Subject: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,Idle Musings Date: 11 Apr 01 - 11:59 AM There've been several occasions when I've wondered why some (all?) Mudcatters seem so different when you meet them from what they've projected on the forum. Question: Is what you "see" on the screen, REALLY what you get, when someone meets you in person, or talks to you on the phone? |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:03 PM Different? Are you kidding? I've met 5 'Catters and they are exaclty like they are on here! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: MMario Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:10 PM I was just thinking the same Matt. - and I'm up to....uhmmmm -- well it's over a dozen and less then two dozen I think... |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Jeri Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:13 PM I've had the opposite experience. Most of the Mudcatters I've met have had personalities that were consistent with the personality they seem to project on screen.
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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Hollowfox Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:18 PM I've had neither contradictions nor unpleasant surprises when meeting any Mudcatters face-to-face, at least not yet. Say, Idle Musings, why don't you join, so we can get to know you? |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: JudeL Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM There used to be a poster on the wall at work that said: I know you think you understood what I said the problem is ... What I said is not what I meant definitly one for those of us ( myself included) that suffer from foot in mouth and brain out of gear disease |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Rick Fielding Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM Well I've met about thirty five now, and most are pretty consistent with their Cyber-face. Little Hawk is much quieter and reserved than he is around here. Carol C. seems shyer in person. Peter T is funnier. Catspaw is MUCH MORE RESERVED! Bert is MUCH MORE ENGLISH! I swear a LOT more (but in a harmless way!) and often play the fool to get laffs and loosen folks up. Jeri is shy in person and VERY smart (as she is on MC) Everyone else seems 'bout the same to me. Rick |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Bert Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:24 PM Gor Blimey! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:27 PM I was once told, by someone I had met online and then in person, that I was the most consistent between my online and in-person "personalities" of anybody they had ever met. I took it as a compliment. Alex |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM And we ALL know who that was!! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:33 PM Actually you don't; this was on a BBS in Silverdale, Washington. Alex |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amergin Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:36 PM Well, I have met a few Catters....and there were no disappointments there....in fact they turned out better.... |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:42 PM Spaw could only. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Pseudolus Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:02 PM I'm much thinner online than I am in person..... Frank |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:12 PM LOL! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:20 PM I.M., from what they've projected on the forum My experience has been that very few people here "project" a persona of themselves on this forum. Do you? Since I took WYSIWYG as my Mudcat name, I suppose I would hope that this is true of me, and I think nearly everyone who has taken the time to get to know me (including some who had flamed me once upon a time) would say that it is. One thing implied in my name, BTW, is that what one chooses to see if often all they "get." You might want to think about it from that viewpoint for a bit. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Naemanson Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:52 PM I've met a few 'Catters and generally you are seeing the real thing here. Some are more reserved in real life but that is as would be expected owing to the nature of the medium. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Lyrical Lady Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:19 PM I've only met one mudcatter ... and he is just as sincere and helpful in real life as he is 'on-line' ... I find him to be much sweeter and yes... even a bit shy in the real world. LL |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amergin Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:21 PM Oh and I forgot to mention....I'm alot sexier in person than I am here..... |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:36 PM I am generally more or less the same, but as Naes rightly points out, the medium makes the difference at times. One on one with friends I rarely get too nutso and enjoy the listening and the easy camaraderie. My sailing partner of many years and I would often spend hours with fewer than 10 words spoken. But as the audience increases I get more into the spirit of games and quick reponses or outrageousness. Maybe its the latent class clown thing or something. Add in a few folks who can be either ribbed or embarassed and I'm on. Its all me, just at different times. I think that's true here too. On some threads with only limited interest and few participants, I'm a lot more reserved than on one that's likely to draw a crowd. Its not so much an "image" or a "persona" as it is different ways of reacting to different situations. Spaw -- oh yeah, one more thing Cincinnati....
B O O G E R ! ! ! ! ! ! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Hollowfox Date: 11 Apr 01 - 02:37 PM I am too, Pseudolus. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Rick Fielding Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:29 PM Well, since this is the day to talk about Catspaw, I WILL say I didn't expect him to have a broad Southern accent. And Gawd help me, even though I know Big Mick is 100% Amurrican, I DID expect him to have an IRISH accent!! Sure and Begorrah. Rick |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: JedMarum Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:39 PM I have met several Mudcatters and all, it has strikes me, match very closely to the personalities I knew on-line. No surprises. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: CarolC Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:55 PM Well, Rick, you're a lot of fun in the Mudcat, but you're even more fun in person. I think your fun kind of spontenaity works really well in the 3D world.
