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Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s

GUEST,Rory Potter 15 Sep 15 - 03:57 AM
GUEST,tony Hillyard 14 Sep 15 - 09:08 PM
GUEST 26 Mar 15 - 07:25 PM
GUEST,Chris Evans 19 Aug 14 - 10:03 AM
GUEST,Mike Aston 26 Feb 14 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,Barry 30 Jan 14 - 04:34 PM
Sue Allan 29 Oct 13 - 05:47 PM
GUEST,Richard Thomas 14 Oct 13 - 06:27 AM
GUEST 07 Jun 13 - 11:12 AM
GUEST,John Field 21 May 13 - 03:58 PM
GUEST,a 23 Mar 13 - 10:16 PM
GUEST 28 Dec 12 - 10:47 PM
GUEST,Henry Piper 25 Dec 12 - 02:47 PM
John MacKenzie 25 Dec 12 - 09:44 AM
GUEST 25 Dec 12 - 05:19 AM
GUEST,Jack&Margaret King 25 Dec 12 - 04:39 AM
GUEST,DaveS 18 Jun 12 - 11:46 PM
GUEST,60s folkfan 11 Jun 12 - 09:18 PM
John MacKenzie 12 May 12 - 03:42 PM
GUEST,Pat Kirby 12 May 12 - 03:01 PM
Kevin Sheils 19 Apr 12 - 04:53 AM
GUEST 19 Apr 12 - 03:50 AM
Tattie Bogle 18 Apr 12 - 08:50 PM
GUEST 18 Apr 12 - 08:19 PM
GUEST,Dave Baxter 18 Apr 12 - 07:16 PM
GUEST,Roger Moss 22 Mar 12 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,Guest Nick Goates 21 Mar 12 - 12:35 PM
GUEST,Roger Fleming 10 Feb 12 - 10:49 AM
John MacKenzie 08 Feb 12 - 10:00 AM
GUEST,Jack King 08 Feb 12 - 09:33 AM
Kevin Sheils 07 Feb 12 - 07:31 AM
balladeer 06 Feb 12 - 10:50 PM
GUEST,Beachcomber 06 Feb 12 - 03:57 PM
Judy Dyble 06 Feb 12 - 04:06 AM
Kevin Sheils 06 Feb 12 - 03:25 AM
balladeer 05 Feb 12 - 11:02 PM
GUEST,Gwen Nelson 05 Feb 12 - 06:14 PM
John MacKenzie 04 Feb 12 - 02:04 PM
GUEST,Rolling Rob Lipson 04 Feb 12 - 01:00 PM
GUEST,Roger Fleming. 06 Jan 12 - 03:25 PM
Max Johnson 06 Jan 12 - 08:42 AM
GUEST,Roger Fleming 06 Jan 12 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,Julie C-M 30 Nov 11 - 02:07 PM
Tunesmith 29 Nov 11 - 09:23 AM
GUEST,Jack King 29 Nov 11 - 08:14 AM
Kevin Sheils 29 Nov 11 - 04:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Rory Potter
Date: 15 Sep 15 - 03:57 AM

There was a club called The Horseshoe Wharf at Blackfriars in the mid 60's run by Shirley Collins and Tony McCarthy on Saturdays from my recollection.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,tony Hillyard
Date: 14 Sep 15 - 09:08 PM

Does anyone remember the Bromley Folk Club from the 70's? my memory is very blurred now but Jan Henn and Ralph? Henning were regulars. A very sociable club which got me into performing 'solo'. I'm pretty sure it ran on Sunday nights. Any details would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Tony


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 07:25 PM

It was the Duke's Head


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Chris Evans
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 10:03 AM

Just a few days ago, I found an American site called collectors frenzy. There was a poster listed for sale that I had created in 1967,for the club I ran in London at the Greyhound Fulham Palace Road. It was for the two weeks leading up to the Christmas break, the first guest being Derek
Brimstone and the second (Christmas party night) with the Noel Murphy and the Strawbs. Had forgotten the poster had existed and more importantly it reminded me that the club had been named 'The Doghouse'.
Maybe someone out there attended on one of those nights and can share a distant memory. Oh! and a frequent guest was a young John Kirkpatric, who brought along Hammersmith Morris for one night of joyous dance and song.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Mike Aston
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 10:53 AM

