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Lyr Req: Idlers and Skivers (Keith Marsden)

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GUEST,neil boulton 04 Jun 01 - 05:12 PM
IanC 06 Jun 01 - 06:29 AM
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Subject: knocking at the door,
From: GUEST,neil boulton
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 05:12 PM

can anyone tell me how to get lirics for knocking at the door? i think its by cockersdale or kieth marsdale


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Subject: Lyr Add: KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR
From: IanC
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 06:29 AM

Hi!

There's various songs with this name, so I may have the wrong one. Is this it?

Knocking On Your Door
from Jimmy Reed Is Back

I'm a-knockin' at your door, baby, wonderin' why I can't get in?
I'm knockin' at your door, baby, wonderin' why I can't get in?
I been knockin' at your door, baby, ever since I don't know when

Well, I ain't gonna leave, baby, I'm gonna knock, you have no doubt
Well, I ain't gonna leave, baby, honey, don't you have no doubt
Honey if, Jimmy Reed, can't get in, ain't nobody comin' out

The door's unlocked, the chains are down
Real quiet inside, can't hear a sound
If you asleep, everybody would know
You wake up er'ybody, by the way you snore
I know you're listenin', ev'ry word I say
If I can't get in, ain't nobody goin' away

I've been knockin' on the door, baby
Honey, how come I can't get in?
I've been knockin' on your door, baby
Ever since I don't know when

I hear ya man!

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: i need lyrics for knocking at the do
From: Les from Hull
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:13 AM

The song you want is called 'Idlers and Scivers' (I think)by Keith Marsden.


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Subject: need lyrics for knocking at the door
From: vectis
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 03:07 PM

Is the song you're after the one with the chorus:

We're knocking at the door, Knocking at the door
For a penny in the poor man's hat will no longer do
something or another attack of the brain fairy
For the knocking's nearly over then the door's coming through.

This is the version sung by Ron Spicer and I can get the words from the tape if they're the ones you need.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IDLERS AND SKIVERS (Keith Marsden)^^
From: Morticia
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 06:01 PM

I think this must be the one you mean.....well, I hope it is, I've been typing for bloody hours!


IDLERS AND SKIVERS
(Keith Marsden)

We're the idlers, we're the skivers, we're the undeserving poor
See how prettily we curtsy and we bow?
See us stand with cap in hand again outside the rich man's door
For the new Victorian age is dawning now
And we mind our manners as before, we watch our Q's and P's
We're grateful for the handout and we always try to please
And we will not raise our heads when they prefer us on our knees
For we're only idle undeserving poor

Chorus
But we're knocking at the door, we're knocking at the door
And a penny in the poor man's hand will no longer do
You'd better open wide and let us come in inside
For the knocking's nearly over and the door's coming through

We were jumped up little oiks and irks, the undeserving poor
When we found ourselves the masters for a day
For we'd fought and bled and died to help to win the second war
And we thought we'd earned the right to have our say
So we sang of New Jerusalem, they didn't like the song
They threw their spanners in the works and laughed when all went wrong
And we should have known they'd never let us be the masters long
Not the jumped up oiks, the undeserving poor

Then they taught us to be selfish, never had it so good poor
And they dangled such a tempting, juicy fly
And we saw their shabby goodies in an 'I'm Alright Jack' store
And we couldn't wait to rush inside and buy
For then money was the godhead and the only gospel greed
We sold our gains to meet the ad-man's non-existent need
With a mess of tatty trinkets and a pile of plastic beads
And we stayed the idle, undeserving poor

Still we trusted in their promises, we undeserving poor
When they said we march toward some sunlit plain
All the dark times were behind us, only golden days before
Then they turned into the same old lies again
For they gave the rope we asked for and we didn't have a care
They showed us to the scaffold, and we blithely climbed the stair
Then they kicked away the trap and left us hanging in the air
And we're hanging still, the undeserving poor

And if you've not yet enlisted in the army of the poor
Never fear, your call up papers on it's way
Or perhaps you think you're fireproof, well you'd better think some more
For your turn is coming soon some future day
They don't need you on the land now or on the factory floor
They won't even need you when they go and start the final war
Let's be ready when they start to ask what do they need you for?
When you're only idle, undeserving poor

But you haven't done your duty when you've sung about the poor
If you never raise a hand to ease their plight
If you sing the chorus louder, it might ease your conscience more
But pious thoughts do not excuse you from the fight
For the times are getting harder and we haven't seen the worse
They still foul the wells of plenty while so many die of thirst
And we will rebuild Jerusalem but clean the temple first
And they'll wish they'd taken pity on the poor.
^^


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: i need lyrics for knocking at the do
From: GUEST,neil bolton
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:08 PM

