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Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)

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MA SHEELA
THE FIRST THING
TOPMAN AND AFTERGUARD


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Lyr Req: The Soldier's Prayer / Soldier and Sailor (6)
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Subject: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: MMario
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 02:25 PM

THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
(traditional)

A sol-dier and a sail-or were a-walk-ing one day
They walked til they came to an old hol-low tree
said_the sol-dier to_the sail-or Let this our pulpit be
And what-ev-er we pray for, we'll hope soon to see

Now the first thing we'll pray for wi-ll be some good beer
Said the sailor to the soldier I wish it was here
For where we get one pint I hope we'll get ten
and nev-er want for liq-our cried_the sold-ier a-men

Now the next thing we'll pray for wi-ll be some good beef
Said the sailor to the soldier: We'll eat with re-lief
For where we get one pound I hope we'll get ten
and nev-er go _ hun-gry, cried_the sol-dier: a-men

Now the next thing we'll pray for will be our grac-ious Queen
And may she live as happy and long may she reign
And where she get one man, I hope she_will have ten
May she never want for boun-ty, cried_the sold-dier: a-men

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: GUEST,David
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 02:35 PM

There is an extremely scurrilous version of this, much sung in Irish Republican circles years ago where the references to Her Gracious Majesty are less than kind.David.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: MMario
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 02:41 PM

I'm sure there are...the notes on this indicate it goes back (minimum) to 1904 - so I would have to assume the "Her Majesty" is Victoria. However, when I sing it, the reference to Her Majesty will be Elizabeth I, as I intend to sing it during the summer of 1585.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 04:54 PM

Mike Seeger sings yet another version, in which

"We'll pray for the young boys that stay at home and plow
And gain their maintainance by the sweat of their brow.
Good luck and good fortune them always attend,
And money aplenty. Said the soldier, Amen!

"We'll pray for the young girls that stay at home and spin,
Nor go to night parties, as all of us has been.
Good luck and good fortune them always attend,
And sweethearts to court them! Said the soldier, Amen!

We'll pray for the old miser, with his hands full of gold.
He neither lends it nor spends it nor gives to the poor.
Bad luck and bad fortune him always attend,
And the Devil to fetch him! Said the soldier, Amen!

Mike Seeger, Southern Banjo Sounds DRO


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: Snuffy
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:13 PM

Two versions in the DT:

THE FIRST THING

TOPMAN AND AFTERGUARD


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Subject: ADD: Soldier's Litany
From: Joe_F
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:17 PM

See also "Topman and Afterguard" in DigiTrad.

Here's another version -- can't remember where I learned it:

THE SOLDIER'S LITANY

A soldier and a sailor went walking one day.
Said the soldier to the sailor, "I've a notion to pray,
And if we say one prayer, then let us say ten.
Let's have a bloody litany!" Said the sailor, "Amen!"

"Well then, first of all, let us pray for some beer."
"Amen!" said the sailor, "May 't bring us good cheer!"
"And if we have one cask, then may we have ten!
Let's have a bloody brewery." Said the sailor, "Amen!"

"Then second of all, let us pray for a wench."
"Amen!" said the sailor, "and may she be French!"
"And if we have one wench, then may we have ten!
Let's have a bloody harem." Said the sailor, "Amen!"

"And then, next of all, let us pray for a boy."
"Amen!" said the sailor, "May he bring us great joy!"
"And if we have one boy, then may we have ten!
Let's have a bloody orphanage." Said the sailor, "Amen!"

"Well, then, next of all, let us pray for our queen,
And a jolly great mother to us she has been.
And if she have one brat, then may she have ten!
May she have a bloody army!" Said the sailor, "Amen!"

"And then, last of all, let us pray for our king,
And a bloody black bastard to us he has been.
And if he catch one dose, then may he catch ten!
May he have a bloody hospital!" Said the sailor, "Amen!"

-- I gather that, in the British Navy, there is no such thing as sedition so long as you sing it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:25 PM

See also, in the Forum:  Parson & the Clerk - Australian


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: MMario
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 08:51 AM

so - there's a reason it sounded familiar!


