Songs about Hull

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 16 - 05:20 AM

Hi Joe - and all the other Mudcatters
The pipex bit has gone from the address courtesy of the Talktalk takeover. It's now [e-mail] otherwise still here!
Looking forward to seeing the celebrations next year. Hopefully it will raise Hull's profile nationally and across the world.
Cheers,
Ian Clark

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 11:50 AM

Oh aye, forgot about auld Reekie. Mrs Musket told me they have one. (she is up there regularly.)

In defence of Hull, their suspension bridge isn't crumbling to bits.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 10:51 AM

Edinburgh also has a Harvey Nicks. And a Primark. And an IKEA. Our dad could beat up Hull's dad in culture any day.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 07:53 AM

Yeah, I should have added that.

I was working in Hull when the 2017 culture was announced. I pointed out that although another contender, Leeds, had the only Harvey Nich' outside London, Hull trumped it with the largest Primark in the world...

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 18 Mar 16 - 04:23 AM

You're only here for the culture

    (A popular song on the terraces of Hull City F C.)

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 17 Mar 16 - 06:38 AM

There is mention here of the death of Chris Rowe ~2001
and fwiw a pipex email address for Ian in a post of 2009

http://www.goole-on-the-web.org.uk/main.php?page=song

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 17 Mar 16 - 05:32 AM

🎼Always shit on the north end of the bridge.

(A popular song on the terraces of Grimbsy Town FC.)

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Mar 16 - 06:52 PM

Up above, Ian Clark posted and offered to furnish lyrics for one of his albums. Somebody emailed me and asked me to put him in contact with Ian to get those lyrics.
Can anyone send me contact information for Ian Clark or Chris Rowe?
Thanks.

-Joe Offer-
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Michael Martin Farrah
Date: 13 Mar 16 - 09:02 AM

'Hull Is Where The Heart Is', by Michael Martin Farrah.
Number ONE on the music site Reverbnation.
All songs written, arranged, produced and performed by
Michael Martin Farrah.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,oggie
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 05:50 PM

Harry Eddom by Bill Meek.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 02:41 PM

we let em get away with it. quote from the play

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 12:47 PM

thanks,freddy

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Les from Hull
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 11:10 AM

Email sent Joe.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 09:59 AM

Worth mentioning the Alan Plater play Land of Green Ginger.  
That is a link to youtube -BBC 1972 with Watersons tracks, Gwen Taylor & John Flanagan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgwRC6ZzQGY

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 07:14 AM

I imagine I'm one of a very few American Mudcatters who has visited Hull. I really enjoyed my visit. If somebody can send me a personal message with an update about John from Hull, I'd appreciate it. I really liked John, and he went out of his way to be nice to me.
I don't think his personal story is a matter for open discussion in the Forum, so please contact me by personal message or email.
Thanks.
-Joe-
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Baz Parkes
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 06:58 AM

Speaking as someone who once shared a lift with Philip Larkin that is sheer genius...wish I'd come across it before...

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 11 Dec 15 - 05:43 AM

A wry/wistful/painful(none of those words are quite right)
look at being in Hull as a student in the days of Philip Larkin -by Tim Woodhouse, Macclesfield

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 10 Dec 15 - 03:41 PM

We are proud and honoured to have Jim in our number, but he perhaps ought to be considered more as a national treasure.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 10 Dec 15 - 08:04 AM

It's not actually about Hull but it's a song written by a native of Hull about his first trip to sea (in 1944) on a ship sailing out of Hull for one of the city's biggest ship operating companies (United Towing). Jim Radford's 'Shores of Normandy' qualifies as a Hull sea song in every meaningful sense.

Jim's other well known song, 'The Merchant Seaman' is also not speciifically about Hull but is a tribute to all the Merchant Seamen who sailed in WWII and especially to Hull's (and the UK's) youngest Merchant Navy Officer killed by enemy action during that conflict. Jack Radford (Jim's elder brother) was just seventeen when he got his Marconi Ticket and sailed as a Second Radio Officer (having gone to sea at 14 as a deckie) and his ship, thew SS Cree, was torpedoed in mid Atlantic just a month after his 18th birthday. The city is naturally referenced in the song's lyrics, along with Liverpool, Cardiff, London and various other ports (Jim occasionally varies the lyrics depending on where he is singing).

