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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Max
Date: 15 Dec 00 - 08:34 PM

Here is an unmodified excerpt of Mudcat Radio that is absolutely everything we said that night about Brendy and Praise. Nowhere in it does anyone tell anyone to leave.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Dec 00 - 07:01 PM

Mudcat is a self-policing community to a great extent, but actually I think of it as a self-correcting mechanism. Over time, I guess, the peaks and valleys balance out for the SYSTEM of members, but not necessariy for each of us as INDIVIDUALS. For some of us, by the time the backlashes and pendulum swings reach a moment of stasis once again, it's just too hard to be here. For example, Max and I are in communication now, but Joe's quote of what he must have felt Max meant was just the last straw, and it was going to come eventually. Joe and I continue to correspond, as well; I decided to choose between friend and forum, in a way. We went around and around, and neither of us bailed out before we'd each had our full say. I guess it will sound patronizing but I was proud of him.

But for more reasons that I can say or count, it was a mistake to come back last week. My mistake, no one else's. (Altho it was good to get on a better footing with Kat again.) But I listened to the urgency of people who felt that they needed me to be here in some way, instead of my own seasoned and educated judgment.

I don't get that urgency, BTW. I was supposed to be the persistent proselytizer, but here I was, flooded with people telling me what to do, geel, see, think.... "for my own good." I was pretty definite that I wanted to leave it as "Nuff said," and wouldn't you expect that would kinda do it? People SAID it was just that they missed me but in between the lines, in many cases, there was another note of need. I am as available as I ever was, in e-mail.

I guess I would say, if you miss whatever you thought I contributed here, CONTRIBUTE IT. Not, good Lord, in MY name, but in your own, or in our Lord's. That's mostly where my touch came from anyway, you must realize that? If you appreciated me enough to miss me, then you understood what I was saying about life well enough to start saying it yourself, in your own way.

So you are each officially granted all the rights and privileges hereunto, if you don't already know you don't need anyone's permission to love people outrageously.


As I wrote in the PEARL OF GREAT PRICE thread, I have been to a lot of forums (fora) in the last month, and I like a few of them the same way I liked Mudcat. Maybe not exactly the same, or as much, or for the identical reasons, but it doesn't hurt to be there. In some ways, the topics and structures there fit me better than here. (What a relief to not hold back anynmore.) Wish me well, as I am finally in a calm place about this.

What I am learning about sites has let me see the Mudcat in a very new way, too. I see its strengths more clearly than ever, but I see its growing pains more clearly too, and I am writing to Joe and Max about this.

I am heartily sorry for causing confusion by having started this thread when, for a few days, I actually thought I could still be a member here. I imagine that after some time has passed, I will drop in from time to time as a guest and I will be open about who I am when I do. I may visit PalTalk one of these days if the smoke damage to my computer ever lets me get there with the Mac I'd just had delivered. And I'd love to know, in e-mail, about any gatherings I can get to. Of course I welcome any news of what people are doing, too, or thinking about.

I would ask that any of you who have posted to this thread and keep looking at would please convey for me that I am not going to need a new name, and that I am always glad to be a friend to Mudcat and Mudcatters, from e-mail or anywhere else, and please do feel free to give my e-mail address to people. You don't need to ask me first. I have good filters, if any problems come up.

And Bert, you lil devil, I need a favor. Please see to it that my membership is deleted, so that when people who don't know about this PM me for some kind of help later on, they get a message letting them know I am not getting thier message. An error message or something? So that if they see my membername on an old post and PM me, they don't think I just don't care to reply? I asked Max, and I know he is busy.

Thank you all for your encouragement and caring. Let's talk about something OTHER than Mudcat, Mudcat, and MORE Mudcat, when we *meet* again. Best thing you could do for me, and for this whole situation, OK? And pray, if that's what you do.


Shall we let Dharmabum go ahead with the wake and give me a good sendoff then?


~Susan Hinton

motormice@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bert
Date: 15 Dec 00 - 04:13 PM

Max said nothing of the sort.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Matt_R
Date: 15 Dec 00 - 04:05 PM

Um, did any of you read Praise's post from 13-Dec-00 - 08:38 PM ?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 15 Dec 00 - 07:59 AM

Praise. A Rose By Any Other Name Is Still A Rose. Nuff said? Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jim Krause
Date: 14 Dec 00 - 02:55 PM

Uh, Prause, did I start something by switching from Soddy to Jim Krause? (wondering if I should be so bold as to flatter myself with such a compliment, it is to laugh)

Hang it up and stick with Praise unless you really, really are going through some cyberidentity crisis.
Jim


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: GUEST,Mary in Kentucky
Date: 14 Dec 00 - 01:48 PM

Bert, that reminds me of the damsel in distress/villain joke.

She says, "I'd do anything (to say my life)."

He says (in his best music hall villain's voice)," Anything?"

She says, "the train."


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bert
Date: 14 Dec 00 - 01:20 PM

You know, I don't remember one thing about sleeping with Little Neo. DAMN that CRS!!!!

