, so here it is (Dick, this really should be added to the DT, methinks!):
Gin a body meet a body Then there's the one I learned in elementary school, (which is the one of which I was thinking when I made the "starter" list), whose origins are unknown to me: COMIN' THRO' THE RYE
Gin a body meet a body, comin' thro' th' Rye.
Gin a body meet a body, comin' frae th' toon; So, Bruce, if you're checking anyway, could you give us any additional information you might have? Thanks. Dear fellow participants, Don't want to hog this thread, but I recalled a charming little song about an enterprising, problem-solving, newly married ladybug, and couldn't find it in the DT. Hope it'll turn up the corners of everyone's lips, (wish I could share the catchy tune, too!): THE LADYBUG AND THE CENTIPEDE
Oh, the ladybug and the centipede got married;
Oh, the ladybug thought the cricket's voice was gentle,
On their wedding night, they called each other, "Darlin;'"
Next day the centipede he came home early, (rabbit!), (This is the version sung by Leon Bibb.) Cute, nu? Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Bruce Date: 22 Sep 97 - 12:21 PM See a version of "Coming thro' the Rye" in DT. 'kiss' was a common 17th and 18th century euphemism for sexual intercourse. E.g., "Some say that kissing's a sin", descended from a 17th century broadside ballad.
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 22 Sep 97 - 12:36 PM Bruce, Where does the version NOT FROMBurns come from? Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Bruce Date: 22 Sep 97 - 01:20 PM Burns' song is in 'Scots Musical Museum', #417 (1796). With 1st verse and chorus switched around it is in DT. It is not quite clear where the another version, SMM #418, came from. There is a more explict version in 'The Merry Muses of Caledonia' (1799) where one verse of six goes:
Gin a body meet a body,
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Bruce Date: 22 Sep 97 - 01:59 PM I forgot to add that there are 8 lines, unfortunately not reprinted, commencing "Jennys a' wet, poor body", in the Mansfield/St. Clair MS, c 1770-1790. The tune citation there is "The Miller's daughter" rather than "The Miller's Wedding" (same tune but different title from that cited by Burns). At least one editor has taken Burns' song to be a polite revision of that in 'The Merry Muses.'
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Wkailey Date: 22 Sep 97 - 03:10 PM Has anyone out there heard of Priscilla Herdman? She records childrens songs, many of which are very much in the innocent vain you are discussing here. I wish I knew where I could buy any of her albums, as well as similar stuff. Here is a part of her "Waltzing with bears."
I went up to his room in the middle of the night,
He goes wa wa wa wa wa waltzing with bears Etc. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE LADYBUG AND THE CENTIPEDE From: Shula Date: 22 Sep 97 - 03:54 PM Dear Walt, Love the lyrics so far, please post the rest! (And more like it, if you've got 'em!) Reposting this so folks that want a copy don't have to take out all those dad-burned exclamation points: THE LADYBUG AND THE CENTIPEDE
Oh, the ladybug and the centipede got married;
Oh, the ladybug thought the cricket's voice was gentle,
On their wedding night, they called each other, "Darlin;"
Next day the centipede he came home early, (rabbit!), (This version sung by Leon Bibb.) Hope it stays put this time! Dear Bruce, This is the "makin' nice" thread, not the "makin' whoopee" thread. We let the small fry into this one. Bet there's hardly a grown soul here that doesn't know the euphemisms! If ya wanta talk trash, go hang in the tree house with the rest of the hooligans, or start up a thread o' your own with The title: "Warning: some content unsuitable for tender ears." You'll have to take the flack -- not to mention the filth that follows. (Know some nasty stuff myself; don't like to put it on public display, ... necessarily.) Only milk 'n' honey 'n' treacle served here, if ya please, sir! Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Sep 97 - 04:25 PM Sally Rogers sings a couple of songs that just make me melt. Both are in the database, but I think we sometimes miss something in our discussion here if we don't furnish at least partial quotes of the songs we discuss. One is Bob Franke's "Thanksgiving Eve." For some reason, I've had trouble mastering the tune. I'm the only one I know who knows it, and I haven't quite been able to teach it. The words are beautiful, though: What can you do with your days but work and hope? The other I like even better, especially the time I heard Faith Petric sing it - "It's a Pleasure to Know You," by Karl Williams. It's a pleasure to know you, I think both of these songs are apropos for the nice folks who gather here. Wish we could all sing together. I think we'd sound wonderful, and I'm sure we'd melt a few hearts. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Wkailey Date: 22 Sep 97 - 04:26 PM Shula, here's some more of Waltzing with Bears
Mom bought Uncle Walter a new suit to wear Chorus
I told Uncle Walter that he should be good Chorus In the last verse, the narrator herself goes waltzing with bears, but I can't remember all of it right now. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Jon W. Date: 22 Sep 97 - 05:15 PM I checked into some Klezmer music a few months ago (or should I say I checked it out from the library) - "In the Fiddler's House" by a famous violinist (Itzhak Perlman?). There was a song "Alle Brider" (All Brothers) that seems to belong in this thread. Lyrics, Shula, Rechal, or anyone? |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Catfeet Date: 22 Sep 97 - 06:27 PM Someone beat me to it, but I can still help with all of the verses to Waltzing with bears.
