Lyr Req: Love Is Teasin'

Subject: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 03:39 PM

Wow. In the first 48 hours that my songs were on mp3.com, LOVE IS TEASIN'click here to hear went up to 188 in the Celtic genre chart. THE WINTER IT IS PAST is at 245 and SHE MOVED THROUGH THE FAIR is at 228. Thanks to all those who checked out the page and listened.

Alice

Subject: Lyr Add: LOVE IS TEASIN'^^
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 04:05 PM

I just checked the lyrics in the DT and noticed that the version I sing is different. The tune I sing is very close to the tune for Anac Cuain. Here is the way I sing it, tweaked a bit.

LOVE IS TEASIN'

Oh love is teasin', and love is pleasin',
And love's a pleasure when first it's new,
But love grows older and then grows colder,
And fades away like the mornin' dew.

Come all you young maids, and heed this warning,
Do not believe what the young men say,
For like a star on a misty morning,
You'll think he's near when he's far away.

I left my mother, I left my father,
I left my brothers and sisters, too,
I left my cottage, the home I dwelt in,
My dear young man to be with you.

Oh love is teasin', and love is pleasin',
And love's a pleasure when first it's new,
But love grows older and then grows colder,
And fades away like the mornin' dew.

Alice ^^

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 04:10 PM

Lovely singing Alice. Lovely picture too!

You need to do something about your website though - having to click on a picture of a birds nest and and moose to get to your web design tips isn't exactly intuitive.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 04:14 PM

ok

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 04:21 PM

I re-did my home page at my website and thought I had uploaded it... fixed it now. Guest, let me know if this is better - www.aliceflynn.com

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 08:16 PM

Alice, that was lovely singing! I'm too dumb to put tunes here for folks, but I'll maybe get son Jon to play "O Love is Teasin," from my very first recording (also Elektra's first record)...issued in 1952, a 10" lp. In fact I believe, O Love is Teasin was the album title! It is almost as you sing it, which makes me wonder where you learned it!!! I myself learned it from Peggy Staunton, a lovely Irishwoman who worked in the kitchen at the Henry Street Settlement where I had my first NYC job (I majored in social work and that's why I came to NY from KY in the first place...). Peggy was a beautiful singer, and we'd usually end up step-dancing round the big diningroom after all the important folks left.

Someone told me that there was one of those old albums for sale on ebay recently, and it went for over $200! So, I'm gonna visit your website- will you return the visit? www.jeanritchie.com Happy New Century

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Catrin
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 08:37 PM

Alice, I listened to your singing from a link you put up in another thread - beautiful stuff. I love that unnacompaied pure voice sound. I'm not surprised it's gone up in the charts - bravo!

P.S. I wonder how mny others listened without posting responses?.....

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 09:24 PM

Hi, Jean, I learned it from your songbook, "Folk Songs of the Southern Appalachians". I was learning Anac Cuain a few months ago, and as I was flipping through your songbook, I noticed that the first part of Love Is Teasin as it is written in your book is VERY similar to Anac Cuain. It was natural for me to add the second part of the tune and arrange the words the way that felt "right" to me. (I still haven't memorized all the lyrics to Anac Cuain.)

I am at the moment uploading Kitty of Coleraine to the mp3 page, but it takes sometimes a few days for the songs to be reviewed by their staff and made public.

Jean, thanks for listening, and thanks for putting Peggy's song in your songbook! Catrin, thanks also to you for the compliment.

Alice Flynn

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: John Hardly
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:42 PM

As an artist myself, I took notice of your fine illustrations from the earlier "artwork" thread. I also called up your singing and listened to your lovely version of "Teasin'". (First heard the song by Tim O'Brien). You have an exceptional voice!

Mudcat is lucky to have such a talent participating!