Lots of blasts from the past! My patch in particular was the Potters Bar Folk Club mainly at the Robin Hood pub and the St Albans Folk Club at the Peahen. The Folklanders were resident at both and played at many others including the Howff in Edinburgh, Samson & Barlows in Liverpool, Troubadour in London. Have a two-volume scrapbook with lots of images, programmes, MM ads etc. + recordings on tape and even vinyl!   mike@kcited.demon.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Barry
Date: 30 Jan 14 - 04:34 PM

It was the Dukes Head in Addlestone a hall at the back of the pub.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Sue Allan
Date: 29 Oct 13 - 05:47 PM

OMG just stumbled on this old thread and it brought back a heap of memories from my college days at Trent Park in early 1970s. Did floor spots at the Hop Poles in Enfield, King's Head Islington, Springfield in Bounds Green and the Leyton club (remember Dympna and Paul Havel). Also had brilliant nights at Putney Bridge ceilidhs and Dingle's at the Roebuck: first saw Taffy Thomas there with Magic Lantern. Also got to know some of Hammersmith Morris, most of whom seemed to be called John or Dave so had assorted nicknames including Buttercup, Daisy, John K and John the Spy (from Wales I think). I seem to think Buttercup,mentioned above, went on to found Bollin Morris in Cheshire some years later.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Richard Thomas
Date: 14 Oct 13 - 06:27 AM

I was searching for Joe Palmer (of 'The Peelers') to see if I could find an email contact for him and came across this forum. What a wonderful collection of memories. I, with several friends, used to go to the Peelers club at the Kings Store, Widegate Street, London. The original Peelers were the residents then (Joe, Terry, Chris and John). We had a whale of a time there and were inspired to go on to start our own folk club in Bishop's Stortford ('69-'75). The Peelers (Mk2 - Joe, Tom & Jim) were guests several times for us there. After all these years I am still playing and signing (but mostly to myself now!). So, Joe, if you read this - hello and best wishes to you. Richard


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 11:12 AM

Reading about the NW3 group (Dom Bonito) it minds me to say that all members of The Folklanders (60s/70s Robin Hood, Potters Bar / St Albans Folk Clubs) are still steaming up mirrors - that's Ann & Dave Smith, Dave Hall, Ken Littlechild, Barry Beattie and Mike Aston.

folklanders@kcited.demon.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John Field
Date: 21 May 13 - 03:58 PM

I've just seen the references to the late Jim Woodley and I'd like to add some more recollections. I met Jim at the Folk Cellar in Cecil Sharp House circa the autumn of 1963 and together with his mandolin-playing pal, Brian Oliver (Ollie) we decided to form a trio with self on banjo. We came up with the name , the "Country Ramblers". I believe I was the first of several banjo players that Jim and Brian had over the next few years. I recall many rehearsals at Jim's house in Southgate on Sunday afternoons,(I still have some tapes of these...), and we would sometimes go to the Enterprise Folk Club in Chalk Farm to do a floor spot, as well as tackling a fair few bookings on the London Folk Scene in 63/64. Jim was the nicest guy you could wish to meet and in later years, as well as continuing with his music, developed a phenomenal talent for flat figure painting.   I lost touch with him for many years, but fortunately got in contact again and visited him around 2004.   I was very sorry indeed to learn of his passing.   RIP Jim....


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,a
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 10:16 PM

It was at the Duke's Head at the crossroads at the end of the town. John Renbourn was resident in the mid 60s and then the Strawberry Hill Boys, before they were the Strawbs. I saw Jesse Fuller,. Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee, Sandy Denny with Johnny Silvo, Diz Dizley, Noel Murphy, Gordon Giltrap, Tim Hart and Maddy Prior..I remember the landlord was a jazz bass player as well. I went away to university and came back in the early 70s and it was all quiet and we had a singers' club with donations ..I played in the house band with a couple who I'm ashamed to say I can't remember their names..


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 10:47 PM

I used to frequent Ben Schneider's Falafel house 1964-65. Great place! Shlomo Carlebach appeared there in that time.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Henry Piper
Date: 25 Dec 12 - 02:47 PM

