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Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II
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Subject: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:28 AM There's a long loading time due to lots of text in Part One, so I thought we'd go to Part Two early. Here is PART ONE. There are numerous past threads with hymns and links to hymns. To find these, enter that word [hymn] in the filter box, set the filter's time setting to as far back as you care to go, and have fun. Don't get lost now! Search Mudcat first (DT and Forum) if you are looking for hymn lyrics. If they aren't here, I hope you will post them. Next bet is the CYBER HYMNAL. (If you find other great hymn links, please post them.)
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: mousethief Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:32 AM Is this a mudcat thread or the Library of Congress? I think I made a wrong turn a few blocks back. This past Sunday was the Sunday of the Cross. In it we consider the cross as the Instrument of our salvation. We sing these funky hymns (which I don't have any with me right now, alas) where we address the cross as if it's a person, and at one point we even say, "I'm addressing you as if you were a man." Crazy stuff. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:44 AM Dang, some of my favorites AREN'T in the cyberhymnal! Methinks I need to get with Jeremy (our music minister) and put them all down, words and tunes! |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:50 AM Matt, ask him if they are in a Roman Catholic equivalent to CyberHymnal, would you? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:00 PM Well, the hymnal we use is a green book called "Gather". I'm pretty sure it's non-denominational. Our Newman Center is on VERY good terms with the Wesleyan (Methodist) Student Center on campus...in fact, they're the only other student religious organization that doesn't regard us as a bunch of backward statue-worshipping Catholics. We have the Wesley gang come over to Mass at Newman all the time, and when we sing, they know all the songs. So the songs can't be strictly Catholic. Lol...we's gonna have a weekend party with the Wesley gang this weekend. SLEEPOVER!!!! --Matt |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:34 PM OK, MR, ask them what the online source is. Yer gonna sing at the sleepover, right? I mean, YOU? Geetar? Fiddle? And where is my rock gospel compilation tape, BTW? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:47 PM Um...umm...umm!! OK I haven't made it yet! Wahh! Can I put a rock gospel field holler with electric guitar on there, even if it IS called "Shitbag 9"? Cuz it's really cool! Let's see...I'd have on it:
Shitbag 9 --Gomez Hmmm...that's all I can think of right now! And you bet I'm gonna bring my guitar...but like my best bud Ryan says about me "We both can sing over 1000 songs, but Matt knows 1000 songs that I don't!" I can't help it I like indie Brit rock that's obscure at best in America!! Lol!! |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:59 PM Matt-- whatever YOU think it should have, put it on. If it comes across as the RealDeal to you, go for it. Make two if you can so Hardi, Monica, and I can fight over who gets the one we will keep one for driving around with! (Our tape to tape duplicator is smoked and not yet replaced.) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 01 - 02:14 PM Sang today: Tramp on the Street I Am a Pilgrim A Beautiful Life Keep on the Sunny Side Great Speckled Bird Life is Like a Mountain Railway (Life's Mountain Railway) I'm Using My Bible for a Roadmap ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Matt_R Date: 20 Mar 01 - 11:49 PM REFRESH! |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: mousethief Date: 21 Mar 01 - 11:04 AM like an arctic breeze. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Mar 01 - 11:41 AM Or a kiss of peace. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 21 Mar 01 - 11:44 AM Much MuchCooler!
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Mar 01 - 11:49 AM Freeze the Lord! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MY FAVORITE THINGS (parody for Lent) From: mousethief Date: 21 Mar 01 - 04:41 PM MY FAVORITE THINGS Tune: of the same name by Fr. Steve Moore, Episcopal priest and jongleur extraordinaire Sackcloth and ashes and days without eating, Mortification and wailing and weeping, A hair shirt that scratches, a nettle that stings, These are a few of my favorite things. Penitence, flagellants, mementi mori, Spending nights sleeping on rocks in a quarry, The sound of a cloak'd solemn cantor who sings, These are still more of my favorite things. Tossing and turning and yearning I'm spurning, Passions aflame like an ember-day burning, Corpus and carnis and wild drunken flings, Forsaken are they for my favorite things! When it's Christmas, When the tree's lit, When the cards are sent, I simply remember my favorite things, And then I can't wa-a-a-a-it 'til Lent. ------------ Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: mousethief Date: 21 Mar 01 - 04:48 PM Rats. I usually don't make that mistake. Trying again.