Chorus: Wa Wa Wa, Wa Wa Wa Waltzing with bears,
V1: I went upstairs in the middle of the night,
V2: I gave uncle Walter a new coat to wear,
V3: We told uncle Walter that he should be good,
V4: We begged and we pleaded, "Oh, please won't you stay!" Catfeet |
Subject: Lyr Add: ALEH BRIDER (Yiddish) From: Shula Date: 22 Sep 97 - 07:02 PM Dear Jon W., Didn't post this before because the whole cut is more than twelve minutes long, and the best part is the prolonged klezmer instrumental, during which the audience is urged to get up and dance a rousing hora up and down the aisles. The words, like those of many "secular Jewish" (yes, I know that OUGHT to be considered an oxymoron), compositions, are determinedly pedestrian, as if trying to adandon biblical poetics as well as theology, but they do have a certain plain, robust charm, especially when companioned with such engaging music. The lyrics are based on Morris Winchevsky's poem, "Achdus," meaning "Brotherhood."
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Subject: Lyr Add: MY FATHER'S OLD SOU'WESTER From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 22 Sep 97 - 07:40 PM Waltzing With Bears is in the database. I know because I got a copy some time ago. I have heard different attributions as to who wrote it. I was also told it was based on Dr. Seuss but I can't remember the poem. Here's a Newfie song I like as a kid. MY FATHER'S OLD SOU'WESTER
Memory often brings me back To when I was but a lad,
Chorus: My father's old sou'wester, He wore in days gone by
He wore it every Sunday He never liked a cap (Chorus again)
If that old hat could only speak What stories it would tell (Chorus again)
And now he's dead and laid to rest He'll wear it nevermore (Chorus again |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: rechal Date: 22 Sep 97 - 08:18 PM Awww...I've been so busy lately that I haven't been able to read many posts lately. Here's my contribution, courtesy of Sandy and Caroline Paton:
This is a song
Not very long
The words aren't fresh
The tune isn't new
It's just a song
Not very long
To say I'm glad
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Subject: Lyr Add: A HAND FOR A HAND From: Shula Date: 22 Sep 97 - 10:01 PM Dear all, Maybe I'm just gettin' sentimental in my dotage, but this is definitely becoming my favorite thread. Like 'em all, even Bruce's naughty one. Many thanks! This song may be imperfectly remembered, and is from a most unlikely source (but from not me or from anyone I know). Just for fun, I'll let ya'll guess at it before I tell you. Comes under the category of, "if it ain't a folk'song, it oughta be!" (Wouldn't we all go home from this sing a'hummin'!) A HAND FOR A HAND
A hand for a hand was planned for the world:
A hand for a hand was planned for the world: Keep 'em comin'! Shula
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Subject: Lyr Add: GUMBOOT CLOGGEROO (Stompin' Tom Connors) From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 22 Sep 97 - 11:35 PM Some of you may have heard Stompin' Tom do this song with k. d. lang's band on CBC some years ago. If you didn't, it's a merry uptempo song and dance. Gum boots are the large rubber boots that commercial fishermen wear on-board when working with the fish, although the name is sometimes used to denote those same rubber boots which the English call Wellies. By the sound of it the dance is in PEI.