Hello, only just read this thread, its amazing thats its been going on for so many years and still throwing up old memories
My first Folk Club experience was the Pheobus Awakes at Catford during the late sixties and onwards.
I was persuaded to go by The late Jacqui Walker as she was at that time, and her then husband,Barry.
At the time I was playing in a Rock Band with Jacquis Brother Rob, and she persuaded us to go along and broaden our musical horizons ! and eventually Rob and I did the occasional floor spot,with me playing some very bad banjo, and later under the influence of the Bushwackers and Bullockies band from Oz, I took up the lagerphone! I beleive I was one of the first "Natives" to take up the Instrument !!! and went on to sit in with the Crayfolk, Pete "Slats" Hicks, John Barker, and I beleive Pete Chopping,Whenever They played at the Club
I also remenber Barry and Jacqui's Mate Dave Wiltshire the singing undertaker, and an excellent Ragtime guitarist Bob Axford I wonder what happened to those two ??
Barry and Jacqui were on very good terms with Dave and Toni Arthour, who lived nearby, ( I seem to remember Toni was working at Lewisham Hospital at the time ) and remember going to somew really wonderful parties in a house or flat in Brandram Rd, -.-.not sure wether that was The Arthours or Jacquis though, the memory is not what it was. !!
they were wonderful times, and I have been involved in Folk Activities ever since,   Morris Dancing, Playing Melodeon in several Country Dance bands, and now latterly Running the Sidmouth Traditional Mummers as I have for some years Lived In Ottery St Mary Devon, In fact it was Jacqui and Barry persuading me to visit the Sidmouth Folk Festival in 1968, that ultimately led me to move to Devon.
its been a wonderful experience hearing the anecdotes and reminiscences from so many people many of whom I actually Knew, I hope they will keep coming!!.

Cheers, Henry Piper, Known in the 60's as "Pip"!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Dec 12 - 09:44 AM

Sorry, that guest was me. Cookie tossed unobserved.

John


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Dec 12 - 05:19 AM

Thanks Jack and Margaret, and the same to both of you. What is it about Suffolk and old folkies, Don Shepherd is there too? It's almost as bad as the West Country ;)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Jack&Margaret King
Date: 25 Dec 12 - 04:39 AM

Seasons greetings from Suffolk to all old folkies everywhere,a joyous Xmas & aHappy Healthy Peaceful & Prosperous New Year


               Jack&Margaret


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,DaveS
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 11:46 PM

I came across this thread when looking back on my past via the internet. I left school in 1973. We weren't the biggest club but I think we made a contribution that entitles expectation that some of the memories in this thread are a little less affected by the 40 intervening years. Brief Historical Note - I used to act as doorman and treasurer of The Melting Pot Folk Club in Streatham. The resident singers who did the first session were Bob&Ros Allen who were supported by a range of fairly regular floor singers (DaveHarbord, IreneLucas & DaveMarshall). The second session was the main actof the night. We started at The Manor Arms (Mitcham Lane) moving to The Hanover Arms (Kennington) then to The White Lion (Streatham High Road). The club was advertised by the Streatham Young Communist League via local press and flyposters. Many of the acts mentioned in this thread played there and I remember many of them - great days indeed - even for someone as tone deaf as me with a voice like a foghorn!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,60s folkfan
Date: 11 Jun 12 - 09:18 PM

Have just read through some of the more recent contributions and saw Radio Dave's note about the origins of the Phoebus Awakes folk club in Catford. I thought that the Phoebus Awakes was started and run by Dave Cooper (Radio Dave?), Eddie Dunmore, Martin Hazel and Dave and Toni Arthur, with a resident group, The Coven Band? And only later run by Dave Cooper.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 May 12 - 03:42 PM

Remember it well, opposite Price's Candle factory.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Pat Kirby
Date: 12 May 12 - 03:01 PM

Nags Head Folk Club, Battersea - Used to play with an Irish Trio called
"Dave & Mike". Fiddle (Mike Kirby) 12 string & Vocals (Dave Hunt)Piano Accordion (Pat Kirby). A crazy mix of fast jigs and reels. Big Sue used to compere, The Southern Ramblers were regulars. What happy memories!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 04:53 AM

Oops, that was a cookieless me


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 03:50 AM

Tattie

I'd forgotten the "Hospital" club scene, I was regular at Bart's Hospital club around that time, among the regular performers were Home Brew, at least one of whom became Gladstone's Bag.

Also a regular club at Westminster Hopsital.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 18 Apr 12 - 08:50 PM

Sorry that was me without cookie!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Apr 12 - 08:19 PM

I was in London from 1964-1970, but being a diligent medical student, seem to have missed out on a lot of this: however, we did have our own folk club within The London Hospital Students' Union (Whitechapel) and I remember having guest nights with people like John Renbourn and Jacqui McShee (before Pentangle): anyone else remember playing the club? It was one of those rare nights that men were allowed in the Women's Common Room - or if it was a really big audience, it was women being allowed in the Men's Common Room!
Prior to that I'd lived in Suffolk and used to attend the Ipswich Folk Club at "The Suffolk Punch" pub on Norwich Road, while I was still at school.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Dave Baxter
Date: 18 Apr 12 - 07:16 PM

