BS: Cow Tipping? Part two

Subject: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 08:14 AM

It all started with this...

Subject: BS - Cow tipping...truth or myth??? From: Little Hawk Date: 26-Feb-01 - 09:31 PM

"I was sitting at the dinner table tonight, in legendary Orillia (well, just outside town a few miles)...with flattop, CarolC, and heseperis...and the subject of "cow-tipping" came up.

Flattop, an incurable cynic, expressed disbelief in the whole concept, saying that he doubted that anyone could sneak up on a cow in a field and tip it over. He also said that cows don't sleep standing up, but lying down.

I don't know if he's right about that or not.

Does anyone have any rock solid info on the presumed sport of cow-tipping? Has it really been done, or is it just another one of those weird stories that go around?"

- LH

...and the controversy rages on without any difinitive answers.

Now, at over 100 posts, it's time to continue the discussion in a new thread. The original discussion can be found here.

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 02:08 PM

Let me reiterate: Cows sleep lying down. They do go into a meditative dreamy-eyed state on occasion (as during milking time) while standing, and I suppose it's possible to startle them. But I have never seen a cow sleep standing up.

Cows prefer to lie down even for cud chewing; why in the world would they sleep standing up? Incidentally, there have been times when a transient human being has lain down and slept in the midst of a herd of cows, just for the warmth and the wind break effect. Again, if the cows were standing, in what way would the human benefit?

When you go by a pasture in the middle of the afternoon, and you see a herd of cows lying down, that is a good indication that there is ample feed there. The earlier in the day that a cow is filled, the earlier she will lie down to ruminate (chew her cud, from 'rumen', a cow's first stomach). Toward evening, she may again graze before time to head for the barn.

By the way, I have never thought of cows' legs as being spindly. Some breeds are finer boned than others, but those breeds are also not as heavy. Trust me- cows' legs are in good proportion to the weight they bear.

I've checked some of the links and some of them are pure nonsense. One says that 'cow tipping is normally a very, very cruel sport'. "Normally"? What is it other times? He also says that if upset the cow may give sour milk. What? A cow is not capable of giving sour milk- that is an enzymic process. A cow can get into various plants, like wild garlic or onion, and her milk is unpleasant because of it. She can also, if nervous or upset, 'hold back' her milk, but that does not affect the taste.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: GUEST, A. Cow
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 02:30 PM

Must this cruel, cruel thread continue? I wish I could mooove you to stop writing about this udderly inhumane sport. Sport? Hah! What a bunch of bull. It's not sport, it's just cruelty. I think you humans have milked the subject for all it's worth, and now it's time it ground to a halt.

A. Cow

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM

Sad news - Dolly the clone has been diagnosed with hoof and mouth disease. For the moment she is in isolation.

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: GUEST, A. Cow
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 05:49 PM

Oh, the bovinity!

A. Cow

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 06:05 PM

Well, it beats "Bushwhacked - round 25", anyway...too much bull and not enough cow there, if you ask me. I'm going to go and chew my cud and try and forget about the whole thing.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: mousethief
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 06:29 PM

ANYTHING beats Bushwhacked, round 25. Or round whatever-we're-on.

Bovinity?

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 06:36 PM

Isn't it interesting that we say that humans 'ruminate'? And judging by Mudcatters, not one in fifty people would know that the term comes from the world of bovinity. *BG*

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 06:43 PM

I usually say "cogitate". But does that come from the world of cogs?

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 06:44 PM

I do I do I do!!!

Tellya what, nothing like the sound of a couple hundred sheep chewing their cud just outside your window on a soft summer night. Shwishshshshwishshshhhh.... in waves... like tall grass waving... only.... not... quite... so.... mindless.

~Sheepish

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM

Bovinity indeed. A glorious concept it is. What would the world be without bovinity? We used to have even more bovinity before capitalism and manifest destiny wiped out the buffalo herds.

Mousethief - (Alex) I want to congratulate you on surviving not only the earthquake, but even more so the endless threads which began with "Conservative Cavalry" and then mutated hideously into "Bushwacked". The horror! The horror! It goes on and on. And I note that you have retained your sense of humour despite all of that. You are a heck of a guy!

You deserve a big round of moo's for just hanging in there, and I bet you have never tipped a cow either...make that a double round of moo's!