THE GUMBOOT CLOGGEROO
Oh! we sailed away at the break of day
Gimme fish and brewis, and qua-hog stew
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 22 Sep 97 - 11:49 PM Further explanations to Gumboot Cloggeroo, for non-Canadians, which I should have put with the original post: Fish and brewis -- an Eastern Canadian dish, mostly eaten in Newfoundland. Bluenoser -- Nova Scotian Herring-choker -- New Brunswicker Newfie Screech -- a kind of foul black Newfoundland rum, so named by American servicemen stationed there during WWII. Qua-hog (pronounced KO-hog)-- a kind of thick-shelled harbour clam, with the texture of a radial tire and fit only for stews that have been long a-stewing, or feeding tough-jawed cats. Tracadie -- an Acadian town in New Brunswick. Stompin' Tom -- a Canadian legend. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE MOON (Robert Louis Stevenson) From: Wkailey Date: 23 Sep 97 - 03:35 PM DT wasn't working just now, so I couldn't check and see if the last verse of Waltzing with bears is there. Catfeet omitted the last one that Priscilla Herdman sings. It goes
But last night when the moon rose we crept down the stairs. Also couldn't check the DT for this one, which PH calls simply "The Moon" [by Robert Louis Stevenson]:
The moon has a face like the clock in the hall
Chorus: But all of the things that belong to the day
The squalling cat and the squeaking mouse, Chorus Return to first verse. Anyone know anymore verses to this pretty little song? |
Subject: Lyr Add: BEAUTIFUL ISLE OF SOMEWHERE (Pounds/Feari From: Shula Date: 23 Sep 97 - 04:33 PM Posting (with a "P") this here for Sara, because it looks nice in this grouping. (Already in DT, but it's a slow afternoon.)
BEAUTIFUL ISLE OF SOMEWHERE
Somewhere the sun is shining,
cho: Somewhere, Somewhere, Beautiful Isle of Somewhere!
Somewhere the day is longer,
Somewhere the load is lifted, Words by Mrs. Jessie Brown Pounds Music by J.S. Fearis copyright 1897 and 1901 by E.O. Excell. This funeral song was sung by a four-part women's choir at the memorial service for President McKinley. CIose harmony songs like this were very popular in those days. filename[ BEAUTISL CB apr96 Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: dani Date: 23 Sep 97 - 11:25 PM Am on my way to bed, but wanted to let you know: Wkailey, I have some Priscilla Herdman stuff... it's my favorite for lullabyes! Will try to post tomorrow more info for you. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 24 Sep 97 - 01:10 AM I had almost the entirety of the English folk song The Herring's Head written into the slot, when my computer froze and I lost the works.:(:(:(:( The muse had left me now, and I really must ditch this PC and buy a Mac. . . |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: dani Date: 24 Sep 97 - 12:44 PM I love The Moon. PH says the tune came to her when she was pregnant with her daughter, and it was one of the first songs her daughter learned. The words are from Robert Louis Stevenson's "A Child's Garden of Verse", which, grown-up that I am, I am the proud new owner of. PH's music is widely available - good toy stores such as Zany Brainy are a good bet. For more info on her, look here: http://www.mindspring.com/~rlhess/music/ph__000.htm
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Mike M Date: 25 Sep 97 - 11:25 AM Don't know if it's exactly what y'all are looking for, but "When you and I were young, Maggie" in ANY of its versions is the sweetest, most sentimental song I know. If you would rather something sentimental but up-tempo I would suggest "Dance to your Daddy" as a fast (but loving) song. "When thou art a man, free to take a wife, thou shall find a maiden, love her all thy life. She shall be thy lassie, thou shall be her man, dance to your daddy my little man." Mike |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Songster Bob Date: 26 Sep 97 - 10:57 AM Well, about the third time I heard "Waltzing with Bears," which is NOT based on the Dr. Suess poem, by the way, I couldn't help myself: My Uncle Walter's not right in the head, He's been that way all his life, my mother said. It's not that he's violent, or falls down the stairs, It's just he goes waltzing, Wah-wah-wah-waltzing, It's just he goes waltzing, Waltzing with bears. It actually makes a pretty good introductory verse for the whole song, so that the "tiptoed" verse now makes more sense. Whatever, if I knew it, I'd add the rousing "When All Men Sing" (PC'd to "When We All Sing") to the song circle. It's on a very good Johnny Collins recording, though I don't remember which one. Perhaps on "Peddlar of Songs." Highly recommended. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Whippoorwill Date: 26 Sep 97 - 03:21 PM Shula: I've been off a few days, and just discovered your "Mairzy Doats. I'd never heard the second verse - loved it! But have you heard the country version? Cowzy day and goatzy day This kid would much rather eat a donut than ivy, or oysters, for that matter. Speaking of centipedes: |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 26 Sep 97 - 05:02 PM Mike, may grandfather McConnell played fiddle, and my grandmother Maggie McConnell played guitar and piano and sang along with him. He used to sing "When You And I Were Young, Maggie" to her. He was a prospector, and the last claim he lived on, where he died on the Yellowstone River, was called the Maggie and Me. I didn't know this until years after his death and the claim site was turned into a forest service river access called McConnell River Access (it is near Gardiner, MT). I was walking along the river there where I used to play in the sand bank under the trees, and found an old flattened out tin can nailed to a tree. With a nail, he had punched holes that spelled out Maggie and Me Claim. Alice in Montana |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: JMike Date: 29 Sep 97 - 10:31 AM Alice: That is a beautiful story! I have had a number of people tell me they thought the song was hokey until they really listened to it. It's one of those songs like "Danny Boy" which can't ever quite become a cliche because a good performance brings back all the freshness. Much gratitude for your sharing. (This really IS the lovingkindness circle...) PS The name change is due to the personal page/registry business JMike = Mike (The "J" is silent) |
Subject: To dani and Shula From: Wkailey Date: 29 Sep 97 - 01:55 PM Dani, thanks a lot for the info. It is truly pathetic the kind of miserable to nonexistent selection of folk music that is available in all our record stores here in Denver. But I never heard of a Brainy Zany, and we don't have any toy stores out here except Toys R Us, which has just been taken over by the Baby Superstore (which I am fond of calling the Baby SS). I guess you've got to live somewhere with a little bit of culture, like the Twin Cities, where I grew up, to have this kind of stuff available (that's where the one tape I have came from)--that is, if they haven't entirely ruined it yet with abominations like the acursed Mall of America. But I digress away from lovingkindness. My apologies to all. Shula, the kid referred to in that ditty (which, I believe, was actually on the pop music charts at some point in the late forties or early fifties) is a baby goat, not a human child! But maybe you were joking about kids eating ivy &c. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Jack Date: 29 Sep 97 - 03:59 PM I have to add James Taylor's Close Your Eyes (its in the DT). I have a personal memory of holding my 12-hour-old first-born son while listening to that song on the tape player we had with us at the hospital. I will always think of it as "our" song. Jack |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Jack Date: 29 Sep 97 - 04:00 PM I have to add James Taylor's Close Your Eyes (its in the DT). I have a personal memory of holding my 12-hour-old first-born son while listening to that song on the tape player we had with us at the hospital. I will always think of it as "our" song. Jack |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 29 Sep 97 - 05:28 PM Dear Jack, Am so glad you added this! Ought to be in the Lullabye thread, too, I reckon. Good thing songs are not like sculpture or paintings, or you'd have to fend off quite a crowd to lay claim to "You Can Close Your Eyes." When we started our family songbook, this was the top song on all our children's lists. While I might wish them a favorite with a better literary pedigree, this was the song my kids all wanted sung to them EVERY night. (My oldest son also wanted "Sweet Baby James.") At our house, YCCYE is called, "Sun Is Surely(should this be "slowly"?) Sinkin' Down," because I always sang it without the article at the beginning of the first two lines, to smooth it into an even more soothing lullabye. BTW, have you ever seen the life-savers commercial where the little boy and his Dad watch the sun set and then the lad turns to his father with unsullied trust and says,"Do it again, Daddy!" Seems just made to fit this song, eh? Thanks, again.
Dear Wkailey, It was Whippoorwill, not I, who referred to himself as "this kid." I realize that this was once a "pop" song, but as Whip. has provided us with a delightful "country" verse, it seems this song is truly gettin' "folk-i-fied"! (Whippoorwill: My doughnut-loving spouse asks me to convey his gratitude to Whippoorwill for the addition.) Need to tell you that "Waltzing With Bears" has become the new household fav. here, and that's before we even have the tune! (MIDI or other sound file, anyone?) If the tune is as delicious as the words, we will quite content ourselves. In same vein, wish I could provide tune to "The Ladybug and the Centipede," which may antedate the song, and is affectionately charming.