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Subject: ADD: Subaltern's Lament
From: CET
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 06:34 PM

This song is traditional in the Canadian Army. I learned it, long before I ever knew it was a very old folk song, as the Subaltern's Lament:

The first thing we asked for, we asked for some beer
Wonderful, glorious, beautiful beer
If we can have one beer, why can't we have ten
Why can't we have a brewery, why can't we have a brewery,
why can't we have a brewery
Is the subaltern's lament

The next thing we asked for, we asked for some booze
Wonderful, glorious, beautiful booze
If we can have one drink, why can't we have ten
Why can't we have a distillery, why can't we have a distillery, why can't we have a distillery,
Is the subaltern's lament

The next thing we asked for, we asked for some girls
Wonderful, glorious, beautiful girls
If we can have one girl, why can't we have ten?
Why can't we have a whorehouse, why can't we have a whorehouse, why can't we have a whorehouse?
Is the subaltern's lament.

A friend of mine once sang the following verse:

The next thing we asked for, we asked for some boys
Wonderful, glorious, beautiful boys
If we can have one boy, why can't we have ten?
Why can't we dock in Frisco, why can't we dock in Frisco, why can't we dock in Frisco?
Is the subaltern's lament.


I learned quite a few other songs, which I now realize were genuine folksongs, but too obscene to share on the Mudcat.
I love Joe F's version. I'm definitely going to learn it.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: MMario
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 09:50 PM

well - it was a posting of a near repeat - but look at all the nice varients it scared out of the woodwork!


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Subject: ADD Version: The Topman and the Afterguard
From: Margo
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 12:53 AM

I haven't seen here the version that Lou Killen does of the Topman and the Afterguard. I shall try from memory:

The Topman and the Afterguard

Oh a topman and an afterguard went a walking out one day
Says the topman to the afterguard I mean for to pray
for the rights of all sailors and the wrongs of all men
and whatever I do pray for you must answer "amen".

First I'll pray for the bosun with his little stick
Who calls out "all hands" and then gives us a lick
He strikes many a good fellow and kicks him a-main
May the devil double triple damn him; says the afterguard, "Amen"

Next I'll pray for the purser who gives us to eat
Old burgoo, rank butter and musty horse meat
With his weavily old biscuits, while he gets the gain,
May the devil double triple damn him, says the Afterguard, "Amen"

Then I'll pray for them navy officers who hold back our due,
We are owed three years wages and prize money too,
Well it's no pay for you Jack try next voyage again,
May the Devil double triple damn them, says the afterguard "Amen"

And the last thing that I'll pray for is a jug of good beer,
For the Lord made the liquor our spirits to cheer,
And where we had one pot I wish we had ten,
And never never want for grog boys, says the afterguard "Amen"

I sure do like the way Lou Killen sings this, too.

Margo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 09:31 AM

A few further links (two are to sets mentioned by Snuffy earlier on):

Ma Sheela  A parody by Robert Kotta.

Topman and Afterguard  A rather different text (unattributed) from the one Margo quotes.

Tune in ABC  for the two above, posted by Snuffy.

The first thing  Canadian Airforce version, some parts in common with Edmund's Army one.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
From: MMario
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 09:35 AM

Malcolm - redundant as this is after the thread - THANKS!
Messages from multiple threads combined. Messages below are from a new thread.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Origins: soldier and a sailor (soldiers prayer)
From: Mick O'Farrell
Date: 15 Jan 04 - 03:05 PM

Hi,
Does any body know of a good recorded version of 'A Soldier and a Sailor', also somtimes called 'The Soldier's Prayer'. My dad used to sing the following lyrics : _

A soldier and a sailor went walking one day,
Said the soldier to the sailor,
Shall we kneel down and pray,
And if we say one prayer,
Then let's make it ten,
We'll have a bloody sermon, said the sailor, Amen.

And if would should pray, let us pray for some beer,
Oh lord, may we have some
To bring us good cheer,
And if we have one pint,
Then let's make it ten,
Let's 'ave a bloody brewery, said the sailor, Amen.

I've heard Hamish Imlach's version, but the melody he uses definatly varies somewhat, from the version I know.


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Subject: RE: Origins: soldier and a sailor (soldiers prayer)
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 15 Jan 04 - 03:50 PM

The usual tune I've heard is one of the many versions of Villikens and his Dinah. However, the whole thing may have grown out of one that starts off:
    The old clerk of this parish I know him right well,
    He often do toll the eight o'clock bell,
    He went to the ale house to take a small sup
    And forgot the old church for to lock-a-lock lock...