My Favorite Things
Sackcloth and ashes and days without eating,
Penitence, flagellants, mementi mori,
Tossing and turning and yearning I'm spurning,
When it's Christmas, --------- Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Mooh Date: 22 Mar 01 - 09:58 AM Yesterday, in the mail, I received "The Courage To Say No" 23 Songs for Lent and Easter (John L. Bell and Graham Maule, The Iona Community) published by GIA Publications Inc Chicago. This was a gift from my mother who knows me well. According to the title page there's a cd and cassette to go with the book, available from the publisher. The Iona Community, under the auspices of the Church of Scotland draws its members from both Protestant and RC, and resides in Africa, Australia, India, North America, and mainly in Britain. It is addressed in Glasgow. My favourites from this so far (I haven't played through the whole thing yet) are "What Wondrous Love Is This" and "Lay Down Your Head". Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 22 Mar 01 - 04:07 PM Alex, I confess, I just printed that for Hardi. Lent seems a bit long this year... Mooh, it sounds wonderful! Would you like to sign up for the group borrowing the gospel tape library? If you want more info on this, scroll up to the first post, for a link. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Mooh Date: 22 Mar 01 - 09:28 PM Susan. I also rec'd 3 other books of hymns of a similar nature, "Enemy of Apathy", "Love and Anger", and "Heaven Shall Not Wait". Fantastic stuff, but it will take me a few days to wade through it all. Btw, I've recently started to collect hymn books, so this is a real windfall for me. There are some amazing old and new hymn books available, and I feel like I know where I'm going when I read them, it's comfortable for me. Peace. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 22 Mar 01 - 11:49 PM Mooh, I have quite a few old ones too. Take a suggestion? I xeroxed all the tables of contents and put the xeroxes in a binder. Makes it easy to find a piece.... handle the fragile books less, and go right to the one I want. Or look up extra verses. It took me a long time to hear enough of them to know which hymn writers' work I would like, then I started looking for their pieces to try out. And little by little, I have had tapes come my way with melodies to learn to go with the ones I might not have otherwise caught. Found a lovely Fanny Crosby with the former trick, RESCUE THE PERISHING, and learned it note by note. Found another by hearing it-- it has looked so boring in the book-- WHISPERING HOPE. And GOD LEADS US ALONG-- heard it once and made it mine, could not rest till I had found it in several of my books. BAMMMM! Dive deep.... enjoy.... don't forget to post what you can, checking first and nabbing off Cyber Hymnnal when you can to skip unnecessary typing. Lucky you-- have fun! Oh and have you caught the Gaither Homecoming Hour on cable TV yet? Swear it's a heavenly song circle. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Mooh Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:24 AM Susan, good advice! Thanks. Xerox, the God of reproduction? Check out http://cpdl.snaptel.com/ for more. Peace. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Mooh Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:52 AM Sorry about the above post, folks. I meant to say that the link is to the Choral Public Domain Library. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: mousethief Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:42 AM Greetings again from your orthodox man on the street, reporting to you live from Eastern Orthodoxy this blessed Lent. This coming Sunday, as you all know, is not just the 4th Sunday in Lent, but also the Annunciation. Most of you also know that through most of the middle ages, March 25th was New Year's Day. Anyway, this is the 8th ode from the Canon for the Anunciation, which shows very well a common form of hymnody in the Orthodox Church, viz., a sort of "historical fiction" in which a conversation which we have no, or only a skeletal, record of is imagined in full and played out. So here we have the discussion between the Virgin Mary (here also called "Theotokos" (thay-o-TOE-kohs), which means "God-birthgiver") and the angel Gabriel. These odes are sung to one of 8 "tones" which the choir (and much of the congregation) has memorized. The text has markings to indicate where known "turning points" in the melody occur with these particular words. Thus, the choir has before them only the words, no music, and fits melody to words as they go along. But I digress. This piece is very unusual in that it's antiphonal by gender. Very little of our hymnody is sung this way. I like it especially for the picture of married love it gives, depicting it as a very good thing, not as something dirty or evil. -----------------------------------------------------
Canon for the Annunciation (tone 4)
All: The offspring of the Theotokos All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Men: "Hearken, O pure Virgin Maid: All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Women: "All mortal thought is overwhelmed," All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Men: "See, your difficulty is resolved," All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Women: "Childbirth comes from mutual love: All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Men: "O holy Virgin," replied the Angel, All: Most holy Theotokos, save us!
