BS: foot and mouth

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:42 PM

Still can't find the implication for horses at either my or your links John.

I don't think they innoculate cattle in Canada either, but I could be wrong. Seems dumb if they don't, I think I recall that there was a scare about it in the wild buffalo (bison) herds here not to many years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM

I agree, Lucy, it doesn't seem right, esp. in view of the ban on vaccinations.

This was in our paper, today: In Ireland, Dublin's St. Patrick's Day festivities on March 17, which were expected to draw half a million people, have been called off following a plea from the government.

Seems the economic effects could be far-reaching.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:34 PM

Metchosin, I haven't read it all but there may be something here that offers an explaination.

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Hawker
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:32 PM

Here in Cornwall, most farms and small holdings have got straw 'mats' across their gateways. As for killing everything that moves, well I guess it is just not workable really.... where do we stop, kill the people to? I am really maddened by the fact that animals do survive this virus, it is not a killer, though it is unpleasant - so why not let them just get better? they would then be immune. Also the cattle can be vaccinated against it, but it is not permitted - as to vaccinate british livestock is like admitting that the virus is active in the UK - and that would lead us in the UK to lose certain trade privledges in Europe......Is it me or did the UK government recently have a drive on us all vaccinating our kids against measles ..... so if there was an epidemic of measles are they going to kill our kids? I think not, its maybe not a good example, but it sure as hell seems pretty unfair to me that all this livestock is being slaughtered....... Off my soap box now, Still sad, Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:24 PM

Thanks Met...jesus.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:23 PM

Sorcha, anthrax is spread by bacteria while hoof and mouth is viral disease.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:18 PM

that would seem reasonable Sorcha, but why not destroy dogs, cats, pigeons and humans then? Horses can be contained and quarantined for a period of time.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:14 PM

I thought it was a form of anthrax.......I'd guess they are destroying anything that might move this disease to a new area......but I don't know, of course. The treated straw above sounds a very good idea.....wonder why more places aren't using it?

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:06 PM

now maybe someone can clarify for me why, if horses are not affected by the disease, they would have been destroyed, as well as cloven hoofed animals.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 04:01 PM

Ah my old alma mater...anyways this might clarify it somewhat Amergin.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 03:41 PM

Ok, forgive my ignorance....but what is foot and mouth? I have heard of the famous foot in mouth disease....and I know what that is, but not this....

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 03:25 PM

Crufts Dog Show has been "postponed", which probably means cancelled. I hadn't planned to go, of course, but I was going to watch on TV.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Hawker
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 03:11 PM

Hi, I live roughly 20 miles from Willie Cleave's farm in Devon and roughly the same in the other direction from the slaughter house at South Petherwin in Cornwall. The effect is devastating, this is a very rural area and most peoples livelihoods have been affected in some way. The local supermarket was really quiet today, though I saw no signs of the food shortages they were talking about. My husband is a plumber, so you would think that it wouldn't affect him, but most of his work is on local farms, and nobody wants him to visit incase he brings it onto their farm, consequently we are suffering. I was supposed to be making my 1st CD on Friday last - and was really looking forward to it... sadly I felt duty bound to cancel, as I was recording with another lady singer from Somerset, whose husband is a cattle farmer. Yes we have been affected, yes it is awful, yes, it shouldn't have happened! If you can at all, may I implore you not to walk your dogs in public, nor to travel great distances, if people could adhere to this for 2 weeks (the incubation period) we hopefully would be able to contain it! - Having said that, and even though there is a ban on the movement of cattle, I saw a local farmer walk his sheep along the road to another field on Tuesday - how can we hope to contain it with idiots like that? Sadly yours, Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 03:08 PM

The farm I worked on in the 60's was protected from a Foot and Mouth outbreak, by spraying antiseptic on a patch of straw and hay laid on every approach. With each track and road covered this way, no vehicle could come on or off the farm without cleaning the tires. We processed and delivered fresh milk every day, and had to be very carefull. The vet who looked after the herd, told us that the disease was probably carried by birds, such as starlings and pigeons. Terrible thing to happen, I saw beautiful horses and cattle destroyed by the thousands. Pray for a quick end or cure to this disease. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: Greyeyes
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 02:16 PM

Many sports events have been cancelled/postponed, including a major rugby international, which, if it is not rescheduled, (which it is intended to be at present) will cost the Welsh Rugby Union millions. But that's really trivia compared to the numerous livelihoods at stake.

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: nutty
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 02:15 PM

There is another posting in the forum to say that Crediton Folk Festival in Devon has been cancelled but as yet I have not heard of any others - although the desease is still spreading - so only time will tell

I am not affected as I live at the seaside but have been talking to all kinds of people who have come to exercise their dogs on the sands, as all the country walkways are closed

Subject: RE: BS: foot and mouth
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 02:12 PM

i POSTED YESTERDAY THAT dOLLY THE CLONED SHEEP HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED AND PUT IN ISOLATION. iRONIC - tHE MOST TECHNICALLY ADVANCED ANIMAL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH FALLS VICTIM TO AN ANCIENT MALADY.

Mother Nature is thumbing her nose at us.

Megan,
According to news reports thousands of animals are being slaughtered in order to prevent the spread of the disease. Three or four countries have outbreaks. The entire meat industry including many small family owned farms is in jeopardy. The financial losses will be staggering. And any industry involving animals - horse shows and races, circuses, zoos, etc. could find themselves in the middle of the mess. A disaster.

Subject: foot and mouth
From: Megan L
Date: 03 Mar 01 - 02:03 PM

Once again this horrible disease is sweeping through the UK, comming of the boat today we had to drive over disinfectant soaked carpets and several local events have been cancelled.

Has this affected any catters? remember I said foot and mouth not foot in mouth the cases of the latter are far to common.