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Subject: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST Date: 06 Jan 01 - 11:55 AM There was a WWII aircraft, The Martin Marauder, or B-26, and there was a song about it. I think the lyrics started with "The Marauder's a very fine aircraft,/Full of rivets and blivets and things/ Dah dah dah dah da da da/But where in the hell are the WINGS?" Anyone got the complete lyrics? |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:10 PM The lyrics are in the DT under Marauder.....CLICK HERE for Lyrics AS the DT notes, the landing speed was very fast because of the wing loading, but it also made the B-26 very fast and maneuverable. Veteran pilots loved the plane and used it to its best abilities and made quite a record for it as a medium bomber. The problem was with the novice pilots who had a difficult time in training.....mainly surviving the wicked characteristics of the Marauder. They trained in Tampa and there wasa a saying back then, "One a day in Tampa Bay." A few are still flying and actually more than "demo" planes. The 26 proved itself to be a reasonable fire tanker for the forest service too. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:28 PM The people around here (Tampa/Lakeland) still remember it as a pilot (trainee) killer. A great looking plane. Bob S. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: DougR Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:29 PM One of the best looking (design wise) bomber of WW2. DougR |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Matt_R Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:34 PM Awww...I like the Havoc better! Skip bomb a BOOM!! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:38 PM I agree Doug, it really is a beuatiful plane. In a little town up the road, they have a Navy patrol version sitting in front of the Legion Hall and I always like driving past. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Matt_R Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:45 PM Ah yes, I built a model of the Marauder! For minute I forgot what it looked like. Was pretty cool-looking now that I remember. Too bad my mom threw the model away :-( |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bob S. again Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:58 PM Go to google.com and type in "B-26". You will get a bunch of links to find out more than you want to know about the Marauder. Bob S. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Barry T Date: 06 Jan 01 - 02:17 PM It's interesting that a song was actually written about a plane. That is quite unusual. It seems we encounter songs about trains and boats... but no planes. Perhaps not (yet) romantic enough?
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Jan 01 - 02:36 PM Most don't have the closer association that we do with trains and ships. In a pinch, most of us feel we can beach the boat or stop the train, but we know zip about how to land a plane! Actually the DT lists 53 songs as airplane related and in looking through them, they are more about people and events or situations. There aren't too many more for trains and if you think about it, not many songs are written about "The Berkshire Locomotive" either. Most train songs are about people or situations and not the equipment itself. Of course there have been a lot of songs about "reefers." (that's grass and not a refrigerated boxcar)......(:<)) Spaw Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bob S. Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:19 PM I remember a (kid's) song "Bye, bye, biplane. I think it's a kids song,but it has been a few decades since I heard it. At least I can still remember. Bob S. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Naemanson Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:36 PM But here's the real question. Who knows what a "blivet" is? "Full of rivets and blivets and things" I do... |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:47 PM B-26s were made nearby, and during WWII they made trial low flying runs over where I lived in west Omaha. They flew so low one could see the (empty) bomb racks when the bomb bay doors were opened. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Allan S. Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:03 PM Blivet Was an old WW2 expression meaning 10 pounds of S--- {Human waste} in a 5 pound bag. Frankly I don't know how it relates to an airplane unless it was chock full of all sorts of gadgets and things with little room to move about. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Naemanson Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:08 PM Allan S wins the prize! A liftime supply of blivets. My father told me about them and added the proviso that they would hang over your head. But then he was in the Marines. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:19 PM The Marauder was a superb aircraft design, and had a very low loss rate in combat, although it was hard on trainees. The best model of it is the 1/48 scale Revell/Monogram kit. Nice lookin' plane! I still like the flammable "Betty" the best though, for appearance. But I wouldn't have wanted to be IN one of them. No siree! - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:58 PM Which does beg the question....................If you were to have your choice of any Medium or Heavy Bomber from WWII, what would you feel the best in? Or for that matter, you have your choice of ANY WWII fighter to fly into combat.....What's your pick? