Help: Introduction for my Irish ballads

Subject: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: GUEST,lyric
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:02 PM

Greeting to you all,

Can you help me please, i want to write an INTRODUCTION for each of my Irish Ballads, a brief story or history of any of my Ballads would do, i would be very grateful if you could help me out,

I would also be very willing to share any of my Irish Ballads with the forum,

Thank you slainte, lyric.

TITLE A bunch of thyme
A jar of porter
A pair of brown eyes
A place in the choir
A rainy night in Soho
All for me grog
Biddy Mulligan
Black is the colour
Boston rose
Botany bay
Bunclody
Carrickfergus
Cockles and mussels
Dirty old town
Don't forget your shovel
Easter snow
Easy and slow
Fairytale of New York
Faithful departed
Far away in Australia
Fiddlers green
Finnegan's wake
Flight of earls
From Clare to here
Galway bay
Hiroshima Nagasaki
Home boys home
I'll tell me ma
Irish eyes are smiling
Irish soldier boy
Isle of Inisfree
Joxer goes to Stuttgart
Jug of Punch
Lakes of Pontchartrain
Many young men of twenty
McAlpines Fusileers
Messenger boy
Missing you
Nancy Spain
Natives
No Irish need apply
North & South of the river
Whskey in the jar
Whiskey on a Sunday
Wild mountain thyme
Ordinary man
Oro, se do bheatha abhaile
O'Sullivan John
Raglan road
Ride on
Sally Mclennane
Scorn not his simplicity
She moved through the fair
Slievenamon
Song for Ireland
Spancill hill
Streets of London
Streets of New York
Take me up to monto
The auld triangle
The band played waltzing Matilda
The black velvet band
The city of chicago
The cliffs of Dooneen
The crack was ninety in the isle of Mann
If your Irish come into the parlor
Song for the brave
Waltzing Matilda
The Galway shawl
The green fields of France
The holy ground
The Irish rover
The least we can do
The leaving of Liverpool
The mountains of Mourne
The Offaly rover
The old main drag
The parting glass
The raggle taggle gypsy
The rakes of Mallow
The rare old mountain dew
The rare old times
The rocky road to Dublin
The snowy breasted pearl
The Spanish lady
The star of the County Down
The sun is burning
The time has come
The town I loved so well
The voyage
The waxies dargle
The wild colonial boy
The wild rover
The women cried
Twenty one years
Viva la quinte brigada
Weila weila wallil

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: GUEST,lyric
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:06 PM

If you think you can help me, you can contact me by e-mail at [e-mail]

Thank you again.

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: MMario
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:23 PM

YOu will find discussion about most of them here at the forum. Try putting the title or significant lyrics into the digitrad and forum search box on the main page.

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:25 PM

I like the Clancy Bros intro to Wella Wallia, something about "children in the tenements are very wisechildren..."

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:28 PM

As MMario says, your first step would be to search the Digital Tradition and Forum, by typing each of these song titles (one at a time!) into the "Digitrad and Forum Search" on the main Forum page; most of them are very well-known, and have been discussed here in the past, so you'll find a lot of useful information about them that way.  Bear in mind, too, that some of them are not Irish, and several were written by people still living.

Good luck with your research, which you will find very interesting.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:32 PM

"This is an Irish ballad. If you've ever sat in the back of a smokey juke joint listening to George Jones and thinking about blowing your brains out.......you'll love it!"

Well it'd work for a lot of them........................

Spaw

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:54 PM

I can help you edit once you have researched and written them. I have edited stuff that is meant to be spoken, making what was meant to be read into what is easy to speak and hear. Let me know if you want to work one up to start with.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 02:57 PM

If you don't do your own histories, then who is to say if they are any good? It's much easier to find crap about old songs than good information. Even authorities screw things up, so you have to checkeverything.

The tune "Shein Sheis Shus Lum" is in 'Sources of Irish Traditional Music', I, #208, 1998. The is the earliest tune for any known Gaelic song that has a known tune. According to SITM the tune (and song) were sung by John Abell in his Stationer's Hall concert, and they reprinted it from Abell's 'A Collection of Songs in Several Languages', 1701. The song first appeared in 'The Merry Musician', 1716, the year of Abell's Stationer's Hall concert. Neither song (in any language) nor tune is in Abell's book of 1701 [Copy in Library of Congress.]

All the histories of the Irish and other songs in the Scarce Songs 1 and 2 files on my website are my research. Others have given more extensive histories of some songs there, but mine, I know, are as nearly as possible correct as far as they go.

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: GUEST,lyric
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:35 PM

Hi to all,

Thank you all for your response,

Susan! i have the words to all of the above songs, if you think you could help me with information on each song i would be very grateful,

Bruce 0! i would be very grateful if you would give me the address of your website so that i can get information for my songs, i am very keen to get a CORRECT version for each song, please contact me at [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: mousethief
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:41 PM

Lyric, beware! The idea of "one correct version" for any traditional song is something of a red herring. There are often numerous versions, and aside from provable errors in printing (say), it is usually impossible to decide which is more correct than any other. This is why Child lists so many variants of the ballads he catalogues.

Sure would love to hear you sing 'em -- when does your CD come out?

Alex

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:49 PM

Bruce O's site

Subject: RE: Help: INTRODUCTION for my Irish ballads
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:35 PM

Lyric, no, sorry, I can't help you with the research or drafting; but if you do the writing, I can edit them into a possibly more usable form.

~S~

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-Joe Offer-