sexyone

Subject: sexyone
From:
Date: 21 Nov 97 - 11:00 PM

hello, any lesbians here?

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 22 Nov 97 - 12:02 PM

No,just us folkies.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Ole Bull
Date: 22 Nov 97 - 07:05 PM

Same thing?

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Helen
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 12:52 AM

Not if the folkies are male

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 01:26 PM

some of us are 'modal folkers', if that helps

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 03:14 PM

Well, some are Mixedup Lydians.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 04:57 PM

Why are we even bothering to answer this person? Let's leave it as a music site for all. For those who want to talk about sex of any sort, there are other places to go. This shouldn't be it. Let the thing die and fall off the list.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 05:14 PM

How do we call Max to erase a thread?

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 05:34 PM

we aren't answering this person anymore-we are just indulging ourselves in banter to highlight the ludicrous nature of the situation. I thought it was cute..but you can't plese everyone.If Max wants to erase it, fine.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 07:04 PM

Check out the Hitler's Genitals post...maybe you can get something going with one of them....

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Elwooddelta
Date: 23 Nov 97 - 10:08 PM

I heard that Hitler was a Lesbian.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Bert
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 04:00 PM

A great thread. I needed a chuckle.

Aren't we a shy lot though? Where are all the NAMES???

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 05:05 PM

We say all these dumb things and you want names?

Subject: RE: sexyone
From:
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 06:05 PM

We're kickin ass and takin names!

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Helen
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 06:33 PM

I can't help thinking how annoying it must be for the *person* (I'll give him/her the benefit of the doubt - could be *mensch* like us) who posted the original thread to read all of our facetious side-stepping of the original question. Like trying to have a productive discussion with a politician about a pressing social need. All you get back is some fancy footwork and some hot air.

Hmmm. Does that sound like a folkie session by any chance? A bit of dancing and some wind instruments. ;->

Helen

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 06:49 PM

heck, I actually spent some time...(maybe 45 seconds)...trying to think of a genuine Lesbian folk song...but other than transvestite sailor boys/girls, I couldn't...(one of the few subjects that I CAN'T find a song for pretty quickly..since folkies will sing about almost anything.)

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Alex
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 07:05 PM

Hi there, I'm from Scotland. What part of Lesbia are you from?

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Nonie Rider
Date: 24 Nov 97 - 08:32 PM

Actually, my (bi) younger sister did a pretty good new lesbian song, with strong traditional style; it's set to "The Irish Sea" as performed by Clam Chowder, with new lyrics by a young woman whose best friend/lover is being forced by her father to marry a nobleman's son. It's an entirely traditional-style lament, and rather moving.

But no, I certainly don't know of any actual traditional gay folk; 's the sorta thing you didn't advertise in most of these times and places.

Of course, a lot of trad stuff is easy to adapt to the theme; just have the other gender sing it, with feeling. Heard a charming young man at a recent SF convention singing all those old favorites like Cripple Creek:

Goin' over Cripple Creek as fast as I can;
Goin' over Cripple Creek to see my man.
I'll hug him and kiss him...

--Nonie

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Frank in the swamps
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 02:34 AM

At first, I was appalled to see that any of my mudcat pals were actually responding to this plea from a genital obsessive, like someone pointed out, there are plenty of other places for that stuff; but it looks like we may be on to a new hunt. There is an old vinyl L.P. called "kinky, straight & gay". I've actually got a copy that I've never heard, I bought it at a flea market sometime after the ascendancy of c.d's. and since I currently don't have a working turntable it sits with my pile of beloved- but-never-played old records. I do remember hearing an old blue line however, (Elwoodelta, c'mon, you got blues tunes bustin' out all over) with the line....

" If I cain't find me a woman,

I'll find me a sissy man" Let's go hunting! Frank.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Earl
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 10:11 AM

I can't think of any traditional lesbian songs either but here's a verse from Blind Blake's "Righteous Blues" from the 20's:

I met a funny fellow who didn't like girls
Painted his face and wore his hair up in curls
He was righteous, he was righteous
Righteous, righteous, lawd lawd lawd

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Earl
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 10:19 AM

I just thought of one:

Two old maids lyin in bed
First one turned to the other and said
Honey let me be your salty dog

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Dale Rose
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 11:59 AM

The song Frank is referring to is Sissy Man by (no foolin') Josh White, recording as Pinewood Tom, 1935. It is on Columbia's 4CD Roots n' Blues set, The Retrospective 1925-1950.

Subject: Hitler's Genitals
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 06:40 PM

The Mussolini lyric was sung to A-Tisket, A-tasket, as I recall

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Helen
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 07:39 PM

Hey Dick, How did the posting for the Hitler's Genitals thread get into this one? Is someone trying to tell us something?

I can think of a couple of female singer/songwriters who fall within the ambit of folk music, and who have written really good gay women's songs.

One is Meg Christian from the U.S. The album (vinyl) which I have is from the late 70's and there are some beautiful pieces of music on it, lyrics, melodies, arrangements, everything.

The other one is Judy Small, an Australian, who writes brilliantly funny lyrics, as well as good social action songs and social commentary.

From memory I think that there are only 2 or 3 of hers in the DT database - maybe 'Mothers, Daughters, Wives', 'Walls & Windows', and the 'IPD' - not to be read/listened to by squeamish males unless wearing full codpiece protection. ;-> Please bear in mind that she sings it with a big grin rather than a sneer.