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: DonMeixner Date: 06 Jan 01 - 11:26 PM I have a friend who flew Marauders during the war. He liked it very much. Low on armor but high on manuverability. He was part of that disasterous Ploesti Oil Fields raid. He also said that there were very few B-26 in the raid. His was out of Italy. He said it was the low level flight ability of the B-26 that got him and his crew back. He also said they were a hard train but once learned a great ship in the air. Don |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Jan 01 - 12:36 AM Click here for a rather nice page on U.S. WWII bombers. I'm a pacifist, but I'm still fascinated by military aircraft. I bought an aircraft book the other day - from the comments made by the women behind the counter, you'd think it was some kind of pornography or something. Click here and here for more good pages of the nasty stuff. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: rangeroger Date: 07 Jan 01 - 01:03 AM My choice of medium bomber would be the B-25 Mitchell. In the movie Cash McCall, James Garner had a B-25 for his corporate airplane. Fighter choice would be the F4-U Corsair. rr |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Owlkat Date: 07 Jan 01 - 01:15 AM Hoot there, War-mongering and combat memories aside, we Yukoners put B-26's to proper use up here as fire-fighting tools. They are used to dump fire retardant chemicals on the forest fires started by American tourists who seem inordinately fond of leaving burning campfires in their campsites when they come up here to visit. ;-) Owl |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jan 01 - 01:47 AM Joe Offer - Yeah, I'm also a pacifist who loves historical warplanes, and military history, and military strategy games, etc. I believe it's partly because I know quite a bit about warfare that I am a pacifist, in fact. (That and past lives...but I'll give you all a break and not explain that any further...). When I was a kid I loved playing with toy guns, and yet I was an absolutely pacifistic kid as well...never inclined to violence. The people who freak out if they see a toy gun or a book about warplanes are individuals suffering from an astounding lack of imagination. They've got the cover confused with the book, I suppose. I bet half of them are more violent by nature than you and me put together. Spaw - My favourite fighter plane is either the Focke-Wulf 190 (in its many versions)...or the Japanese Nakajima Hayate (Frank). Both are as good as it gets. My favourite medium bomber? That's tough. The Marauder or the Ju 88, I suppose. Favourite dive bomber? Well, maybe the Judy (Japanese) or the Dauntless SBD or the Stuka, depending on the situation. The Stuka was the most accurate, the Judy was fast and manueverable, the Dauntless was all-round dependable and got the job done. Favourite heavy? The B-17. The B-29 looks too modern for my taste, and the B-24 is interesting, but strange. Don't like the Lancaster much for some reason. - LH - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: sledge Date: 07 Jan 01 - 02:26 AM I also like to make Models and see historic aircraft, odd seeing as I live by the sea and spent 11 years in the Navy. Recently I have enjoyed the superb Me 410 from Revell/monogram as well as the Heinkel 219 from Tamiya. Favourite historic aircraft on the show circuit have to be the Avro Lancaster and the Fairy Firefly, though it would be nice to see a Typhoon or Tempest with the original Napier Sabre engines. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:08 AM Always had a fondness for the B-17. Have several books on it. Lots of pictures of them returning with extensive damage. Would fly when it seemed just a bunch old scrap held together by luck. Had a chance to fly in one a couple of years ago. Wonderful experience flying around Lakeland at low levels. Great view from the bombardiers station. Little old floor plate about 8" wide to get through the bomb bay. Would like to do it again. Favorite fighter. Mustang And ME109. Never took to radial engines for fighters, although they could get the job done. My old boss was a Thunderbolt driver and to him that was the greatest. Bob S. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Dave Wynn Date: 07 Jan 01 - 07:43 AM Good thread this....more please. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Corvos Date: 07 Jan 01 - 09:06 AM I'd go for the A-26; I got to fly the re-built version (On-Mark conversion, the A-26K) during the 1960s and it was quite a machine. But I always wanted to fly the Northrop Black Widow; it would be a hard choice between these two. For fighters, my choice would be a toss-up between the P-47N and the Dornier Arrow. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Allan S Date: 07 Jan 01 - 10:30 AM What about the Spitfire for pure design and beauty. Best movie "The battle of Britian" W/ Susana York also Spitfire w/ Leslie Howard and David Niven |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:15 PM For a pure dogfighting aircraft the Spitfire is hard to beat. The Bf 109 has always been a sentimental favourite of mine too, but I'd have to say they just don't carry enough ammo. The Focke-Wulf is far superior in most ways. If Messerschmitt had not had so much political influence in the 3rd Reich, I think the Germans would have phased out the 109 after 1942, and concentrated on the Fw-190 almost exclusively (while, of course, getting the Me-262 perfected to deal with the heavy bombers). That's what would have been done if they'd had some clear-thinking, sensible people at the top, instead of a collection of really disturbed individuals like Hitler and Goering, etc... Of course, then they would probably never have gotten into that ill-conceived war in the first place! And we'd have a lot less military models to build. - LH p.s. Tamiya's He 219 is a gorgeous kit! I waited a long time for that one. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Barry T Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:44 PM 'Just saw a theatre preview of a new movie being released in May... Pearl Harbor. The flying scenes enhanced by special effects look fabulous. 'Looks like a must-see for aviation buffs.