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Oct 15 - 06:20 PM

It doesn't really matter what either of us think. Time will tell. 'Three day Millionnaire' has certainly taken off. We sing it. I don't personally know anyone other than Cockersdale members who sing 'Hessle Road' and I was born and brought up on Hessle Road. Geoff Lawes's ''My Sky Sailor' seems to have taken on a life of its own and several of Linda Kelly's songs have been well covered and not only by us.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 27 Oct 15 - 09:46 PM

Hate to disagree with you Steve but I have probably heard a fair number of the dross presented in the last ten years. I would not have made the comment otherwise.

I only mentioned one song by name and included by definition most of Mike's songs. Pedantry rules!

I stick by my guns.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 27 Oct 15 - 11:34 AM

Malcolm,
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion, I doubt if you have heard many of those written in the last ten years, and they certainly are not dross in my opinion. They easily match the 2 songs you mention.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Iain
Date: 27 Oct 15 - 08:57 AM

please forget my last post. Brain has gone on hold for a while

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Iain
Date: 27 Oct 15 - 04:15 AM

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songs about hull many years back and one day I will make blue clicky things work for me.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 26 Oct 15 - 10:36 PM

Without doubt to my mind the best songs that could be associated with Hull are by Mike.
Also outstanding is Keith Marsden's "Hessle Road".
I went to school at Villa Place, T B Holmes and would have gone on to Bean Street, if I had not passed the 11+, and Mike and Keith's stuff captures the area as it was in the immediate post war days when "we didn't have much money but by god we enjoyed life".

Most of the rest are dross - in my opinion.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 26 Oct 15 - 12:33 PM

Hi Iain,
'Farewell to Lincoln Castle' is indeed a great song and it will be on our next CD which is all songs about the Humber waterways. Tom Gaynard is currently learning it. Great tune!

Hi Georgina,
Yes, fond memories of 'Jim the Fish'. Remember the Bank Holiday booksale at the bandstand when Jim was buying books by the yard and chucking em in the back of his fish lorry?

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Oct 15 - 09:30 AM

We've had a thread about Hull songs before. I posted this to it:

http://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=1762419

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 26 Oct 15 - 07:03 AM

Mike Waterson also wrote "Cold Coasts of Iceland" about the life of Jim Parkinson (longterm Whitby Festival goers may remember him as "Fish Jim") and the decline of Hull's deep sea fishing. His song "Three Ships" about the loss of the Kingston Peridot, Ross Cleveland and St Romanus in the 1968 Hull Trawler Disaster is a masterpiece.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Iain
Date: 26 Oct 15 - 04:10 AM

http://www.discogs.com/Broadside-The-Rational-Anthem-By-Humbers-Brown-Water-The-Songs-Of-John-Conolly-And-Bill-Meek/release/5113

There are a couple of songs on this album indirectly about Hull, e.g. farewell to the lincoln castle

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 25 Oct 15 - 02:51 PM

Hi Ian,
Good to hear you're still with us.
There must have been over 50 songs written about Hull in the last 10 years or so.

Spare Hands have 2 CDs out and a third on the way. Linda Kelly, Brian Nelson, Paul and Liz Davenport, Geoff Laws, Beggar's Bridge, Barry Cundill, all great writers, and plenty of others.

I'll be giving a presentation on Hull traditional songs at Wilberforce House on the 21st Nov.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Ian Clark
Date: 25 Oct 15 - 01:51 PM

Great to see the search for songs about Hull. Our contributions on Songs for Humberside in 1968 were an attempt to start to set out what an interesting place Hull is. We were struck by how many pop and standard songs mentioned places in America, Europe and basically everywhere else. As if just because Hull is a city in England it's not mysterious enough to have a song written about it. The collection of songs on that LP speaks for itself but we too put together songs and a poem about the Hull Trawling Disaster on our 3rd LP, Seagulls Ride the Wind. if anyone wants any of the words or chords for any of these please get in touch.
Meanwhile good luck with the search.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 07:11 PM

TA ! using my political knowledge I have suggested two relevant corrections to the posted text.

Gareth

"B*GG*R GOOLE - some of us have to go via Gloucester!