Dear Everyone Else, Ah! T'is sweet! There are so many riches here, so many life-affirming songs, that one might only wish the flow to continue unimpeded! Wasn't Alice's story a gem? Jack's shared memory a joy? Why is it that songs of rage, sorrow and disaster seem to get the jucier glosses? Think THIS is just the thread for Oral Historical Embellishment! Life is short; let others curse the darkness. May the candles lit here burn bright and warm! May this thread live long and prosper!
In appreciation,
Shula
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 29 Sep 97 - 05:59 PM Waltzing With Bears does have a nice tune -- a waltz, of course! |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 29 Sep 97 - 06:03 PM Somewhere in my desk I have the sheet music to Waltzing With Bears, so if you e-mail me with a snail I can send it to you, Shula. Desk needs a cleaning out anyway. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 29 Sep 97 - 06:38 PM Found it. Seems the one in the database has a couple of errors: 1. the chorus has one "waltzing" too many after "wa-wa-wa-wa-wa". It would be hard to sing with the extra "waltzing". 2. My sheet music doesn't say anything about Dr. Suess. It merely says "Words and Music by Dale Marxen, as sung by Robbie Clement". Shula if you have a fax no I'll fax it to you, if you wish. It has the chords for guitar too.
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 29 Sep 97 - 07:26 PM Dear Tim Jaques, Bless you 'n' your'n! FAX # by e-mail momentarily. Plum tickled! Merci!
Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Catfeet Date: 29 Sep 97 - 08:14 PM A little info on Waltzing with Bears. The man who wrote it, when he finished, was certain that he'd heard it somewhere or read it to one of his children a long time ago. He then petitioned the library of congress to make sure that it wasn't "a Dr. Seuss book". He got the all clear from that estimed establisment and published the thing, and we've all been singing it ever since. (The story as I heard it at a Tommy Makem concert) Catfeet |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: dbonnici Date: 29 Sep 97 - 08:41 PM Hello there Wassup |
Subject: Lyr Add: LOVE'S OLD SWEET SONG From: Alice Date: 30 Sep 97 - 02:00 AM I looked in the DT and couldn't find this, but of COURSE it belongs on this thread:
LOVE'S OLD SWEET SONG
Once in the dear dead days beyond recall,
refrain
Even today we hear love's song of yore, Big group hug to all you mudcats... Alice in Montana
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Frank Phillips Date: 30 Sep 97 - 01:08 PM Tim My copy of New Folk Favorites says the same thing about Dale Marxen and Robbie Clement. It has a bio of Robbie but not of Dale. Joe When I decided to get serious about this singing hobby about 3 years ago I took an evening course from our local School Board. Our instructor is (among other things) a folk music enthusiast and one of the tunes he used was Thanksgiving Eve. It was my favorite song of the course. I prefer Garnet Rogers' version since I sing down in that range (and lower). I also have a Bob Franke CD with a third verse which I don't like as well as the first 2. (Just a personal thing.) All While I'm on the subject of Bob Franke, Do you think "The Great Storm is Over" fits in with this thread. I absolutely refuse to sing the chorus at anything less than full volume because it seems so triumphant. This makes it kind but NOT gentle. Frank |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Jack (who is calle jack) Date: 30 Sep 97 - 04:57 PM Frank, The Great Storm is Over definitely fits this thread. My wife and I sing it, but usually not at full volume. She's incredibly sentimental and always cries by the last verse. A great writer of songs for this thread is Joel Mabus. He does one called "A better voice" that I'll see if I can transcribe. Alice in Montana, Love's Old Sweet Song! What a great choice! What a great chorus for singing. Thanks and hugs back at ya. Best Regards Jack |
Subject: Waltzing w/Bears & Priscilla Herdman From: Wkailey Date: 30 Sep 97 - 06:08 PM Shula, I recommend the Priscilla Herdman recording of this song very emphatically. Any kid between the ages of about two and six is bound to fall in love with not only the song but PH's voice and the instrumental background and everything about this recording. Someone up above said that PH's music is widely available in toy stores, so you might find a recording if you keep your eye peeled. I'm sorry to keep reverting to old subjects, but when it comes to lovingkindness, I think that PH has few equals both in her selection and her style, so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to plug her a little bit, if only in the selfish hope that her increased popularity will heighten the quantity and availability of her recordings. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 30 Sep 97 - 07:40 PM Dear Wkailey, Am convinced! Will endeavor to obtain PH CD, earliest opportunity. Thanks again for a wonderful song. So glad I started this'un. Never know what the net 'll fetch 'til y' fling it!