...and thanks to Bob S. for reminding me about Martin Cooper's song Bye Bye Biplane. I remember it recorded by the Irish Rovers. A great kids song... but I loved it, too!
Bye Bye Biplane
Way out in London airport in hangar number four CHORUS
All the mighty jet planes would look down their nose
CHORUS Then one day the fog and rain had closed the airport down
And they rolled the little biplane out to runway number five
CHORUS
Ah so, my baby bundle, I have spun a tale for you
CHORUS
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Matt_R Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:55 PM Yes, Black Widow!! I had a model of that, too! What a neat looking design on that one! All those little hanging gunsights...the whole thing was a work of art. My fave heavy bomber? Definately the later model B-25s. The ones where the glass nose was replaced with a solid nose, with 16 50 cals mounted in it, and the big falcon head painted on it. And the twin gun bubble on the roof was moved from the midsection of the fuselage to just behind the cockpit. To come flying outta the clouds with those 16 firing at once...shivers!!! And as LH could probably tell you, the fighter I'd be flying is the Grumman Wildcat. Sure it only had 4 50 cals...and was kinda fat, but that little puppy had heart...and a steel-plate behind the seat to boot! Lol...there's a little unfinished model of a Wildcat right here next to my monitor, that I'm still working on. Taking my time. Scratch one! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Willie-O Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:58 PM I saw a Lancaster in flight just once a couple of years ago. I'm not much in favour of dropping bombs but it was a strangely affecting and yes, beautiful sight to see. Spitfire would be the only fighter I'd want to see...maybe the old maple leaf is showing. I also have a soft spot for the odd-looking PBY-5 or Canso flying boat. Had a model hanging from my ceiling for the longest time as a kid. Heard a recently retired longtime veteran stewardess interviewed on CBC talking about the early days of her airline experience, on a Canso in northern BC. She flipped out when she saw the movie "Always", because the one that John Goodman flies is the very same aircraft she started her career in--she recognized the call letters. DC-3's have class too. They used to say "You might crack one up, but you can't wear one out." Willie-O, armchair pilot. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Jan 01 - 07:18 PM Who else mentioned the Jug? The P-47 may not have been the prettiest or the best dogfighter (then again, remember several aces flew them), but the damn thing had a great chance of getting you back alive! Ah hell, I love 'em all!!! Masterpiece Theatre aired a 6 part thing about the run-up to the Battle of Britain. It followed one Spit squadron and although NO ONE squadron could have had all those things happen, it was a very decent composite and covered a lot of material very accurately. It was a BBC production called, "Piece of Cake." Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: DonMeixner Date: 07 Jan 01 - 10:51 PM As fine a ship as the Spitfire was I amazed the Brits haven't mentioned the Hawker Hurricain. In of itself a remarkable aircraft. I believe that Douglas Bader had a soft spot in his heart for the Hawkers. My Dad was a line chief for Bell and Lockhead during the war. He built the P-39 Aircobras and the P-38 Lightnings. He said that the P-38s were really just gun platforms in the air, very fast and very stable. They so much turn about as skid sideways in the air until the stabilizers bit in and they could straighten up again. The P-39s were determined to be obsolete when they were built but the AAC took em anyway. No very fast and no great ceiling they stayed on the ground in the Pacific after the first year of the war. The AAC gave a mess of them to the Russians who discovered the real potential of the 39 was not as a pursuit fighter but as a tank killer. It could fly on the deck and jump hedge rows because of its lower speed. It had a 47mm cannon in the prop crank that was easy to arm and fire quite quickly. The pilot sat in an armored tub and so was well peotected from ground fire. A very similar story is the A-10 Warthog which was determined a second rate ship until desert storm and it came into its own as a workhorse in the desert for the same reasons as the P-39. Don |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Matt_R Date: 07 Jan 01 - 10:58 PM For some reason, the P-38G handles better than the P-39J. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Owlkat Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:32 AM Hey there, Actually, I don't "freak out" upon exposure to war trivia. Actually, it's just tedious. Nor do pacificism, or hostility relate in any significant way to the points I was trying to make. I have, however, having grown up and out of that particular mode of thought that romanticizes or simplifies war. Unlike some of the participants in this thread, I don't get any gratification from obsessing about machines which have been carefully designed to murder and destroy. It doesn't make a rat's ass worth of difference which plane or tank or gun was better or prettier or more skillfully engineered or used by what country when. They are all hideous deformations of the human urge to create and craft. They have, for the most part, made nothing better for anyone or anything on this planet. For the past three months, I've been studying biology. I've gotten a rudimentary glimpse into the miracles of life and the forces that shape it. It is fantastic beyond belief, and in most cases, beyond my understanding. The drivs of life to survive and thrive manifest themselves in countless ways. You think a P-51 is prettier than an apple tree? Grow up. Granted the anti-American cracks in my previous response were probably cheap shots, and gratuitous, but I can't think of a better way to redeem the purpose of a war-machine like a bomber airplane than to use it for the redemption and safeguarding of life. You want to sneer? Whatever. Look up from your glossy photos. Look around you. There's so much more going on. Owl.