JH

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 11:40 PM

thanks, JH. I've been on Mudcat since '98, yet until Bill and Allan came out to Montana on their adventure, I have felt isolated from the "sound of music". Being in the remote sticks, I don't get to participate in folk music gatherings. Setting up this mp3 site last weekend is the first really functional way that I've found to sing for all of you (can't use HearMe, Mac inclined).

I wish I could attend one of the gatherings you all talk about back East. Being in Montana has been a career and financial handicap. Thank goodness for the internet.

Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jan 01 - 11:55 PM

I missed this somewhere in the other thread you all have mentioned. Just beautiful, Alice! I esp. loved the way you did She Moved Through the Fair; your phrasing and ornamentation are *spot on* and lovely. So nice to hear you...HearMe/Paltalk has been frustrating in its exclusion of you MAC users.:-)

I know Willie-O told me how last time, but I cannot remember and couldn't figure it out: how do I make a comment on mp3 so that it helps you to move up the charts, or is it just that I click on and listen?

You know I understand that isolation thing; you've been doing an inspiring and wonderful job of it, despite the drawbacks.

Thanks,

luvyakat

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:09 AM

I'm new to mp3.com, so I haven't figured out all the ins and outs, kat. I think you just listen to the recordings. I don't think you have to write anything. It tracks the number of hits to each song.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:15 AM

Okay, thanks.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Jimmy C
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 01:05 AM

Alice,

I just listened to the songs, beautiful interpretations, You have a perfect voice for haunting melodies. My mother used to sing "She Moved Through the Fair" only she called it " The Next Market Day". Your singing brought back many childhood memories of her.

P.S, Very nice photo by the way.

P.S.#2 - I came across some photos of myself sitting on some rocks on the edge of Gartan Lake. As soon as I figure out how to send them I will.

Slan

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:08 AM

Jimmy C, send me a personal message about the Gartan photos and any problems you need to figure out in sending them. I also plan to make an mp3 of the Gartan Mother's Lullaby with that third verse.

Kat, I just read something on the mp3.com site called "shameless promotion" or Payola Songs that describes an auction they have for promoting songs. I didn't read all the details yet - don't know how it works, but it seems there is at least one other way to increase the standings of a song in the chart in addition to listener's hits.

Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:31 PM

Well, I was tired last night and wrote that I'd been here at Mudcat since '98, when I meant to write '97. I started my website in '98. Now I have to re-design it and remove extraneous hobby stuff like gardening and focus it on music and art. It's been a long stretch at the computer the last two days - also trying to finish a package design for a gift company in Ontario, Canada in between music work.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: mousethief
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 02:57 PM

Finally got headphones at work. What a voice! Yowza!

STANDING OVATION.

Alex

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 04:06 PM

Thank you. Imagine standing in Redwall and listening.

Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 04:47 PM

Is this song Child #204, or does it stray too far from the fold? How about "There Is a Tavern in the Town"? They all seem to share verses with "Waly Waly." Take a look at the Traditional Ballad Index (click).
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: GUEST,Allan S.
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 05:15 PM

Hi there Jean I hope come back to pick this up. Just went and looked through my Stuff and there was "Singing family of the cumberlands" also 2 of the old 10" records that I still treasure. Kentucky Mountains of the Cumberlands and Elektra -25 and Jean Ritchie singing the traditional songs of her Kentucky mountain family Elektra-Stratford EKLP-2 with Love is Teasin'g. I still treasure them All the best Allan

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Barry T
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 10:30 PM

'Don't know where the version of my midi fits in the genealogy of this tune, but I'll throw it into the circle to add to the thread. This iteration, titled Love is Easy, was collected in Ontario by Canadian folklorist Edith Fowke. I understand that it is close to that sung by Jean Ritchie, referenced above.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 12:23 AM

My, that was nice, Barry.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: harpgirl
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 11:17 AM

...lovely singing Alice, and I admire your computer skills as well...

