Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc

Subject: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Helen
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 07:07 PM

Charley Noble made this request, but being a contrary wench I made the thread title more relevant. I've left a note in the St Albans thread to come here.

Helen

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=20907&messages=107 Subject: RE: St Albans - Aussie 'catters From: Charley Noble Date: 27-Apr-01 - 04:08 PM

Please start a new thread "St. Albans - Aussie 2001"; this one takes too long to load. I'd like to listen in as someone who might be visiting Sydney this October, and I'll be looking for pubs or other places where folks like you swap songs. I'm not even sure what Aussie Mudcatters look like. Cheerily, Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Help: Sydnebuy, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: JennieG
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 09:03 PM

Well Charley I suppose most of us look like normal people really.......
Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From:
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 08:04 AM

It is a little out of Sydney Charley, but Blackheath (in the Blue Mountains) has its folk meeting the first Thursday of every month, so there should be one on Oct 4 and Nov 1 of 2001. It meets at the "Ivanhoe Hotel" in Blackheath starting about 7pm. The "Ivanhoe" has accomodation as well as being the venue of the meeting.

Send me a personal email (my address is my mudcat codename) if you think there is a chance you will come to Blackheath.

Murray

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 10:27 AM

What coopertive folks! You ask for information and they provide some, to lure you closer so that they can get their claws and fangs into you...One of my favorite Sydney songs came out of an urban renewal battle in the 1970's:

In the early 1970's the inner city neighborhood of Wooloomooloo in Sidney, Australia, was threatened by massive urban renewal. The resistance by the residents; the cooperation gained from the building and trades union; the roles of the politicians, real estate speculators, and city planners; the battles with good squads and with the police; is all effectively presented in the documentary film Wooloomooloo. Sydney poet Denis Kevans and Builders Laborers organizer Seamus Gill were in the thick of the fight and livened things up with such great songs as this one, patterned after the old sailors drinking song "All for Me Grog."

Geoff Young of Sidney finally tracked the full lyrics of the song dowm for my co-conspirator "Landlady's Daughter;" Any clue if he is still alive and kicking?

I play 5-string banjo and sing with a songs of the sea group:www.rollandgoseasongs.com

We do have some old friends in Sydney who we'll be planning to stay with part of the time.

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Callie
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 01:45 AM

There's a great session on Friday nights ast the Shannon Hotel in Chippendale. I'm sure there will be lots of other gatherings of interest when you're here - keep in touch!

Callie

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 12:05 PM

Callie, how do the Friday (every friday?) night sessions at the Shannon Hotel run? Do people take turns, is there a coordinator, is it mostly tunes or songs, mostly singer-sonwriter or "traditional", or all of the above. How amny people generally turn up? Probably it is not smoke-free but we can deal with that if we know in advance.

Hope you had a great week-end festival.

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: alison
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 09:33 PM

check out this wonderful site set up and maintained by our very own Roo

Folk Australia

it'll tell you about the various clubs.. festivals etc...

give us more details closer to the time and we'll see what we can set up.....

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Callie at work
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 11:35 PM

Hi Charlie

The Friday night sessions are on EVERY Friday. There's someone appointed to make sure it runs smoothly and everyone gets a fair go. The feel of the session really depends on who turns up. Some nights there have been 50 people in there, other times 5 or 6. Usually there are about a dozen people. Lots of chorus songs. The rule about selecting songs is that there is no rule, but it tends to be trad English Irish & Scottish songs. One of the regular singers has an enormous repertoire of Irish songs (in Irish).

We have a secluded bit of the pub, away from the hoo-ha, and try to keep that section smoke-free.

If youu are able to describe what your ideal gathering would be, perhaps we could organise something for you on another night of the week also!

Callie

ps - on appearance: most Aussie Mudcatters have big grey ears and a pouch.

