Subject: Joe Magerac From: artbrooks Date: 25 Jun 01 - 10:43 PM Old Pittsburgh song about the steel worker's Paul Bunyon...anybody have the words or can point me in the right direction? Can't find a reference in DT or the Forum. |
Subject: ADD: Joe Magerac From: raredance Date: 25 Jun 01 - 11:42 PM JOE MAGARAC
I was born in a mountain of red iron ore This version was recorded by the Phoenix Singers, a trio that derived from the Belafonte Singers. rich r |
Subject: ADD: Joe Magerac From: raredance Date: 25 Jun 01 - 11:54 PM Here's an alternate version. Text and tune by Jacob A Evanson, 1946. Printed in "Pennsylvania Songs and Legends" by George Korson (1949, Univ Pennsylvania Press) JOE MAGARAC
I'll tell you about a steel man,
rich r Click to play |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac From: Mark Clark Date: 27 Mar 03 - 11:15 AM I always thought Joe Magarac was a great hero who somehow never got the publicity afforded John Henry, Paul Bunyan, Pecos Bill and Old Stormalong. Does anyone have a melody for either version of this song? - Mark |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac From: MMario Date: 27 Mar 03 - 11:23 AM I'd love to see a tune to either of these - I have found memories of this story being on both Captain Kangaroo and (I think) Captain Bob's TV shows. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Mar 03 - 02:03 PM OK, MMario. You'll find a tune link in the Evanson lyrics. I don't think you can call this one traditional, because Evanson was the author of the chapter on "Folk Songs of an Industrial City" in the 1949 book Pennsylvania Songs and Legends, edited by George Korson. At the time, Evanson was Special Supervisor of Vocal Music in the Pittsburgh Public Schools. Still, it's a pretty good song. Here's are Evanson's notes about Magarac: Joe MagaracI wonder if we can get a tune for the other song. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac From: MMario Date: 27 Mar 03 - 02:08 PM Thanks Joe. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: raredance Date: 31 Mar 03 - 09:55 PM Well it's on the lp sitting about 20 feet from me. If only I had a means to convert it to a computer file. I've sung it myself a few times in the past for Cub Scouts or something like that. Also there is another "Joe Magarac" on the New Chrity Minstrels "Land of Giants". That one is credited to Randy Sparks et al. rich r |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,cwid@snet.net Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:41 AM I have a 1950's print-picture in original frame of Joe Magerac, about 21" x 25". Bending that big band of red-hot steel. Muscles bounding. I was from Pittsburgh. Hate to put it on e-bay. Am in Avon, CT now. Suggestions? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: artbrooks Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:49 AM Get it scanned and send me a copy? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 02 Aug 05 - 11:42 AM So the accent is on the middle syllable of Magerac, right? In the 1970's or 80's my brother had occasion to repair some equipment inside a Pittsburgh steel mill. He had thought that the production line would all be automated, but he told us the actual scene was incredible. The furnace was open and glowing hot, and great big men were standing on a railed platform above it, ripping open bags of additives and heaving them in. Joe Mageracs, all of them. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: Peace Date: 02 Aug 05 - 07:18 PM Painting of him here. Statue here. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,janet.samuels@gmail.com Date: 05 Dec 05 - 05:40 PM hi - you posted in august thatyou had an old joe magarac poster-well, if you still have it and are interested, could you send me the picture of it? thought my sister might get a kick out of it for xmas-we are also from pgh-thanks. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: Celtaddict Date: 06 Dec 05 - 05:45 PM The album notes on that New Christy Minstrels version indicates that "Magerac" (or Magarac, but I seem to recall it being an "e" on the label) is a Slavic word for "jackass." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,Srdjan Date: 29 Dec 05 - 08:33 PM Hi, all Magarac is not Hungarian, Slovak, or Slavic. Magarac is Croatian for donkey. Since Pittsburgh in general, and steel plants and mines in particular, employed thousands of Croatians in the golden age of steel mills, there is little doubt where the name comes from. Croatian pronounciation is like this - Muggeruts, with the stress on the first syllable. Regards, Srdjan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: MMario Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:18 AM Hi Srdjan! Just an FYI - Croatian in the US is classed as one of the 'Slavic' languages; also for many 'jackass' and 'donkey' are nearly synonyms. Donkey is often used as a euphimism for Jackass |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST Date: 24 May 07 - 10:09 PM jnjk |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: clueless don Date: 25 May 07 - 08:20 AM My wife is from the Pittsburgh area (Plum Borough), and she pronounces it MAG-er-ack, with the emphasis on the first syllable. Don |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: mack/misophist Date: 25 May 07 - 11:08 AM It might be worth noting that they are thought to have used the word for jackass because they work so hard. There was a time when that was a virtue. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: Susan A-R Date: 25 May 07 - 01:54 PM I still have that New Christy Minstrels recording, and remember my teenage brother delighting in the translation of Maggerac, as only boys that age can do. I was always annoyed, even then, that the only female hero they seemed to be able to come up with for that album was the Stature of Liberty. Ah well. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,Nancy Date: 18 Jun 07 - 11:44 PM Just a note about Peace's link to a painting. It's actually a photo of a mosiac that was originally commissioned by Andrew Carnegie's Steel organization, and hung in the pool area of his first free library in Braddock PA. When the pool was closed, it was relocated to a medical office building in downtown Braddock. When THAT closed, it was installed on the wall of Benjamin Fairless Middle School just over the town line in North Braddock, and it's still there. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: Celtaddict Date: 19 Jun 07 - 12:10 AM I can remember the tune but only some of the words of the New Christy Minstrels/Randy Sparks version. To the big steel mill big Joe went down big Joe (pause two three) Magerac He said all you steelmen gather round Big Joe (. . .) Magerac He said they're gonna build a railroad to Frisco and back From Maine down to Mexico And who's gonna make the steel for that track but Joe (. . .) Magerac. . . |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,simone Date: 05 Mar 09 - 07:28 PM I love Joe Magarac and i hope that he could insperate some people like many other tall tales did. I love you call me |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joe Magerac / Joe Magarac From: GUEST,chessthefacts Date: 25 Jun 09 - 03:13 AM I remember this from an album by Ernie Sheldon and the Villagers called Big Men Bold and Bad from the early sixties. The lyrics matched those from raredance. A great tune as well. In the song there is the heavy accent on the last syllable of the name with a secondary emphasis on the first. Mag-er-RAK. |
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