Yeah, I admit it. I'm a little shy... Surprise! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:58 PM I met Rick Fielding last year at a concert he gave. He seemed as nice in person as on Mudcat and the music was great. But the smell of the ciggies on his breath: PHOOEY, PHOOEY, PHOOEY! |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Murray MacLeod Date: 11 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM I have never (to my knowledge) met another Mudcatter, but after having perused the Photo Album, I am struck by the fact that while most of the women look wonderful, the men whose postings make me laugh the most are all really ugly bozos. Murray
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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Rick Fielding Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:26 PM Damn! Where were those Certs when I needed them? Oh well, I'm not PROUD of being addicted. One less ticket sold, next time! Smokey the Bear |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amergin Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:28 PM Ya know Rick, there's already a support group thread going on...... |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:30 PM Proud to be ugly. :-) ALex |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Peg Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM I swear about as much in person as I do online... ;) |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Sorcha Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:52 PM I do try, but deep down inside I really am an intolerant bitch.....I just don't express it often. More on line than in person, but not near as often as I think it!! It might be called maturity, but more likely it is self preservation.
I like being helpful, I like "providing" whether it be info, food, or what ever, but I cannot tolerate stupidity. Ignorance is fixable, and quite forgiveable, but I don't deal well with stupidity.(Uhh, what I mean here is the sterotypical "blonde/ValleyGirl syndrome--not a handicapped defiency, OK) Bottom line is, I like to think I am an archetypal "MOM" , I want to help and fix it, but you have to help too. I have no idea if that is how I really come across here or not....."if we could see oursleves as other see us"... I think we should ask bill/sables; he has met more of us in person than anyone else, hasn't he? |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Bill D Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM I talk easier than I type, but I try VERY hard to project my mood, expression, attitude online....hence all the dots, underlinings, CAPS, *grins*...etc...... I make an attempt to make the sentence you read 'sound' like me talking, as I really hate being mis-understood. Since I attend the FSGW Getaway, I have met 20-30 or so Mudcatters, and most of them were pretty close to what I expected, some a bit shyer, some less. I do note that there are folks whom I admire & respect, but whom I doubt very much I would be 'buddies' with in person....just different approaches to conversation, life and 'personal space' issues. And there are a few I'd like VERY much to know better.....I think... *grin*) |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Big Mick Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:28 PM I don't know how I come off in person as opposed to here. Probably the biggest difference is that I tend to share very deep feelings here. I liken it to writing in a journal and then letting my friends read it so they know my innermost feelings. Might seem odd, but I liken writing in the threads to sharing music. It is a way for me to let others see me, the real me, and not just the physical image I project. Sometimes it gets me in real trouble. What that translates out to when I meet others is that I have seen their hearts and their feelings. The friendships that have blossomed out of that are too numerous to mention. And the day that I meet THE FAIR ONE, well, I will have to go to confession for sure....................LOL. HEY FIELDING.............waddya mean I don't have a brogue???????????????????? All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:39 PM Geeziz Mick.....I thought you had to confess sin, not making mouth noises sounding like "homidahomidahomida" and fainting dead away! I mean like, uh, are you sure that's a sin? Spaw |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: alison Date: 11 Apr 01 - 11:40 PM lol any of the ones I have met have been absolutely lovely. In the last year I met Mike Ireland, Annaroi, and TerryK, all lovely men........... looking forwar to meeting a lot more.... maybe some year I'll tour the US......... slainte alison |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,#1 Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:02 AM Hey, mousethief. Has everyone from Bremerville-by-the-Sound moved to Silverdale yet? The place just wasn't the same after Ed. Bremmer died. My sister worked for him for a while, but Bremerville had already started ti disintegrate. Downtown Bremerville moved to Silverdale Mall and the people in town followed. It looked like about 3/4 of them had moved the last time I was there. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,#1 Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:06 AM Forgot to ask if anyone here knew of the famous mathematician that coined 'cyber' (as in cybernetics)? |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: katlaughing Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:33 AM This looks like an interesting article on the mathematician in question. This has some very interesting info with links to more info about several of the important people connected to cybernetics. Bill Sables, Allan C, and Sorcha were even more than I'd hoped for, in person, and very much like what I'd expected based on their postings. I knew Wyo Woman in 3D a little bit before Mudcat, but grew to know her even better because of Mudcat and can safely say she is very much in 3D as she is here! There is no doubt in my mind that when I finally do get to meet several of the Mudcatters I feel closest to, that they will be just as I know them to be, probably better as they will have real arms to hug with and bod I can hug!:-)