Damn the tippers! Full snooze ahead!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 09:30 PM

Well it's a sure bet that I'm the closest thing to a cowpoke that you folks are likely to run into, and from where I sit ebbie has won this pot hands down, except she's a girl and who's gonna ever believe a mere little slip of a girl when it comes to such things as cow-tippin?

There's several ways you can tip a cow. The most common way is to bulldog it. That involves runnin the cow (steer, generally) at a pretty good clip and sliding out of the saddle on to the shoulder and neck of the running animal with your heels plowin dirt in front of you and your arms twistin his head down and around, hopin his body will follow his head and he'll sorta tip over. Most steers got handles growin out of their heads to aid and abet the cowpoke as he does his twistin.

Another way is called headin an healin. One cowboy (or cowgirl) will drop a loop over the steer's horns (They're at the head end of the animal, bein the same thing as the handles you use for bulldoggin) and t'other will swing his loop from the side and behind so it goes under the steer as he steps forward and catches his hind legs. That's the healin part and if you both make a good catch and get a good dally on yer saddle horns, then you can spur yer horses in opposite directions and that's the tippin part.

The third way is only good for small cows (called calves and heifers and yearlins and such) and you gotta hev a horse that is smarter than the average cowboy, or the animal either. If you can get yer loop on the calf (or whatever) and yer proceedin along at a pretty good pace, you can shift yer weight back and into your right stirrup and yer horse will take that as a signal to stop and when it does, thet calf'll go ass over tin cup and you got yerself another tipped over cow, albeit a small one.

Now, if y'all had paid attention when I left my little story about Patsy here a couple days ago you'da knowed about all this. Y'all haven't bin listenin to yer Michael Martin Murphey, have ya? Ya need a little Cowboy Logic, I reckon. After all, if ya couldn't tip cows, what'ud cowboys be good fer?

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 09:55 PM

There wuz jest one teeny little mistake in yer story up thar, Spud...

Yew posted these here words:

"t'other will swing his loop from the side and behind so it goes under the steer as he steps forward and catches his hind legs."

Yew should said:

"t'other will swing his loop from the side and behind so's it goes under the steer as he steps forward and catches his hind legs."

Far as thet goes, mebbe yew shoulda said "ketches" 'stead o' "catches"...but shucks, pardner, I don't expect perfection!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 10:10 PM

Dolly is sad news indeed. On a happier note, I was wondering if Mav now has it since he's a real sheep shagger of the first order.........white sheep only of course.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 10:26 PM

Thet's the problem with a high school edicashun.

Spud

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: GUEST,Norton1
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 11:13 PM

Now Spud - There is more than one of your background here. And Ebbie is dead on. So that makes at least two who have been around cows more than once. And as a Northern Nevada Buckaroo said, "The only thing dumber than cows is cowboys."

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 01:00 AM

Yeah, Norton1, that was a kinda pompous statement, wasn't it? Sorry. But it does come with the territory. I am seventy-five years of age and people that age are a little bit insufferable from time to time; damn know-it-alls. As for Ebbie, she'll never be a Sourdough, thank God, but I can tell she's a fine lady. And I thought I was giving her a backup for her argument, not the other way around.

So here's to friendship.

Spud

Are you the same Norton, the First, that was Emporer of San Francisco?

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: GUEST,Norton1
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 10:50 AM

Hi Spud - Was trying to respond last night but had a computer lockup -

The only throne I've ever graced was the porcelain one that replaced the old wooden one out back - wish I had - I'd be rich instead of good looking!

To Friendship in all of its forms - Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 11:23 AM

LH, Ah speck yore cipherin' cud use a mite o'hep too, lil darlin' pal o'mine.

("speck")

*G*

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 03:58 PM

Dagnabit, Ah jest luv it when yew talk lahk thet, honey! Meet me at the roundup, darlin'.

By the way, cow tippin' is goin' outa style. I heerd thet thar's a whole new craze a-comin' on like a bad case o' the hives...it's called Bush-Tippin'!!!

Why, thar's new a thread on it too. Ah reckon that any day now folk's 'r gonna be linin' up fer the privilege of tippin' G.Dubya when he ain't lookin'. Yeehaw!!!

And then we kin do some Bush-doggin' too. Them fellers (the Bush clan) is loaded, so's they kin take a whippin' and keep on tippin'!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Cow Tipping? Part two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:22 PM

Aw, honeh, yew say the sweedest thangs!

~S~