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Gervase Date: 08 Jan 01 - 06:55 AM At weekends I'm quite close to Duxford, where the Imperial War Museum's plane collection is kept and where they have displays through the summer, so it's not uncommon to hear the wonderful throaty sound of Merlin engines over the house - especially when the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight is going over on its way from Lincs. For those in the US, the BOBMF is a Lancaster, Spitfire and Hurricane kept in pristine condition and flying around 600 hours a year at displays and over state events and the like. As for the difference between the Spitfire and the Hurricane, I've heard it described as between a fesity thoroughbred and a realiable old carthourse - the Hurricane wasn't as manoeuvrable but was a lot more forgiving and could absorb a lot more damage than the Spit. Not as pretty, though (and, sorry Owlkat, but there can be a terrible beauty even about things which are designed to deal in death - IMO at least). The Lancaster is a wonderfully noisy beast, and I can only boggle at what it must have been like with the sky was full of them. My step-grandfather flew Lancs (the rotten sod was responsible for much lf the damage inflicted on Milan and Turin - so on his behalf to anyone there, sorry). On the subject of blivets and what to do with the waste matter of the crew on a long op, he would wax lyrical. Apparently, on some planes, the pilot and co-pilot were allowed a piss-tube which led to the outside and down which they'd relive themselves while not leaving the flight deck. It paid to be pleasant to the ground crew, for those buggers that weren't would find that some erk had put a cork in the external opening of the piss-tube - meaning that the call of nature somewhere over occupied Europe would end up with a lap-full of freezing piss and some stinking flying suits once the tube backed up. The bigger bombers also had chemical toilets on board - the old-fashioned Elsans. My grandfather used to swear (though it may be apocryphal) that some crews would chuck the bugger out through the bomb-bay on the way back rather than have it slopping its contents around the plane in rough weather - and that the Nazis actually put in a formal protest through the Swiss Red Cross to the effect that the Brits were using chemical or biological weapons in contravention of the Geneva convention after finding some impacted Elsans in France and the low countries. That's why, in my step-grandfather's honour, I always try and have a dump over Birmingham when flying north-south. The thought of all that blue ice falling on England's unloveliest cities... *BG* ;^) (Ducks and runs, chased by angry Brummies!) |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:23 PM Hey Owlkat - To be completely unable to understand or even respect someone else's aesthetic appreciation of whatever is nothing to be proud of. I have loved military airplanes all my life (probably because I flew them in ANOTHER life...), but I am also keenly aware that they are a useless and destructive expenditure of human effort, built to murder and destroy. Thus, I am now a pacifist. Roman soldiers also murdered and destroyed...but they are a stirring sight to see in a movie, aren't they? Aztec warriors were utterly glorious looking. They also murdered and destroyed. And so it goes. I find apple trees beatiful also, but there is simply no use comparing them to a P-51 Mustang...it would be like comparing the planet Jupiter to a digital camera...pointless. So stop obsessing over the fact that everyone doesn't like or dislike the same things in the same exact way that you do. Who really cares? One person's tedium is another person's joy, and there is no harm in that. Start a thread about apple trees instead of dumping on this thread. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:24 PM Hey Owlkat - To be completely unable to understand or even respect someone else's aesthetic appreciation of whatever is nothing to be proud of. I have loved military airplanes all my life (probably because I flew them in ANOTHER life...), but I am also keenly aware that they are a useless and destructive expenditure of human effort, built to murder and destroy. Thus, I am now a pacifist. Roman soldiers also murdered and destroyed...but they are a stirring sight to see in a movie, aren't they? Aztec warriors were utterly glorious looking. They also murdered and destroyed. And so it goes. I find apple trees beatiful also, but there is simply no use comparing them to a P-51 Mustang...it would be like comparing the planet Jupiter to a digital camera...pointless. So stop obsessing over the fact that everyone doesn't like or dislike the same things in the same exact way that you do. Who really cares? One person's tedium is another person's joy, and there is no harm in that. Start a thread about apple trees instead of dumping on this thread. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:32 PM Oops. Hit the "submit" button twice. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 02:06 PM Oops. Hit the "submit" button twice. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 02:08 PM Hesperis did the last one - DON'T BLAME ME!