It's a good thought though... Hmmmm.... Praise - You wanna change your name - Heh, Heh, Heh, he says in his best Music Hall Villains voice.

Bert. (You KNOW I luv ya Praise)


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 14 Dec 00 - 04:49 AM

Susan, I can't suggest a name, Praise seemed OK to me but you gotta do what ya gotta feel comfy with.
I started off as Roger the zimmer (after the zimmer frame walking aid that someone off-mudcat suggested as suitable to my age and decrepitude) as there are a lot of Rogers here (R in Baltimore, R in Sheffield, Shambles, Katlaughing's SO etc.) Later it occurred to me that this might offend people who really did need a zimmer frame so I changed it to reflect my sort of "folk" interest. You seem to like the blues perhaps BlueSue?
Whatever you choose, if someone mocks, just ignore them.
I don't get embroiled in the religious threads but I'm glad you're back for your musical and humour input.
RtS


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 14 Dec 00 - 12:48 AM

Look folks, I've been here for a while, and you know I stay away from juvenile arguments, and as far away as I can from the folks who simply CAN'T resist being hurtful and nasty.....but...give me a break "This place has turned to fighting and nastiness...."

What a load of crap! A tiny group of people who constantly remind us that they don't care what anybody else thinks cannot destroy the good sense and social skills of the vast majority . The toleration level here is at times astonishing. For the eight millionth time, if one of the nasties attacks, IGNORE IT, or post something like "message acknowledged"...and get back to the original point of the thread. You will be supported by the huge majority.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 09:39 PM

Praise, like Bill, I listened to the show and I didn't hear any such suggestion. If my memory serves my correctly, Max did complain about bickering between people which I am sure is something he doesn't need.

To follow up from what Bill has said, you should know the "rules" of taking an Evangelical stance in life pretty well by now. Rightly or wrongly, this will provoke a hostile reaction from some and whether you like it or not, if that is to be your approach, you need to learn how to deal with it without crying to the forum for help and getting involved with pettyness.

This is a situation every Christian (and possibly members of other faiths/ beliefs) finds them self in, one that exists in all aspects of life (unless you shelter yourself solely with members of your own faith) and one that to some degree, we all have to deal with.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 09:39 PM

Well I didn'tbnhea rity either, but whatb I'd have though he'd have said was thta interpersional differences are better dealt with via Personal Messages, which is more or less the kind of thing Praise has said often enough.

"This place has turning to fighting and nastiness" - not so. There are thorns on the roses, and horseflies inthe meadow, and wasps zoomimg round and a few stings. But that's what picnics are always like. I very much hoe Matt's prediction is not going to happen. If the Mudcat ever does close - and it's a nasty idea - it wouldn't be because of this kind of stuff. It must be a murderous business keeping it upright and running.

Please everyone, send in some loot! How much would you pay to get it back, if it had folded? Quite a lot I suspect.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Sailor Dan
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 09:03 PM

How about something that your are??

Sweetness, SweetSusie, Sparklin Sue

Oh well corny but meaningful

Sailor DAn


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 09:00 PM

ummm...Matt..you have inside info on the status of Mudcat?...that is a pretty sweeping generalization, considering that MOST Mudcatters do NOT join in the battles...


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 08:57 PM

ummm...I listened, and I don't think I heard anything like that....can't believe Max would say that, unless it was a poorly worded thing that was mis-heard....

Praise...98% of everyone here either likes you, or can tolerate you...much as with several others...it is YOU who must decide whether it is too much strain, given who you are and how you react to stress. Unless you can adopt a new name and stay out of controversy, things will always pop up...I have no problem having you here, but YOU need to examine it......perhaps practice under a name not mentioned yet...there is no easy answer once you have wounds....

I am truly sorry such pain and dilemas arise for ANYONE.....


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 08:48 PM

Oh well...I'm sorry to hear that Sooz. But like Oasis says "F*** 'Em and Do Yer Own Thing". There is life outside of Mudcat. This place has turning to fighting and nastiness and now is on the verge of being shut down. Get out while you can.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 08:38 PM

Well, it's been another interesting day in the life. These are all great. But I think it has become academic. I'm reading them with tears streaming down my face because I've always said that if Max wanted me to leave Mudcat I'd be outta here.

From what I understand of what Joe Offer tells me, that's pretty much what Max said last night on the radio. I wish he'd just TOLD me, himself. Most of you know my present computer does not do radio... so I hadn't heard it myself or I would not have posted this thread.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Nathan in Texas
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 08:35 PM

Praise II (Which if heard instead of read, comes out Prays to. . . or Prays too, or perhaps, Preys, too)


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 07:45 PM

§Ü§@Ñ™...that oughta distinguish you from other Susans


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 07:45 PM

Slartibartfast?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 07:42 PM

How about "Flattery"???