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 04:23 AM

G'day Charlie,

I'm not sure if you were asking after Denis Kevans and/or Seamus Gill ... or after Geoff Young. I see Denis fairly often, although he is living up in the Blue Mountains these days (pretty close to Murray, actually). He sends poems and songs fairly regularly to me as co-editor of the Bush Music Club's Mulga Wire / editor of Singabout.

I see Seamus Gill mostly when I am in Canberra - especially for the National Folk Festival (just past - Easter week). He was limping (temporarily, we hope) and fine otherwise.

I can't place Geoff Young (at least by name) probably because it took a while for me to get back in the scene in the '70s, after some years in Tasmania and working in the Snowy Mountains. I should run it past Len Neary (as close as there is to a coordinator for the Shannon sessions). Len and I were both in a big rowdy band of the '70s The Rouseabouts and Len has always been an inner suburbs boy (usually living within staggering distance of the pub session).

Anyway, I hope to see you out here in our Spring, next October.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Helen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 05:13 AM

Charley,

If you are interested in a trip to Newcastle, 100 miles north of Sydney, and a much nicer place to live (ducking for cover!!) I can organise a session or find one for you.

Helen

Subject: Lyr Add: ACROSS THE WESTERN SUBURBS (Kevans/Gill)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 10:50 AM

Thanks very much to all of you! We'll certainly keep you up to date with our travel plans; at this time we're thinking about staying 2 weeks, mostly in the greater Sydney area with side trips to rain forests and snorkling.

We're especially pleased to hear that Denis Kevans and Seamus Gill are still alive; we'd love to meet them and sing them the Portland, ME, adaptation of their song:

ACROSS THE WESTERN SUBURBS
(By Denis Kevans and Seamus Gill © 1973)

Tune: traditional All for Me Grog

Oh, me name it is Fred,
In Sydney born and bred,
And the inner-city used to be me home, boys,
But it's caused me heart to grieve
For I've had to take me leave,
Now across the Western Suburbs I must roam, boys.

Chorus:

Under concrete and glass,
Sydney's disappearing fast;
It's all gone for profit and for plunder;
Though we really want to stay,
They keep forcing us away,
Now across the Western suburbs we must wander.

Now where is me house,
Me little terrace house?
It's all gone for profit and for plunder,
For the wreckers of the town
Just came up and knocked it down;
Now across the Western Suburbs we must wander. (CHO)

Before I even knew it,
We were shifted to Mount Druitt,
And the planners never gave me any say, boys;
Now it really makes me weep,
I am just at home to sleep
For it takes me hours to get to work each day, boys. (CHO)

What's happened to the pub,
Our little local pub,
Where we used to have a drink when we were dry, boys?
Now we can't get in the door
For there's carpets on the floor,
And you won't be served a beer without a tie, boys. (CHO)

Now I'm living in a box
In the West Suburban blocks,
And the place is nearly driving me to tears, boys;
Poorly planned and badly built
And it's mortgaged to the hilt,
But they say it will be mine in forty years, boys. (CHO)

Now before the city's wrecked,
Those developers must be decked,
For it's plain to see they do not give a bugger;
Or we soon will see the day
If those bandits have their way,
We will all be driven out past Wagga Wagga.

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Helen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:14 PM

Hi Charley,

Newcastle is a beach side city, with rivers, lakes, forests, vineyards etc etc nearby in Lake Macquarie and the Hunter Valley.

Where are you from, by the way?

Helen

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Helen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:15 PM

Forgot to put in these two websites with info and pictures.

Click here

http://www.newcastle.infohunt.nsw.gov.au/visitor/index.cfm

Click here http://www.newcastletourism.com/

Helen

Subject: RE: Help: Sydney, October 2001 - pubs, clubs etc
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:42 PM

Helen et al,

We're from Maine, the little Kennebec River town of Richmond, once famous for building and sending square-rigged ships all over the world and for the last hundred years pretty much asleep.

I also sing with a sea music group called Roll & Go and you can sample some of our music from our website at:rollandgoseasongs.com

Newcastle sounds and looks great.