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: mousethief Date: 08 Jan 01 - 02:12 PM I'm just posting here so that Little Hawk's string of consecutive posts will be broken. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,bobschw Date: 08 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM Little Hawk: Your double posting is OK. That had to be said twice I enjoy the planes for what they are. Mechanical creations. Some I consider beautiful, some so ugly the only way they can fly is that the earth repels them. Bob S. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jan 01 - 05:19 PM Yeah. Ugly planes. The Stuka comes to mind. Of course, when the wings fell off the Earth stopped repelling it for some reason. Then there's the Armstrong Whitworth Whitley...the thing looks like something from a drunken Irishman's nightmare. And how about that British Coastal Command torpedo plane, you know, the ones that attacked the Tirpitz? Talk about UUUUUUGGGGLLYYYYY!!! Ouch. I can't remember its name at the moment. Frog made a 1/72 scale kit of it way back when. I once made up some phony names for inter-war British biplanes that never really existed, but should have: 1. The Gloucester Gadfly - a lively little fighter, specially designed to harass the enemy unmercifully until they either sue for peace or go away. 2. The Bristol Bullfrog - notable for the loud "croak" its motor made upon ignition, and the tendency to take several ponderous hops down the airstrip before actually accomplishing takeoff. 3. The Faery Fantail - a decidedly effeminate looking airplane, scorned by the other squadrons, but beloved by its own aircrews who usually painted the plane in hot pink or lavender, and affected really spiffy silk scarves. 4. The Boulton-Paul Buttend - A plane with a very fat bifurcated rear fuselage. 5. The Hawker Hapless - Had a production run of 50 aircraft. 16 crashed on takeoff. One caught fire while being transported to Dover for an RAF fund-raiser. One was stolen by a crazed German aviator and crashed in the middle of the Tiergarten. The remainder vanished on a routine excercise over the Thames Estuary, resulting in rumours of a Thames Triangle which have persisted to this day, despite being scoffed at by notables such as Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher. 6. The Supermarine Sinkhole - Inline fighter with a pointy nose. Known to generally auger in to a depth of 30 feet or more, even on rocky ground. 7. The Armstrong Whitworth Whatthebloodyhellisthat? - An enormous biplane, triple-tail, assymetrical bombing and reconnaissance aircraft which was built to fit existing RAF hangars, despite being over twice as long and heavy as any other bomber of the time. Thus it had a surprisingly short wingspan, with two sets of wings, plus extra lift surfaces mounted on the triple tail. The cockpit was offset to improve visibility and provide a mount for a fifth engine, an idea that proved so brilliant in practice that it was never employed again. Required a crew of seven very courageous men. This beast also required a runway as long as Wellington's march from Brussels and a good, strong headwind in order to get airborne. Once in the air, it was extraordinarily maneuverable, such that one of them once made it UNDER London Bridge while trying to deal with a fractious #5 engine. Unfortunately it crashed into a cement factory just after that. Pity. - LH |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Llanfair Date: 08 Jan 01 - 07:09 PM My son is at Cranwell in Lincolnshire at the moment, I drove past a spitfire on Thursday on the way to visit him. He'll be back at Cosford next month, only an hour's drive away. He had been working on the Hercules' before he started officer training. It beats me how they can fly, they go so SLOW!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Lanfranc Date: 08 Jan 01 - 07:09 PM Fun thread this. Being yet another warplane-loving pacifist. my EUR0.02 worth of favourite planes would have to include the de Haviland Mosquito, wooden, beautiful - and fast!! Spitfire and Lancaster get plenty of mentions, as does the P51 Mustang - strange how so many of them were powered by Rolls Royce Merlins. The WW1 Albatros was a pretty machine, too and streamlined far better than most of its contemporaries. What looks right usually works.
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: Matt_R Date: 08 Jan 01 - 07:25 PM What about Short Stirlings? I always though they were really ugly-cool! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: AndyG Date: 09 Jan 01 - 06:58 AM For those really interested in WWII a/c you might like to look at Zeno's Warbird Video Drive-In. You'll need RealPlayer but it's well worth it.
For the record, the a/c I admire a/c from the period rated for both appearance and effectiveness would be:
Fav. WWII a/c overall: De Havilland Mosquito
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 09 Jan 01 - 10:24 AM Anyone have any opinions on the British Sutherland? Kinda like the Spruce Goose of Bombers. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Marauder (B-26) From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer Date: 09 Jan 01 - 10:54 AM FWIW the (at least some) ME-109's were powered by Merlin engines. That's the Spanish built ME's Bob S. |
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