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 07:07 PM

Ah, cool, Jon(athan). I missed that. Thanks! :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Morticia
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 06:57 PM

Jon, are you going all formal on us?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 06:51 PM

Lepus Rex, as I indicated to Praise earlier, if you just go to the membership page and edit your nickname, all your past membership posts will reflect that change. The only posts that remain stuck are "Guest" posts.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 06:37 PM

I got to 'Lepus Rex' first, Praise! Nyah-nyah.

Whatever you do, Praise, don't do one of those Matt R, Bill F, Fred S, Betsy K type nicks... I never can remember those kind of names. And it sounds like kindergarten. (no offense)

Actually, I'd like to change MY name so it doesn't have that underscore in it (I_didn't_know_spaces_were_allowed_back_then...), but that would just complicate things when I'm looking up old threads I contributed to... So if I were you, I'd stick with 'Praise.'

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 06:03 PM

Well from my experience Praise I highly recommend you keep your current moniker. That kind of thing is not encouraged around here. In fact I had to sleep with Bert to be allowed to change mine back to Little Neophyte.

Banjo Bonnie oh I mean Little Neo oh I mean Banjo Bonnie oh I mean Little Neo


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Sourdough
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 05:02 PM

I have to assume that you have a good reason for wanting to change your Mudcat name. I have to admit I was a little put off at first with a perhaps unreasonable concers (as though it was any of my business!) that you might be a self-righteous sort with little substance. It didn't work out that way. Your name was your witness but nothing I saw anyway made me feel you were trying to shove anything down anyone's throats or pass yourself off as anything more than someone who was trying to do the best she could as best as she knew how and was able.

Whatever name you choose, I am glad that you are a part of Mudcat.

Sageprod .(who tries to do the best he can in the way he knows how - a way that is not Christian but who appreciates people who try to live by their beliefs.)


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bernard
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 04:46 PM

Owzabout SOKAP - Susan, Once Known As Praise...??

Or invent a stupid squiggle - oops! it's been done!!


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: NightWing
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 04:39 PM

But mousethief, won't she have to have a squiggle to go along with "The Artist Formerly Known As Praise"?

I don't know how you could make a squiggle in HTML *G*

BB,
NightWing

P.S. My vote is to keep it ... if YOU want to.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 04:33 PM

The Artist Formerly Known as Praise?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: John Routledge
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 04:21 PM

Sound advice Russ!!


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 04:17 PM

~Susan, one of the neat (and occasionally scary) things about the net world is that some of the rules are so much different than those in the real world. In the net world you can change your name simply by typing something different. No lawyers, papers, etc. I encourage you to take advantage of your freedom here. Who do you WANT to be? "Praise" was good for a time in a certain place. Who do you feel like now? Since you are being up front about the name change you don't have to worry about misleading anybody on the forum.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Gary T
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 02:26 PM

Praisusan (or some variant thereof), if that doesn't defeat the purpose by being too close to the name that's getting killed off. (I have no problem with the name "Praise", but I do like the wake idea if you drop it.)


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jimmy C
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 02:03 PM

I'm with annamill and others. I like Praise, stick with it.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:52 PM

Just thought I'd try Wolfgang's idea but just anagram Praise. How about Pi Arse? ;-)

Jon


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:51 PM

Laude, laude, I've no idea what you should change your name to. Seamus


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:47 PM

I also feel that keeping the name "Praise" is fine.
You could go with "Faith," "Hope" or "Charity." "Hardiwoman?" "Pygmalion?" (Involves loss of pedastal :-)

How about "~Susan"?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:44 PM

NothingElseMatt_Rs


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bert
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:41 PM

I'm still not used to Annamill or Matt_R.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:40 PM

Great Name! TheFolkProcess (TFP for short)!


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:36 PM

No no no! Change it! Change it! What about the folk process? Geez...


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:35 PM

How about Pass?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:29 PM

How about SuPraisan? Sooz Da Flooz? Esairp?

Personally I'm voting for keeping the old name. I think once we count the votes, including the Florida votes 17 times, you will find the old name wins.


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:23 PM

Micca, I could see the grin from here!

How about JCSusan? Too corny. XSusan? No, you're still susan, it's Praise that would be X'd. How about Faith? Or do you want it to be Susan-y? I don't know any Suzannes here... how about SoSueMe? As in, don't Praise me any more, so Sue me?


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Micca
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:17 PM

Sorry, I forgot the****BG****


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Micca
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:16 PM

How about, in the light of the recent Pearl Harbour anniversary...from the padre in the battle? (the Arizona I think) PTLAPTA


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:06 PM

Aw geez, not another NeoBonnieBanjoLittle thingy.............oy..........................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:00 PM

Praise, if you are changing you nickname using the membership form, all your previous posts will reflect the new nickname. (Member posts are stored by a member number not a name).

BTW, I'm with those who say stick with Praise but it's your choice.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 12:44 PM

How about anagrams of 'Praise the Lord' like 'hardi's pet lore' or 'rather spoiled' or 'spare-tire hold'?

Wolfgang (admitting there are nicer anagrams)


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Subject: RE: Help: What About a New Mudcat Name?
From: Bert
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 12:41 PM

Stick with Praise.


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