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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amergin Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:36 AM So are you saying that Scorch is even ornerier in person than she is here? |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: GUEST,#1 Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:44 AM I looked at a few of Norbert Weiner's books, but they weren't easy reading. The first started out on transformation properties of Abelian groups, as I remember. Shannon's 'Information Theory' is a bit easier, and I still have my copy of the original 1954 edition. The hitch is it's all about communication of messages, and ways to code them that minimizes the chances of noise distorting the messages, and has nothing to do with what an intelligent layman would call information. It paved the way to checking that's done here and on computer files by doing such things as cyclic redundancy checks, and such. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: mousethief Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:51 AM Yeah, Bremerton isn't quite as vibrant as it was before they built the Kitsap Mall. But it's still a lovely town, and really no less lovely for being quieter these days. Let the noisy mall-oriented types move away. If my job and family didn't conspire as they do to keep me in Sumner, I'd move to Bremerton in a flash. Alex |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Lepus Rex Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM Hmm. I don't think I post enough here to really have a 'Mudcat personality.' But in general, my 'online personality' is a lot like my real life version, but a bit more reserved. When people first meet me (in real life), I guess they might think I seem weird, and shy. Then as they get to know me, they find out that not only am I weird and shy, but that I'm also: Violently moody; Freakishly compassionate; Short-tempered; Un(anti)amitious; Immature; Puritanical (no, not in a religious way); Agnostic (yes, in a religious way); True Neutral (Heh-heh, D&D, *snort*); Opinionated; Hard to enjoy a television program with; Better in small doses; Fiercely loyal; Guilt-ridden; Not quite as dumb as you think; Not quite as smart as I think; Fucking long-winded, eh?; Ah, yes. Vulgar and loud-mouthed, too...; Etc. Like I said, I don't post here all that much, so I'm not sure how much of my real-life personality shows through. But if it doesn't, now you know. ;) ---Lepus Rex |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amergin Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:08 AM Alex, I think the area you live in is rather lovely..... |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: fat B****rd Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:14 AM LIke most people i onl;y have an inkling of how others perceive me, and if i do get told something i don't like i only deny it in public and want to kill whoever said it in private. i like a certain anonymity which is provided by the Mudcat. but i must own up to a certain amount of hurt feelings if cyber-rebuked. PS would the guy who busks with his 12 string in York post again as i'll be visiting soon. |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Gervase Date: 12 Apr 01 - 07:02 AM Pompous pedantic curmudgeon online, pompous pedantic curmudgeon in the flesh; that's me. One thing about meeting 'Catters in the real world is that, having known them from their postings, a lot of the initial gaucheness and awkwardness is already out of the way and there's a feeling that you know them already. And another good thing about an online folk club (speaking as someone who doesn't use PalTalk - I must get around to rigging one of the Macs to use it one day...) is that in cyberspace no-one knows how badly I sing! Mind you, I got a shock when I realised that Liz the Squeak was actually a 6ft 4in prop forward with a bushy moustache and a duelling scar, and that Micca was a dead ringer for Julie Andrews... :^) |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Murray MacLeod Date: 13 Apr 01 - 04:17 PM Liz the Squeak's voice certainly doesn't sound as though it is emanating from a 6ft 4 in prop forward. Maybe that is just her speaking voice, I haven't heard her sing yet ..... Murray |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Bagpuss Date: 13 Apr 01 - 05:57 PM Just wondering - any of the people who have met me IRL - I have no idea whether I come across the same online as IRL. So please tell me - was I what you expected (some people thought I was male till they met me....)? Bagpuss |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Amos Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM One big difference is that my cyber-self is madly in love with some of the gentler members of the Mudcat; but in real life, of course, that doesn't happen. Oh, and my cyber self is planning to start a religion based on bosom worship, while my real self would never do such a thing, and even finds the notion of a Temple of the Divine Mammary a bit off...at least, off the straight and narrow! :>) A |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Bagpuss Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM I construct better sentences in real life... Bagpuss |
Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh. From: Little Neophyte Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:31 PM Every Mudcatter I've met seems to fit the golden slipper. Now lets see...... I was blinded by the brilliant light of Peter T's intelligence and I would nik name him Bashful of the seven dwarfs for sure. Jeri is a straight shooter in life too. Did you learn that in the Army Jeri? She also exuberates such warmth. She makes me feel safe and I would seek her out as a trust worthy friend. Flattop has a dry sharp wit that is balanced with a warm attentive smile. Mig Mick's name should be marketed in a line of Gund Teddy Bears. The man is so kind and generous, he could melt an iceberg with the love radiating off him. There have been others I've met. That is just a starter. I must say that old saying has much truth to it.....'What you see is usually what you get'. Little Neo
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