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 04:18 PM

Here they are, Gareth.
thread.cfm?threadid=61142&messages=4

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Gareth
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 06:48 PM

Amos - That seems to be the "Farmers Wife", and the version that this Son of Ap Morganw recalls starts,

There was an Old Farmer in Sussex did dwell,
Rifle Rifle, Fol de le la,
And he'd an Old Wife, who was born out of hell,
With a Fol de rediddle eye ah"

BUT, we still havent, unless I've missed it, the words to,

"The Bridge across the Humber"

Gareth

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 05:36 PM

It was Syphilis that did for Napoleon's army in Russia.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Les from Hull
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 03:35 PM

It's true about the syphilis. Not that Hull was necessarily the syphilis centre of the universe, but that research here proved that syphilis was endemic in Europe before before that nice Mr Colombus was supposed to bring it back from the New World. He was supposed to have exchanged it for the 'flu, measles, smallpox and miscellaneous nasties that us Europeans wished on the poor defenceless inhabitants (but not for long) of his recent discoveries.

In Amos' song that's just euphemistic for Hell. Oh, I just typed a naughty word.

Les - Pretender to the Throne of Hull.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 02:17 PM

just,get,lost,gargoyle-stupif.
havent,you,eber,heard,of,waterson,carthy,then?
were,do,you,think,they,are,from,then,stupig?

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 10:44 PM

I recall one about a farmer's wide that mentions the place a couple of times:

So the devil he heisted her up on his hump,
And off to Hull with her he did jump....

Then later, when she is so intolerable the devil has to bring her back:

They say that the women are worse than the men,
When they go to Hull they get kicked out again....

Is the sort of thing you were looking for?


A

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Bassic
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 09:43 PM

I blame it all on them Vikings9!!

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 09:38 PM

Since John from Hull - raised you folk to international status - I've been trying to recall HULL'S CLAIM TO FAME....it struck today.

You are folk... with the syphilis research!

Charlotte Roberts, of the University of Durham in England, has been exhuming the syphilis-ravaged skeletons at Hull. The skeletons found in the Hull friary indicate that venereal syphilis really was rampant at Hull. Those skeletons have turned the nice, tidy picture of the "New World" origins into a bloody mess.

There are a multitude of songs about the sick, drip, drip, drip of the syphalictic dick....

Perhaps, we should connect them into this Hull thread.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: brid widder
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 07:01 PM

I'm REALLY disappointed... I opened this thread & read about Les's session at the Kingston & the monthly session at Nellies before I saw the dates of those entries... both sessions have sadly been lost! Nellies, it seems no longer welcomes us and the first sunday session is now at the Sun, the Kingston one totally (& in my opinion cruelly) changed... oh for those happy times!

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: old git
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 03:48 PM

sorry just seen the date of your original message!!!!!

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: old git
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 03:46 PM

les ,as far as I know the sea fever festival has been put back to its original place in the last weekend of August
hope so as the roaring forties are booked and i wouldn't want to miss them!

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 09:19 PM

Walton-Street-Fair,is,about,Hull-Fair.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 03:33 AM

Although not about Hull. Mrs Brown You've Got a Lovely Daughter (a hit for Herman's Hermits) was written by Trevor Peacock (a Hull playwright) for a TV play and was originally sung in the play and recorded by Tom Courtney the Hull actor.

Roger

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 12:09 AM

Hull Hull hull hull hu hu hu hu

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Train Guard
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 03:53 PM

In the song 'Dalesman's Litany', the references are as follows (so I was taught). Halifax, in the eighteenth century, had a unique way of executing people - it had its own guillotine, which was perhaps unique in Britain. As far as Hull is concerned, this was a reference to the activities of the press gang, who were very active there and in Newcastle too. It appears that the sailors on the collier brigs were especially prized by them.

Regards,
Train Guard.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:05 AM

PS. The Music session at The Tap £ Spile is on a Tuesday at about 8.30PM.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:02 AM

The Jim Eldon that Les mentions can be seen at the music session at The Tap & Spile, Hull, he is the bloke with a grey suit and a fiddle.
His son goes there as well, i cant remember his name, but he plays a meleodeon.
The Rising of Grafton Street-The Beautiful South is about Hull
Pretenders to The Throne -The Beautiful South is also about Hull
Some Old Salty has recently been recorded by Chumber Wumber.

Subject: RE: Songs about Hull
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Oct 02 - 11:32 PM

Never too much about Hull - there must be one song more.