    A mare and a foal ran in at great speed,
    The mare from the bible began for to read,
    "Oh stay," said the foal, "before you begin,
    Whatever you pray for I'll answer amen...

    "Let us pray for the millers that grind us our corn,
    For they are the greatest rogues that ever were born,
    For every bushel they'll take two for toll,
    May the devil take the millers," "Amen" said the foal...

    etc.
Banjo


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Subject: RE: Origins: soldier and a sailor (soldiers prayer)
From: LadyJean
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 01:18 AM

I've encountered a version involving two sailors. I'll try to find it.


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Subject: RE: Origins: soldier and a sailor (soldiers prayer)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 02:35 AM

This Lieder page has a version - with musical setting by Benjamin Britten!!

The Soldier and the Sailor

As the soldier and the sailor
Was a-walking one day,
Said the soldier to the sailor:
"I've a mind for to pray".
"Pray on then", said the sailor,
"Pray on once again,
And whatever you do pray for,
I will answer "Amen'".

"Now the first thing I'll pray for,
I'll pray for the Queen,
That she have peace and plenty
All the days of her reign,
And where she got one man
I wish she had ten;
And never want for an army".
Said the sailor, "Amen".

"Now the next thing I'll pray for,
I'll pray for the Queen,
That she have peace and plenty
All the days of her reign,
And where she got one ship
I wish she had ten;
And never want for a navy".
Said the sailor, "Amen".

"Now the next thing I'll pray for,
Is a pot of good beer,
For good liquor were sent us
Our spirits to cheer,
And where we got one pot,
I wish we had ten,
And never want for liquor".
Said the sailor, "Amen".

I've had my eye on a two-CD set called Britten: The Folksong Arrangements. I see that the song is also on Mike Seeger's Southern Banjo Sounds. Alan Lomax recorded Harry Cox singing it - it's on the What Will Become of England? CD from the Lomax "Portraits' series.
Here's the entry from the Traditional Ballad Index:

Soldier and the Sailor, The

DESCRIPTION: The sailor "has a good mind to pray For the rights of all people and the wrongs of all men." He accuses the lawyers of "tak[ing] your hard earnings and giv[ing] you hard laws"; the ministers for condemning you to hell, and the farmers for high prices
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1902 (Petrie)
KEYWORDS: political curse
FOUND IN: Britain(England(South,Lond),Scotland(Aber)) Canada(Mar) Ireland
REFERENCES (2 citations):
Doerflinger, pp. 277-278, "The Soldier and the Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)
Kennedy 239, "The Soldier and the Sailor" (1 text, 1 tune)

Roud #350
RECORDINGS:
Archie Lennox, "The Soldier and the Sailor" (on FSB8)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "'Pleasant and Delightful" (meter)
cf. "Ye Gentlemen of England (I)" [Laws K2] (theme)
Notes: This appears to exist in two forms -- one, exemplified by Doerflinger, condemning various wrongs; the other, found in Kennedy, just calling for a good time (praying for beer and the like). There are, however, enough similarities that I would consider them still one song. - RBW
File: Doe277

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Subject: ADD Version: Soldier and the Sailor
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 03:53 AM

MMario posted the version from Kennedy in the first message. Here's the version from Doerflinger's Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman.
-Joe Offer-

The Soldier and the Sailor

The soldier and the sailor went a-walking one day,
Said the sailor to the soldier, "I've a good mind to pray
For the rights of all people and the wrongs of all men,
May the Devil double-double-triple-damn them!"
Said the soldier, "Amen."

"Now here's to those lawyers, they'll plead for your cause,
They'll take your hard earnings and give you hard laws.
They'll send you to jail at last, and there to remain.
May the Devil double-double-triple-damn them!"
Said the soldier, "Amen."

"Here's to the ministers, they'll preach and they'll pray,
They'll take your hard earnings and fool it away.
They'll send you to hell at last, and there to remain.
May the Devil double-double-triple-damn them!"
Said the soldier, "Amen."

"Now here's to the farmer that follows his plough
And gets his hard earnings by the sweat of his brow.
Here's a health to the sailor and the soldier the same.
May the good God Almighty help them!"
And they both said, "Amen."