I'd like to see more Judy Small lyrics in the database if anyone knows where to find them. 'Bridget Evans', a song about women in Britain protesting at a nuclear site is excellent too.

Helen

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Barry
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 09:46 PM

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Elwooddelta
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 10:32 PM

Ok Frank, You asked for it . . . . .

I'm drinkin' water out of a hollow log. I'm drinkin' water out o' that hollow log. My baby left with my sister and all I got's my ol' dog.

My baby left with my sister Oh, Woh, Woh my baby left with my sister And I think she might'a took my momma too.

I best get down that road. Yes, I best get down that number 61 road. Gotta save my granny 'fore she git's her too.

(Da-da-da-daaaa)

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 10:44 PM

and I always heard that 'old maid'line as

"two old maids, sittin' in the sand,
"each one wishin the other was a man"

so that wont really do..(I am supposing there actually are Lesbian songs available at some feminist bookstore, but I still can't think of one from 'trad', though I bet there are innuendoes in some...)

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Elwooddelta
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 11:31 PM

Bill

Happiness is getting old and not caring if you're politically correct or not. Actually that's why I like the bluEs, because it's not politically correct. :} ;}

We sir are not SNAGS (sensitive new age guys) are we?

EWD

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 97 - 10:52 AM

I sir, am a sensitive 'old age' guy...*grin* ..which means I'll sing anything... in the right company....

I've always wondered why some very sensitive, shy, modest ladies will laugh and clap at some of the raunchiest 'dirty blues'....maybe it's a safe outlet

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: leprechaun
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 12:57 AM

How about, "She Moves Through the Fair," sung by Sinead o'Connor, or any female singer, or When Irish Eyes Are Smiling, (All the world seems bright and gay.) I read another set of lyrics, can't remember quite where, in which somebody lamented the dastardly deed done to Roger Casement, the gay Irish patriot, in the assumption that he had been framed by his British inquisitors. Chances are he was just "outed" at a time when such lifestyles were not tolerated.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Jen
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 01:05 AM

When Sinead O'Connor sang "She moved through the Fair", she changed the "she" to "he", if we're talking about The Long Black Veil Chieftans CD. Tape. Album. Whatever.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: leprechaun
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 02:54 AM

Sorry, Sinead.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Frank in the swamps
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 01:13 PM

I found a neat little book by Brian Robertson, called "Little Blues Book." It's published by Algonquin books of Chapel hill and has lot's of groovy Blues trivia including the following verses....

Women loving each other,

they don't think about no man.

They ain't playing it secret no more,

these women playing a wide open hand.

Memphis Willie, title unknown.

I dreamed last night I was far from harm,

woke up and found my man in a sissy's arms.

My man's got a sissy, his name is "Miss Kate."

He shook that thing like jelly on a plate.

Ma Rainey, "Sissy Blues"

I didn't find either song in the database. Gotta go find some Ma Rainey records. And who is Memphis Willie?

Frank I.T.S.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Ole Bull
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 06:27 PM

First of all, to Dick, above, Mussollini's genitals are sung to "Whistle While You Work"...Hitler is a jerk... Second of all, and since some appear serious about this subject, the topic, if not explicit in the lyric, of some of traditional songs is transvestitism; perhaps considered to be not such a sexual big deal by our ancestors but rather quite a show tradition. One of the songs I'm talking about is "Lucy Long" which in it's evolved form, "Miss Lucy" took fist place mention in the previous thread on Naughty Kid songs. It's to accompany a cross- dressing show. But maybe that's for another thread, not about Lesbos or even sex, but rather the traditional rite of role reversal, et. al. More music history, please!!

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Ole Bull
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 06:35 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot, what about all the Little Richard transvestite songs. The Lesbians got to catch up 'cause male transvestites have apparently dominated traditional music. Let's not move on to a domination thread, please...

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Jon W.
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 11:30 AM

Most of the traditional transvestite songs that I've heard are about women who dress up as men to go follow their loves to sea, war, etc. Hardly anything lesbian about that. For instance, Pentangle did a song about a sea captain feeling a strong sexual attraction to his cabin boy - turns out the cabin "boy" was a gal dressed up to follow her love to the New World.

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: rosebrook
Date: 06 Dec 97 - 01:54 AM

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Rosebrook

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Helen
Date: 06 Dec 97 - 08:19 PM

Thanks Rosebrook, It looks like an interesting site.

Helen

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Helen
Date: 06 Dec 97 - 11:29 PM

Rosebrook

That Ladyslipper women's music site is amazing! What a list of women musicians! And the sound samples mean that I can hear some of the musicians other cyberFolk have raved about like Ani di Franco and Loreena McKennitt, and heaps of others. Thanks.

Do you know about the Pleiades site for women? It is not a music site, but it has interesting stuff too. http://pleiades-net.com/

Helen

Subject: RE: sexyone
From: Haya
Date: 07 Dec 97 - 04:24 PM

there is a Chilkd Ballad I think it is called "Bessie Bell and Mary Gray" that is interpreted by some to be about lesbians. It is about two women living together anyway.

What aboiut the "who'se gonna shoe" songs ? "Sister can kiss my red ruby lips.. I don't need no man." of course this appears to be temporary and incestuous.