Just found this thread. I worked with Ray Twomey in the Civil Service early 70's. Used to go to Black Bull in Totteridge (Mondays). Saw Noel Murphy & Draught Porridge there with a young Davy Johnson! Also used to go to Benjis off Charing X Road. Would sometimes sing at half time. Also used to go to a folk club off the A406 north of Brent Cross, I think run by a guy called Nigel Wesson(?) who used to sing at Benjis on a Saturday night. Happy days!!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Roger Moss
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 06:04 AM

http://toadhallfolk.wordpress.com/ - a little homage to Toad Hall and those of us who played there.
Enjoy... and do let us have any insight we might lack.

Roger


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Guest Nick Goates
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 12:35 PM

Just spent a pleasant afternoon reminiscing about the folk clubs in the 60's & 70's. I started going initially to the Hop Poles in Enfield on a Monday night where regulars were Murph, Diz Disley, Jeremy Taylor to name but a few. Branched out to Bounds Green and Barnet and saw many great acts. Murph was a particular favourite and when he recorded his live at the Cabbage Patch Album a few years ago we were privileged to be in the audience and spent a long time with him between breaks, in fact we corresponded reguarly after that. I last saw Murph only a few years ago at Ringwood Folk Club in Dorset. Still as good as ever although virtually semi retired at that time. Great to look back on those days and remember what fun evenings they were


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Roger Fleming
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 10:49 AM

The German sounding chap that you are enquiring about would be
Karl Wahnig, also called Jack Wahnig.
Sadly he has passed on now. Karl & I used to duet together at various gigs. He had an interesting life as he was in U-Boats during the war and was captured off the Canadian coast. He wound up as a prisoner-of-war in Regent's Park, but at the end of the war many of the POW's whose homes were in the Eastern part of Germany elected to remain here. He got a job as a GPO engineer and worked for the Post Office until his retirement. In his bedroom he had many photographs of his time in the German Navy and on the deck of U-Boats. He is often credited in books and on various TV documentaries for information and photographs. He preferred to be called Jack and not Karl after the war until the late 60's onwards.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 10:00 AM

Lisa was also one of the regulars at the Half Moon in Putney in them far off days.
They were Gerry Lockran, Royd Rivers,Cliff Aungier, and Lisa, when I first went there. I think that only Royd is still with us. Somewhere I saw a clip of him joining in with Johnny Silvo at a club in the south of England, in 2009
Silvo/Rivers. Found it.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Jack King
Date: 08 Feb 12 - 09:33 AM

Hi Beachcomber

I think you mean Lisa Turner a brilliant banjo player guitarist & song writer Margaret & I booked her many times for the Cellar and she always gave us a couple of brilliant sets. Sadly like so many of the old scene now gone from us

                            Jack


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 07:31 AM

PM or email via the club website when/if you do Joanne


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: balladeer
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 10:50 PM

Thanks for the invitation, Kevin.

Joanne


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Beachcomber
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 03:57 PM

I have just been browsing through this thread again and Jack King and Roger Fleming brought back some memories to me of evenings spent in CSH in the mid sixties. I remember one evening when Peter Kennedy , in the absence of some guest for whom he apologised, took up a guitar and sang an Irish Comic song "Mick Maguire".
I remember how he played a little intro , finger style before singing. Another evening we were treated to a guitar workshop by Jimmie McGregor and a young lady (I think Liz Turner) also accompanied him in some songsafter the lesson. Do you guys remember either of those events ?
I also remember a group called , I think, "The Coachmen" or "The Highwaymen" , a trio all with guitars which included a black bearded German sounding chap . I wonder if he was the Karl that you speak of Roger ??
I would say that it was c.1963/4.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Judy Dyble
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 04:06 AM

I think the Cooks Ferry Inn Jazz and Blues club, had a folk night for a while, I'm sure I remember playing there with my autoharp. It's possible that friends of mine were running it, but it must have been a short-lived thing.. Very desolate windswept area next to the River Lea and a long walk to and from the bus stop..


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 03:25 AM

Well at the Walthamstow Folk Club in London, Joanne, we always find time for floor spots as well as 2 x 45 minutes from the Guest. We aim to be relevant to today's needs but still true to the tradition that the clubs were places where singers developed their craft.