Dear Tim, My fellow GS leader, Speed-1, and I are most grateful for your FAX. Thanks, again! And YES, we would LOVE a copy of the Newfie book. Merci, BEAUCOUP!
Posies t'ye,
Shula |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 30 Sep 97 - 07:44 PM I'll post a lullaby, and a rather strange one, but in keeping with a recent suggestion I will put it separately in a new thread. When I can find Cape Breton Lullaby I will post the lyrics to that too. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Oct 97 - 02:37 AM Shula - the only problem I have with Priscilla Herdman is deciding which of her CD's to recommend. Her 'Daydreamer"(1993) and "Stardreamer"(1988) are great chiildren's albums, and "The Water Lily"(1977) is an interesting collection of Australian songs. The others are "Seasons of Change" (1983), "Darkness into Light" (1987), and "Forever and Always (1994). I suppose a purist could complain that she does too many singer-songwriter songs,. Darn it, they're GOOD songs, even if the songwriters have names. and she's got a great voice. I guess I'd say she's my favorite female folk singer, although Sally Rogers runs a close second. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: PH-Stardreamer From: Wkailey Date: 01 Oct 97 - 03:19 PM Stardreamer has Waltzing With Bears. Joe, since you have all her stuff, perhaps you know an address where one can write to order through the mail? Well, enough of this. Time for a new song. What about Mountains O' Mourn. I learned it from Don McLean's Playin' Favorites album, which is all folk music and blue grass and therefore by far the best of McLean's albums (in my humble opinion). To my surprise (I just checked) it's not in the DT. Here's the bit I can remember.
She lives far away o'er the mountains . . . /
And she said, "My dear boy, don't forget me, Another pretty song off the same album that also fits our mood here is Mountains of Mourne. That is in the DT. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 01 Oct 97 - 08:08 PM Don MacLean of American Pie fame? "Starry, Starry Night" is a lovely song and fit for a Loving Kindness folk collection. |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Oct 97 - 02:12 AM Wkailey, the only CD vendor I like to recommend is Folk Legacy, because they're so nice. They have lots of good folk music, and lean toward traditional, New England, and Canadian stuff. They're at www.folklegacy.com, but it's better to call them at (800)836-0901 and hope they've got time to chat a bit. Owners Sandy and Caroline Paton often answer the phone. They are musicians themselves, and they recorded many of the label's early records in the field, finding the best unknown performers all over the English-speaking world. You can order all the adult Herdman albums at www.rounder.com - Rounder owns the Flying Fish and Philo labels Priscilla Herdman records on. Besides, there are RealAudio samples available at Rounder. But I have to admit that the only place that has all the CD's and that has the best prices is CD Now, www.cdnow.com. Their delivery is quick, and they ship internationally. But I have to make another plug for Folk Legacy. The four Bok-Muir-Trickett albums and the four "Golden Ring" albums certainly fit well into the "Lovingkindness thread. And if you order ten CD's, you get a substantial discount. -Joe Offer- Folk Legacy Rounder- CD Now |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 02 Oct 97 - 12:49 PM Joe, I agree about Folk Legacy. I e-mailed them with a question and got a very friendly and informative response. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE LOG DRIVER'S WALTZ (Wade Hemsworth) From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Oct 97 - 09:48 AM Here is a happy song or waltz recorded by Stringband, from Toronto, as well as by its author Wade Helmsworth, who presently has a CD of his works on the market. In Canada, there used to be a cartoon shown on television as a "filler" wherein this song was sung and illustrated.
Stringband said "If Wade Helmsworth were American he'd be a national hero. However, he is Canadian."
THE LOG DRIVER'S WALTZ |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Oct 97 - 09:51 AM Almost have the hang of it. There should have been a break after the second (chorus). The chorus is the one that begins "For he goes burling down. . ." |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 29 Apr 99 - 01:53 PM refresh for Love's Old Sweet Song lyrics request. alice |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Susan A-R Date: 29 Apr 99 - 11:43 PM Let's see, there's "The Dutchman" by Michael Smith (?) The Bluebird Song, (have no idea who wrote it, it's about counting bluebirds. One, you'll have sadness, two, you'll have joy, Three, get a present, four, get a boy, Five, receive silver, six, receive gold, Seven. a secret that's never been told, Eight, a love letter with promises three, Nine means a true love as true as can be.
