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Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir (trad. Australia) In Mudcat MIDIs: Spider from the Gwydir |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SPIDER FROM THE GWYDIR From: Bob Bolton Date: 13 May 01 - 09:46 AM G'day bbc wanted Aussie songs or poems about animals. Here is another of the items I had promised. This was originally a poem, so I have presented it in that form. It has acquired a few tunes over the years, but I don't have any of them down in dots. (I may have to do a bit of transcribing ...). Regards, Bob Bolton
THE SPIDER FROM THE GWYDIR |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Charley Noble Date: 13 May 01 - 01:20 PM Love them intrepid ecckks! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: bbc Date: 13 May 01 - 03:28 PM Thanks, Bob; these are great! bbc |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: MMario Date: 01 Jul 02 - 12:08 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Bob Bolton Date: 01 Jul 02 - 11:37 PM Er... G'day MMario ..., I see that you have refreshed this thread. You wouldn't bve dropping subtle hints about the (vaguely) promised tunes, would you ...? I do have one or two of the tunes in local folklore publications ... but none is quite the tune I first learnt. I will see what I can transcribe (my preference being for the tune I learnt c. 1962) ... and I may give others, if they have merit. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: MMario Date: 02 Jul 02 - 12:05 AM Would I do that? *urk* guess I did...
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Bob Bolton Date: 02 Jul 02 - 11:47 PM G'day again MMario, I did not think much of the collected tunes I turned up. I really need to dig out the one to which I learnt these words ... just on 40 years ago. I have it running through my brain ... now I have to get it focused on the keyboard and my music-writing program. I did suggest that I prefer to recite it, these days - like many other pieces, I have to weigh the relative values of singing and reciting - and this one needs to be recited, if for no other reason than the need to explain half the references to a modern, city-bound audience! Reggards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: Tune Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Bob Bolton Date: 24 Nov 02 - 04:59 AM Errr... G'day again ... ? MMario: I seem to have forgotten my promise to get down the dots ... until I stumbled across this today! Here is a MIDItext of the tune I learned about 40 years ago. Nowadays I prefer to recite it ... as I did last night at the Loaded Dog Folk Club - and was looking up the words for someone who wanted them ... and noticed that I had not got around to transcribing the dots.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:08 AM Bob's recitation went down a treat with the audience - so too did last month's recitation about the wonder horse. In fact the whole evening went down well - lots of good singing from the stage & the audience. sandra |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Bob Bolton Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:19 AM G'day again, Errr... well ... What Sandra means is that I recited the late John Manifold's great spoof of all those interminable tales of incredible horses - Incognito> ... a wonderful antidote to a particular school of "Bush poet"! I'd post the words - but: This is a Music site ... and they are still in copyright. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: MMario Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:50 AM thanks for the tune Bob! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: GUEST Date: 24 May 10 - 08:36 AM I know the first verse as: Down by the river Gwydir There lived a Red back Spider And he was just as mean as he could be And the place that he did dwell in Was an IXL Plum Jam tim Down by the showgrounds at Moree The rest apears to be the same...memory foggy...too many years! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Spider from the Gwydir From: Bob Bolton Date: 06 Jun 10 - 07:30 PM G'day GUEST of 24 May 19 - 08.36 AM, As far as I know, most reciters ... or singers of musical settings ... of this poem start from John Meredith's collected words from the notebook of the late R J Blumer of Clydd (a 'suburb' of Lithgow - a coal-mining town just over the Great Dividing Range, west of Sydney). Quite a number of singers set tunes to it ... and variations in words would often represent 'fitting' the words to a particular singer's tune or just their preference. It may be that the words you remember come from such a musical setting ... or just an individual reciter's memory of the poem ... or they may have come down entirely free of the "folk revival" (~1953 ... onwards)! I always used the Blumer words, which I got direct from John Meredith ... and I came to prefer the second collected set ... those left behind on a cassette recording of the the late Ernie Sibley, of Mudgee (a town further west and north of Lithgow) as they show a better knowledge of Moree ... and have a few more robust stanzas about the "sheila" - after she is bitten by the red-back spider! Regard(les)s, Bob |
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