THANK YOU THANK YOU MORTICIA. Ive been searching for these lyrics for years. I think its one of the best socialst folk songs ever. it must have taken ages to type and im very greatfull. You must be a good socialist to persevere. there is another song ive been looking for called old joe's house, perhapse you could tell me how to find it? thanks again neil my e-mail is porter8s@yahoo.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: i need lyrics for knocking at the do
From: nutty
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 05:20 PM

Hi Neil ... you are discovering that Mudcat is a great place to be. It is usually better to start a new thread when asking for different chords or lyrics but it just so happens that I know " OLD JOE'S HOUSE " is written by SI KHAN and the lyrics can be found here

OLD JOE'S HOUSE (e-mail sent JRO)


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Subject: Corrections: Idlers and Skivers^^
From: GUEST,John O'Hagan --- Cockersdale.
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 06:02 PM

Many thanks to Morticia for taking the time and effort to type the words for 'Idlers and Skivers. This was one of the best songs ever written by Keith who dedicated it to 'Our Blessed Lady Margaret of Finchley. All Keith's songs are available in the book we wrote after his death--Picking Sooty Blackberries. I'll be happy to sell a copy to anyone out there - just ask.
Very minor corrections.
1.VERSE1. Handouts.
2.Chorus. Poor man's hat.
3.Verse2. Oiks and erks.
Died a lot to win etc
4.Verse3. To fill the admans'
5.Verse4. We marched towards
But it turned
As they showed
6.Verse5. Never fear you've call up papers on the way
Best be ready
7.Verse6. So we will rebuild^^

We hope to be in America in Oct/Nov.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: i need lyrics for knocking at the do
From: Morticia
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 02:06 AM

Thank you John.To be honest, I wasn't at all sure that this song was the right one or written by Keith Marsden, I found it on an old unmarked tape......amazing how many of those people who run folk clubs have, I find.


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Subject: Lyr Add: KNOCKIN' ON YOUR DOOR
From: GUEST,Tim
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:35 PM

There is a version of "Knockin' on Your Door" on the "Old & in the Way" album which is listed as a "traditional.” Hope this is helpful to someone.

KNOCKIN' ON YOUR DOOR

I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
I'm a-knockin' on your door. Please answer me.
Well, I've tried to make you realize, my darlin',
That no one else was ever meant for me.

Well, I remember, dear, you said that you'd always love me,
And you promised me your happiness so true,
But now you've gone away, dear, with another,
And I wonder if you feel the way I do.

I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
I'm a-knockin' on your door. Please answer me.
Well, I've tried to make you realize, my darlin',
That no one else was ever meant for me.

(Fiddle solo)

Well, I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
I'm a-knockin' on your door. Please answer me.
I never read the letters that you wrote, my little darlin'.
I'm sailin' far across the deep blue sea.

I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin',
To return the letters that you wrote to me.
I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
This time, honey, I'm sure things gonna be.

(Banjo solo)

So goodbye, my dear. I know you'll soon forget me,
And I hope that you find happiness so true,
But wherever you go, sweetheart, remember
That my love will always be the same for you.

I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
I'm a-knockin' on your door. Please answer me.
Well, I'm tryin' to make you realize, my darlin',
That no one else was ever meant for me.

(Mandolin solo)

I'm a-knockin' on your door again, my darlin'.
I'm a-knockin' on your door. Please answer me.
Well, I've tried to make you realize, my darlin',
That no one else was ever meant for me.


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Subject: RE: need lyrics for knocking at the door
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 02:02 PM

If you have the opportunity to get hold of 'Picking Sooty Blackberries
do so.Keith Marsden was one of the better writers of Folk Song in the British Folk Scene.His death was a tragic loss,but at least his songs are still around.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Idlers and Skivers (Keith Marsden)
From: GUEST,Paperlady
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 04:24 PM

There is also a published book from around 1992, a couple of years after Keith Marsden died. It's called Picking Sooty Blackberries and contains all the lyrics to Keith's songs and some interesting background as well.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Idlers and Skivers (Keith Marsden)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Mar 10 - 08:00 PM

Obviously it was NOT clear in my post that 'Picking Sooty Blackberries' was the book of Keith's songs !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Idlers and Skivers (Keith Marsden)
From: stallion
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 04:43 AM

If you read this thread again John, glad C didn't call it a day have a nice one in the US
Pete


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Idlers and Skivers (Keith Marsden)
From: stallion
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 05:56 PM

Blow me down, I am trying to get people to listen to this song it is sp sooooooo relevant almost prophetic until one realises that labour (not the party, the people who work) and capital are in a state of permanent warfare and all the gains and leverage labour makes are eventually clawed back by capital and then give the wage slaves a real spanking so every so often the song is highly relevant.
Ho what surprised me was I was the last person to post on this thread!


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