Drop in if you get over, I am an old Enterprise club resident and we still have one very regular attender from that club and a few occasional ones.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: balladeer
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 11:02 PM

Ah ... the Enterprise. That was my local club back in the day. ... A thousand years later (summer 2011) I tried to get back to Blighty, but doc wouldn't let me fly. Hope to try again soon, but this time I want to connect with some of you in advance. I'll be looking up old friends, but would appreciate new connections as well. ... Is there any such thing as floor singers anymore?

Joanne Crabtree (aka Jo-Anne Hindley-Smith)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Gwen Nelson
Date: 05 Feb 12 - 06:14 PM

Would anyone remember an Irish group called "The Tinkers"? Their base was at the Three Horseshoes in Hampstead. The members of the group were Gerry Fox, Micket Flynn, Eddie McGinnetty and Davy Burke. I used to go out with Davy in the late 60s and would very much like copies of photos anyone might have of them or to share reminiscences.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 02:04 PM

DO you have a brother called Dave, Rob?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Rolling Rob Lipson
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:00 PM

Hi Dick Wilkinson, you've survived - if you get this send me a note robinlipson@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Roger Fleming.
Date: 06 Jan 12 - 03:25 PM

I must point out that Jim's group were often booked as the guests in their own right at the Enterprise (The Hampstead Folk Song Club.)
When the residents, the NW3, took their holidays I would fill in on occasions to keep the club running in their absence, so I was aware that Jim, Ollie and Doug, living close by, would kindly help out at short notice if the booked guests was unable to make it!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Max Johnson
Date: 06 Jan 12 - 08:42 AM

I've just read this, and am so sorry to hear that Jim has passed on.

I also used to paint figurines and competed and judged internationally at many of the European venues where Jim also competed and demonstrated. He was indeed World renowned and for several years was generally recognised as being the best there was. He was largely responsible for the rise in popularity and awareness of German 'flat figures', and I (and others) feel that he never received the recognition that he deserved for this, although he certainly did as an artist, having at some time won just about every competition medal going.

I also used to drink with Jim, Dougie and Ollie in the Engineer. Eric Leggoe, who sang with Threadbare Consort, lived a few doors away and often played string bass with Rural Delivery. I remember a great night when Kenny Baker turned up and jammed with them when Bill Monroe was touring.

RIP, mate.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Roger Fleming
Date: 06 Jan 12 - 06:36 AM

For Julie C-M
Sorry to here that Jim is no longer with us.
I used to organise the instrumental workshops at Cecil Sharp House on Tuesday evenings. Jim & Co would drop in and play at the Songswap that I ran after the classes had finished, then we'd all go down to the Engineer pub for jam sessions. Peter Knight of Steel Eye would also join in on fiddle.
As had been said, Paul Simon was booked at the Enterprise at Chalk Farm a few times and Jim with Doug & Ollie, would drop in to hear him and also give a few renditions "from the Floor" as we called it!
I used to go to Jim's home, along with Roger Nicholson (who played guitar and the mountain dulcimer, and he's also sadly passed on), where the three of us would paint model soldiers and Jim would demonstrate some of his battle lay-outs.
I also remember his "big guitar" with heavy Monel strings on it.
I played on very light folk strings myself and I could hardly press Jim's strings down they were so strong.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Julie C-M
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 02:07 PM

Hi Kevin, Jack and Margaret

Thank you so much for your postings and lovely reminiscences of my uncle Jim. I shall forward a link to my mum (Jim's sister) as I know she will also be very interested to hear more about his younger life. We have a copy of a record in which the Lea Valley Travellers appear with Jim on the lead vocal. It is so great to have this memento!

Uncle Jim always loved folk/ bluegrass music, only giving up playing in bands because of his love of (and incredible talent) flat-figure painting. He won so many awards for this hobby and was world-renowned in the field. Here's a link to some of his work: http://letchworthsmc.yolasite.com/2---jim-woodley.php

I remember, as a small girl, sitting in Uncle Jim's room watching him play his guitar and asking why the strings were dangling down around the tuning pegs; his response was 'they're like finger nails, they keep growing if you don't cut them!'.

It's only in the last few years that I've started taking an interest in folk music myself, largely due to attending WOMAD and Moseley Folk festivals. I was very fortunate to bump into Martin Carthy on the train from Scarborough to York a couple of years ago and had a quick chat. I also like Davey Graham, but sadly he passed away before I had any chance of catching him live.

We miss Jim so much, but he had a fantastic send-off, accompanied by Alison Krauss's version of "Down to the River to Pray' and Soggy Bottom Boys' "Man of Constant Sorrow" - from the soundtrack of "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (which we both loved). Ollie and Georgie were both there to celebrate his life too!