Women: "You appear to me to speak the truth," ---------- Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: Bernard Date: 25 Mar 01 - 01:07 PM I Watch the Sunrise lighting the sky, casting its shadows near. And on this morning, bright though it be, I feel those shadows near me CHORUS But you are always close to me following all my ways. May I be always close to you following all your ways, Lord. I watch the sunlight shine through the clouds warming the earth below And, at the mid-day, life seems to say: I feel your brightness near me. For you are always... I watch the sunset fading away lighting the clouds with sleep. And as the evening closes its eyes I feel your presence near me. For you are always... I watch the moonlight guarding the night, waiting till morning comes. The air is silent earth is at rest only your peace is near me Yes, you are always... Words by John Glynn Music by Colin Murphy (Verses and choruses are the same pattern) C / / / |Em / / / | F / / / |C / / / | F / / / |C / / / |G / / / |G7 / / / | C / / / |Em / / / | F / / / |C / / / | F / / / |C / / / |G / / / |C / / / | MIDI file: I_WATCH.MID Timebase: 120 TimeSig: 4/4 24 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: JUDAS AND MARY (Sydney Carter) From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Mar 01 - 02:52 PM In Part One of this thread, Mudcatter "sian of west wales" contributed a lovely item and then Joe Offer found a source and an additional verse. (CLICK HERE to go see it.) We did it last night, with a new verse to replace the last copyrighted verse, to fit what we thought was the sense of the song more accurately as a Lenten piece. We made a few other minor adjustments as well in the verses, to ease a few syllables to more singable. Here is the whole thing as we did it. Sian had a version of the tune from memory (and Joe Offer has the the actual tune), which I hope can be posted somehow. But it also fits the MAID ON THE SHORE TUNE, and I have included chords for that tune below, as well. ~S~ JUDAS AND MARY (Sydney Carter; last verse by Susan Hinton) Said Judas to Mary, "Oh, what will you do With your ointments so rich and so rare?" "I'll pour them all over the feet of my Lord And I'll wipe them away with my hair," she said. "I'll wipe them away with my hair." "Oh, Mary, Oh Mary, but think of the poor This ointment, it could have been sold. And think of the blankets, and think of the bread You could buy with the silver and gold," he said. "You could buy with the silver and gold." "Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll think of the poor, Tomorrow," she said, "not today For dearer than all of the poor of the world Is my love who is going away," she said. "My love who is going away. Said Jesus to Mary, "Your love is so deep Today you may do as you will. Tomorrow, you say, I am going away But my body I leave with you still," he said "My body I leave with you still." "The poor of the world are my body," he said, "To the end of the world they will be; And every kind deed you may do for the poor In truth you are doing for me," he said; "In truth you are doing for me." "My body will hang on the cross of the world Tomorrow," he said, "not today. And the love Mary bears in her heart as she weeps Will wash all her sorrow away, away, Will wash all her sorrow away." (C) Galliard Publications
CHORDS, using tune MAID ON THE SHORE SH |
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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: HIGHER GROUND From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Mar 01 - 03:08 PM (In the post just previous, I should have put the copyright line above the last verse, which is new.) Iris Dement has recorded this item with her mother singing melody and Iris on harmony, as she learned it growing up. If you have ever heard that version, you'll know what I mean when I say that the tonal quality we we approximated last night was similar! ~S~
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: MMario Date: 25 Mar 01 - 07:55 PM it was interesting singing higher ground - 'course it would have been easier if someone had chosen a single melody for the verse - though I think she did do two verses to the same melody... *grin* kept me on my toes tho... |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Mar 01 - 08:21 PM That was a SECRET! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: sian, west wales Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:15 AM Love the last verse, girl! But F/Gm? Blasted autoharpists ... < sian |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:35 AM Be Thou Transposed! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: sian, west wales Date: 28 Mar 01 - 04:07 AM ouch. sian |
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Subject: Lyr Add: I WANT TO WALK AS A CHILD OF THE LIGHT From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Apr 01 - 04:03 PM Well, I been singing a LOT. I have stuff to post from last week too but some of it is already in other threads. TONIGHT-- In honor of Johanna Van der Hiel, for whom Hardi conducted a funeral this morning this for an opening:
I WANT TO WALK AS A CHILD OF THE LIGHT SH After the Phos Hilaron, we will do ABIDE WITH ME, which we also sang at Hannie's funeral this morning. And finally, we'll be closing with this bluesy number in the style of the Gaither Vocal Band! Cuz hey! It's Palmy Sunday! ~S~ PALMS OF VICTORY Additional verses & edited by Susan O. Hinton I saw a weary pilgrim, In tattered garments clad, He was struggling up the mountain; It seemed that he was sad. His back was heavy laden, His strength was almost gone, But he shouted as he journeyed, DELIVERANCE WILL COME! Then palms of victory, Crowns of glory, Palms of victory I shall wear. The songsters in an arbor, That stood beside the way, Attracted his attention, Invited his delay. His watchword being "Onwards!", He stopped his ears and ran. He shouted as he sped right past, DELIVERANCE WILL COME! The summer sun was shining, The sweat was on his face, His garments worn and dusty, His step a slower pace. But he kept pressing onward For he was wending home, Still shouting as he traveled on, DELIVERANCE WILL COME! I saw him in the evening, The sun was sinking low. He'd overtopped the mountain, And reached the vale below. He saw the golden City, His everlasting home, And shouted loud as ever DELIVERANCE WILL COME! Before him lay a river, But o'er the narrow flood, A band of holy angels Flew from the throne of God. They bore him on their pinions Safe o'er the dashing foam, And joined his singing triumph, DELIVERANCE IS COME! At last, he'd reached the City Beyond the vale of sin. I saw the gate swing open, I saw them fly right in. And then that band of angels Carried him up to the throne! The heavenly shout: HOSANNA! DELIVERANCE HAS COME! This version and arrangement (C) 2001 Susan O. Hinton
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Apr 01 - 12:12 AM SO? What'chall been up to!? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: GUEST,WYSIWYG Date: 13 Feb 05 - 11:34 AM We're doing almost all Shaker music this year. I'm posting what we're doing as I prep them. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: mg Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:40 PM Some great old Catholic (and Lutheran?) Lenten hymns...first and foremost, O Sacred Head Surrounded. Use the old words por favor..oh agony and dying oh love for sinners free..when I checked the hymanl last night they had substituted pap. Also Come and mourn with me a while..very pretty minor key. And of course Stabat mater dolarosa..should be done in Latin but English words are not bad. And the spiritual, one day when I was lost.. mg |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music II From: keberoxu Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:24 PM 'tis the season ... |
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