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 01:33 PM

Nice midi Barry. The words and tune in Jean Ritchie's songbook are different, you have more verses on your page. The one I sing is the one in her book, first part of the tune, then add the second part like in Anach Cuain. There is a large family of songs that are related here - this is a bit of what Jean said to me regarding a version Sarah Makem sings-
quote:
"The high part you added to, "O love is teasin," is the way Sarah Makem's tune to her "Hangman" song goes. The Makems call it, "Derry Gaol." She begins with four lines using the "Love is Teasin" melody:

O it's after mornin there comes an evenin,
And after evenin another day;
And after a false love there comes a true one-
It's hard to hold them that will not stay.

Then goes into your high part:

My love he was as fine a man ....." end quote

See more about this in the thread on Anach Cuain.

Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 01:39 PM

by the way, I just added Spanicil Hill, with the Michael Considine original words, to my mp3 page. I had a bit of a cough this morning, so it isn't as perfect as I'd like, but it is taking several days for things to appear on my page and I wanted to get it done and up. May record it again later with my hammered dulcimer or fiddle/piano playing friends accompanying. It is solo a capella now.

later... Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Jimmy C
Date: 11 Jan 01 - 08:24 PM

Barry

That was great. I have a photo of myself and Edith Fowke somewhere, taken at the 1968 Mariposa Festival, I should post it sometime. She was a great lady and her husband Frank was one of the gentlest, quietest and nicest individuals you could meet.

The last verse"

Come all you fair maids from distant counties
, Don't you believe all young men say,
For like the stars on a frosty evening,
You think they're near when they're far away.

is very similar to a verse in " Fair and Tender Ladies"

"Come all ye fair and tender ladies>br>Take warning how you court young men
They're like the stars on a summer evening
They first appear and then they're gone

Thanks again

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 12:33 PM

It is taking awhile for the approval process at mp3.... they blocked my recording of Kitty of Coleraine, saying it isn't in the public domain! I had to reply with more information about it and hopefully they will then allow it on the site. (sheesh) I pulled Spancil Hill, working on the quality of the recording some more.

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Micca
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM

Alice , i hope they allow it as I have wanted to hear the tune to that for a long time,It is mentioned in Kipling, but I have no idea of what it sounds like....or of "Arrahh patsy mind the child" either

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 10:50 AM

A bit more about Jean's recording on Elektra of "Love Is Teasin'", and where she learned it, refreshed for discussion of discography... if you are lucky, you have one of these Elektra platters from the 50's!

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Peg
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:01 AM

I sing this and have altered the lyrics somewhat in the second verse....

"I left my father, I left my mother,
I left my brothers and sisters too
I left my homeland all for another
My dear young man to be with you."

Peg

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:19 AM

Hi, Peg, the words that came to me for my version, very close is "I left my cottage, the home I dwelt in" where you sing... "I left my homeland...". In Jean's published version in the songbook, the line is "I left my home and my fond dwellin'...".

Part of singing it from the heart, is the words change to make it feel personally right, eh?

Alcie

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 01:04 PM

the spinners used this as the title track of an album years ago and sang 'i left my father, i left my mother, i left my sisters and brothers too, i left my friends and my kind relations, i left them all for the love of you'

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:22 AM

Jean Ritchie's recording of Love Is Teasin' on Elektra was played this morning on part four of National Public Radio's series on the influence of technology on music. The audio file will be on the site later today at this link. The Secret History of Technology and Pop Music
Look for Part Four.

To correct an earlier link in this thread, a URL that has moved, www.aliceflynn.com

Alice

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:06 PM

Hi Alice,
I enjoyed your singing and your web site and was pleasantly surprised to hear a piece by Joe Heaney. I shared a flat with Joe in London in the early 60's and wondered what has become of him now. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Jim Mclean

Subject: RE: Love Is Teasin'
From: Alice
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 02:01 PM

Sorry to say, Jim, Joe Heaney passed away. There are threads here on the Mudcat that are about Joe. Other Mudcat members who knew him or remember hearing him can join in. I'll refresh a thread for you.