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Subject: Lyr Add: LORD OF ALL HOPEFULNESS From: Joe Offer Date: 30 Apr 99 - 03:40 AM I think we need to continue this circle now, what with all the bad news we've been hearing. Here's one especially dedicated to Catspaw: LORD OF ALL HOPEFULNESS |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: katlaughing Date: 14 Aug 00 - 11:40 PM refresh, again, some lovely sentiments and songs.... |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 15 Aug 00 - 05:52 PM aaahh.... one of my favorite old threads |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 03 May 01 - 09:29 PM I refreshed this last year in August, but no one else was inclined to pick up on the thread again. This thread is what mudcat used to be for me.
From Thomas Moore, "As a beam o'er the face of the waters may glow, Alice |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: wysiwyg Date: 03 May 01 - 09:42 PM Welcome back, Shula. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: GUEST,Dancing Mom Date: 03 May 01 - 10:24 PM This is wonderful stuff, a great resource. I've been looking for songs of a loving, spiritual nature to sing. This has been helpful. Sharon |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 04 May 01 - 02:30 AM Dear Folks,
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: wysiwyg Date: 04 May 01 - 03:12 AM Yes? *G* ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Shula Date: 04 May 01 - 06:33 AM Dear Folks, I wrote an entire note up there -- honest to Gosh! Poltergeists, p'raps? I wanted to say how glad I am to be back at the 'Cat, and how delighted I am to see this friendly old thread refreshed -- what a thoughtful welcome! Since so many of you have been very gracious in asking after my health, I'll tell you about it here. I don't want to start another thread with my own name on it, and all my old chums are likely to find me lounging about this thread I started so long ago, anyway. I "still" have dilated congestive cardiomyopathy; when a virus "eats" part of your heart, it doesn't regenerate, you just manage as well as you can for as long as you can. Sometimes I am pretty sick, other times I can sustain the illusion of normalcy for several hours at a time. I was too sick for awhile to post regularly, and then, quite unexpectedly, I had a nice hiatus for almost a year, when I was feeling well enough to get about and do "regular" things, if I didn't push too hard. I didn't spend much time on the computer at all then, because it was so nice to be up and around. But that wasn't the main reason I have been so long away. My mother-in-law and my father both passed away during the last year and a half. Settling their affairs took up most of Akiba's and my energies. These weren't tragic or unexpected deaths; both my dad, and Akiba's mom were elderly and ill. In my father's case, his passing was a blessing. He had lung and throat cancer, and was expected to live a few more wretched, pain-filled months, when he died peacefully in his sleep. Akiba's mom was eighty-eight, widowed and very frail; she had simply finished living. both of them left a lot of things to take care of, however, and we aren't done with all the minutiae even now. We planned the funerals, ourselves. Since Akiba is a convert, and my father wasn't Jewish, we were each in the odd position having to devise a Christian service for our deceased parent, in spite of being Jews, ourselves. I am considering posting to the "Melting Pot Muddles" thread about that. I also think it might be nice, since this is a music site, to start a thread about the musical choices in funeral services. We did some nice things, I think. Wouldn't it be nice to gather many such stories into a helpful musical resource for other Mudcatters who are preparing funeral services for loved ones? (I hope that doesn't sound too maudlin. I know I would have liked such a ready-made set of suggestions as I went about doing this necessary office to honour our parents.) Again, I am touched that so many of you remember me -- an so pleasantly, too -- 'tis a wonder! I have missed you; it is nice to come home. Shalom, Shula
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: Alice Date: 04 May 01 - 09:18 AM I don't have time to make the links right now, but if you type "funeral" into the forum search box, here are some of the previous threads that come up on the topic:
What song do you want at your funeral?
Singing thu the tears- how?
Tune Req: Your favorite WAKE tunes and Songs
Bagpipes at funerals
BS: Your own funeral
Funeral tunes, songs that heal
Help: Funeral Song
Good to see you hear again, Shula. Alice
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Subject: RE: Lovingkindness Song Circle From: maeve Date: 07 Jan 07 - 10:28 AM Here's a lovely old thread. Perhaps it fills a need now, as well, so... refresh! |
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