Please do send any more memories if you wish!

Best wishes to you all. Julie


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Tunesmith
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 09:23 AM

I posted the following on a separate thread. It probably should have been posted here.

In June 1966, I made the first of many visits to London to check out the folk music scene, and subsequent to that initial trip I wrote an article about the visit which was published in a local rag "The Formby Times" in Merseyside.
I just came across the article and I've scanned it.
To be honest I don't think its particularly interesting and I didn't like the way the local editor rewrote the ending so that it had definite local connections.
BTW, there is a local Formby singer called Timon mentioned towards the end of the article. Later he expanded his name and became Timon Dogg (just in case that name rings a bell!)
If anyone would like a copy of the scanned article drop me a line at

phranzjosef@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Jack King
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 08:14 AM

Hi Julie
       Margaret & I certainly remember Jim ( Woody ) with great affection,I first met him in a John Pearse guitar class which would have probably been in 1960 or 61 and later when we ran the Cellar he and Ollie were regular visitors . We remember him as always immaculately dressed ,blazer grey flannels collar and tie and never without his pork pie hat stood out amongst the load of scruffs that seemed to be the followers of Folk Music in those far off days.I remember him with Ollie and I think Ollie's girl friend Georgie performing at the Cellar.I particularly remember three songs that he used to do regularly the first "Gosport Nancy " which I seem to remember caught the ear of Cyril Tawney then there was the one to the tune of "Abdul abulbul ameer" about a scots lad wno tamed a wild haggis ,Jim always said he got the idea from a poem he read in the Beano and lastly a Music Hall ditty "You dont wnt to keep on showing it Mary" about a girl with a big red nose.I dont remember him jamming with Paul Simon but it was certainly a possibility Paul often dropped into the cellar if he hadn't got a gig.Sad to think of another old "Folker" gone theres not many of us left

               Jack& Margaret King


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 04:18 AM

I was a regular at the Engineer sessions after the Guitar classes at CSH and knew Jim, Doug and Ollie well, and probably yourself Julie. I don't have evidence of Jim jamming with Paul but Paul Simon was a guest on one or two occasions at the close by Enterprise Chalk Farm where all of us would have been regular as well so it's not impossible.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,JulieCM
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 05:11 PM

Just in case my first posting(above) doesn't make sense, I was replying to posts made on 20 Feb 2010! Hope to hear from someone! Julie


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,JulieC-M
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 05:03 PM

Hi

I found your post after Googling 'Jim Woodley', to see if I could find some documentary evidence to confirm that he had jammed a little with Paul Simon at a gig at either the Roundhouse or Cecil Sharp House. Jim was my uncle and sadly he passed away in April 2010 after a long illness. It is quite ironic that your original postings were at about this time. I hope I haven't missed the boat and that someone will be able to reply to me.

Jim's sister Heather (my mum) was his next of kin and is now custodian of that 'big guitar'.   I remember her taking me and my brother to see his band 'Rural Delivery' play at the Engineer in Camden when I was a kid. I was so excited and thought my uncle must be very famous! I remember Doug McHattie and Ollie - who is still in touch with my mum.

I still haven't found any documentary evidence of Jim jamming with Paul Simon (I guess this must have been in the '60s') but if anyone has, or knows where I could find it, please do let me know! Jim's band at the time was probably the Lea Valley Travellers. I'd also love to hear any memories you have of him. I look forward to hearing from you. Julie


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Marco Paolo McNeill
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 04:07 PM

From Paul McNeill, there's his web home page on
http://www.paulmcneill.ch

Photographs, interview, music,...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John Bailey
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:23 PM

Found this thread after MSG reunion concert in Manchester last weekend.
I moved down to Bishops Stortford in 1969 for a couple of years or so. Can't remember clubs I went to / sang at but do remember that afterwards would often end up at Mooneys Bar in The Strand for the night, along with many other musicians. Entry required an instrument in hand. I sadly can't remember who went there, but there were many 'names' and lots of great music.
I did hang about 'The Angel' at Hadham were Fairport were living, my 'claim to fame' being playing spoons with them on occasions and recall those who weren't too tired after returning from a Manchester University gig piling in to my Land Rover to go to the premiere of Alices Restaurant at The Odeon, Leicester Square. Good times.
Also good to see mention of Packy Byrne on here - a lovely man and a great performer. Often played in Manchester in the 60s.
Hope this hasn't gone too far off thread - wish my memory allowed me to contribute more relevant material.


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