As sung by Captain Henry Burke aboard the Canadian three-mast schooner Leo le Blanc.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: nutty
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 04:21 PM

This is very similar to the version MMario posted. It was collected by Fred Hamer from the singing of Harry Scott of Bedfordshire and printed in the EFDS Publication "GARNERS GAY"

THE SOLDIER AND THE SAILOR
(traditional)

Oh the soldier and the sailor went a-walking one day
Said the soldier to the sailor, I'm a-going for to pray
I'm a-going for to pray for the good of all men
And whatever-ever I do pray for, you will answer Amen

The first thing that they came to was an old hollow tree
Said the soldier to the sailor, There's a pulpit for thee
Pray on said the soldier , pray on once again
And whatever-ever you do pray for, I will answer Amen

Now the first thing he prayed for was for our gracious Queen
Happy may she live and long may she reign
And where she had one man, I wish she had ten
She would always have a standing army. Cried the soldier, Amen

The next thing he prayed for was for be our gracious Queen
That she may have peace and plenty all the days of her reign
And where she has one ship, I wish she had ten
She would never ever want a navy, Cried the soldier, Amen

Now the next thing he prayed for was a quart of brown ale
And as long as we're drinking it may our hearts never fail
And where we have one quart I wish we had ten
Bravo, cried the soldier, I will answer, Amen


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Rog Peek
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 04:51 PM

verses I remember from Brunel University folk club 1966/67:

The soldier and the sailor went walking one day
said the soldier to the sailor "let's kneel down and pray


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Rog Peek
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 05:16 PM

Sorry, hit the wrong key, I'll start again:

The soldier and the sailor went walking one day
Said the soldier to the sailor "let's kneel down and pray,
And if we have one prayer, may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody litany" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
And if we have one prayer, may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody litany" said the sailor "Amen"


Said the soldier to the sailor "let's pray for some beer
Sing glory halleluiah may it fill us with cheer
And if we have one pint may we also have ten
Let's have a whole bloody brewery" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
"And if we have one pint may we also have ten
Let's have a whole bloody brewery" said the sailor "Amen"

Said the soldier to the sailor "let's pray for a wench
Sing glory halleluiah and may she be French
And if we have one wench may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody brothel" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
"And if we have one wench may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody brothel" said the sailor "Amen"

Said the soldier to the sailor "let's pray for a wife
May she make us happy for all of our life
And if we have one wife may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody harem" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
"And if we have one wife may we also have ten
Give us a whole bloody harem" said the sailor "Amen"

Said the soldier to the sailor "let's pray for the Queen
May she be as fertile as she's ever been
And if she has one son may she also have ten
Give her a whole bloody regiment" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
"And if she has one son may she also have ten
Give her a whole bloody regiment" said the sailor "Amen"

Said the soldier to the sailor "let's pray for the King
Sing glory halleluiah, what a bastard he's been
And if he has one shot may he also have ten
Give him a whole bloody clinic" said the sailor "Amen"
Sing toorali oorali oorali aye, toorali oorali oorali aye
And if he has one sshot may he also have ten
Give him a whole bloody clinic" said the sailor "Amen"


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Rumncoke
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:52 AM

I have the participants the other way round - that is a sailor and a soldier, so that the sailor is the lead - presumably in a Navy town such as Portsmouth (Hampshire England) that is to be expected.

First they imagine they are back at home.

Second verse they pray for beer/the whole brewery.

Third for cash/the Bank of England.

Fourth verse for peace/peace for evermore.

The tune is 'The larks they sang melodious' - otherwise 'Pleasant and delightful'


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST,ANTO
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:54 PM

An adapted version of A Soldier and a Sailor was very popular in the early 60s around dublin. After spending a long time trying to track it down I finally found it was written and recorded by Dominic Behan, and is on one of his L/ps. However, He changed the title to "May he also have Ten". As a newcomer, I don't know if you did a thread on "alternate titles" to folk songs, if not , it might be an idea.
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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Pra
From: Joe_F
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 09:19 PM

Rog Peek's text is the closest to mine so far.

I might mention that the tune to mine was pretty much "Villikins & his Dinah", except that at the end of the second line, instead sol being repeated twice, it was followed by la li (G A Bb, if you're in the key of C), with a long hold on the li.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 06:42 AM

"Well, then, next of all, let us pray for our queen,
And a jolly great mother to us she has been.
And if she have one brat, then may she have ten!
May she have a bloody army!" Said the sailor, "Amen!"

Not so much sedition as self interest. In the days of the "Tot" whenever the Queen gave birth "Splice the Mainbrace" was piped through the Fleet.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Lighter
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 07:24 PM

American Civil War buffs may enjoy the following, from W. L. Fagan's "Southern War Songs" (1892):

As a couple of good soldiers were walking one day,
Said one to the other: "Let's kneel down and pray!
I'll pray for the war, and the good of all men:
And whatever I pray for, do you say '"Amen!'"

"We'll pray for the generals and all of their crew,
Likewise for the captains and lieutenants too;
May good luck and good fortune them always attend,
And return safely home;" said the soldier, "Amen!"

"We'll pray for the privates, the noblest of all;
They do all the work and get no glory at all;
May good luck and good fortune them always attend,
And return crowned with laurels!" said the soldier, "Amen!"

"We'll pray for the pretty boys who want themselves wives,
And have not the courage to strike for themselves;
May bad luck and bad fortune them always attend!
And go down to Old Harry!" said the soldier, "Amen!"

"We'll pray for the pretty girls who make us good wives,
And always look at a soldier with tears in their eyes;
May good luck and good fortune them always attend!
And brave gallants for sweethearts!" said the soldier, "Amen!"

"We'll pray for the conscript, with frown on his brow,
To fight for his country, he won't take the vow;
May bad luck and bad fortune him always attend;
And die with dishonor!" said the soldier "Amen!"


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST,Helen
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 09:46 PM

And these are Hamish Imlach's lyrics to the song:

Well a soldier and a sailor went walking one day
Said the soldier to the sailor let? Come let us pray
And if we have one prayer we might as well have ten
Let's have a bloody litany said the sailor amen

And what shall we pray for? Let's pray for some beer
That wonderful beautiful glorious beer.
And if we have one beer we might as well have ten
Let's have a bloody brewery said the sailor amen

And now what shall we pray for? Let's pray for our wench.
Glory oh glory may she be French
And if we have one wench we might as well have ten
Let's have a bloody harem said the sailor amen

And now who shall we pray for? Let's pray for the Queen.
Glory o glory long may she reign.
And if she has one child may she also have ten,
May she have a bloody regiment said the sailor Amen.

Now who shall we pray for? Let's pray for the Duke.
That wonderful handsome great smiling bloke
And if he loses one hair may he also lose ten
May his highness go bald he said the sailor Amen


What last shall we pray for? Let's pray for world peace,
From Cape Town to China from Glasgow to Greece
And if we have one year we might as well have ten
May we never ever ever have another one said the sailor. Amen.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: Bugsy
Date: 07 Jun 11 - 03:58 AM

I remember Hamish singing,

"Now who shall we pray for? Let's pray for the Duke.
That wonderful handsome inteligent Pluke..."

I rather liked that version.


Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 01:47 AM

There is a chorus missing from the Canadian Army Version:

The Captains, the Majors, the half Colonels too,
Hands in their pockets with fuck all to do,
Drinking the pay of a squadron of men,
May God piss on them sideways, cries the Subalterns' lament

(Repeated after each verse)

DT


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 09:06 AM

I'm with Helen and Bugsy on Hamish's version, almost.....

"That wonderful, handsome, great smiling plook..."

"Plook / pluke" however you spell it means a pimple, or if you prefer, a "zit".

... and it was "May the bastard go baldy, said the Sailor, Amen"

Hamish would also on occasion change the towns or countries in the 3rd last line, depending on what was taking place in the world at the time. I distinctly remember Belfast being included on at least one occasion.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST,ClaudeTheDog
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 11:19 AM

I thought Hamish sang "That wonderful, handsome, great smiling FLUKE" (as in parasitic sucking worm). And I thought his last line was "May we never ever have another WAR, said the sailor,amen." I likely misheard, but both words work for me.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Soldier and the Sailor (Soldier's Prayer)
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 20 Apr 12 - 10:41 AM

Depends where and when you heard him. Last line's fine, but I seriously doubt that he ever sang "fluke". It was definitely "plook" whenever I heard it.


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