Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch Date: 18 Dec 19 - 10:32 PM Mentioned upthread (dead link.) Haven't linked the stage play to John Kemble/Covent Garden yet but it seems likely. “ SONG. (TUNE–“Heigho says Rowley!") Written by George Colman, Esq. Thimble’s scolding wife lay dead;— “Heigho!" says Thimble, “My dearest duck's defunct in bed; “Death has cabbaged her —Oh! she's fled! “With her roley, poley, gammon and spinage, “Heigho!” says Thimble. Thimble buried his wife that night! “Heigho " says Thimble; “I grieve to sew up my heart’s delight,” With her diamond ring on her finger tight! And her roley, poley, &c. To saw off her finger, and steal the ring, Soon came the sexton; She sat up an end, and she gave a fling, Crying, damme, you dog, you steal no such thing; With your roley, poley, &c. And off run the sexton. She stalk'd, to her home, and she made a din; “Heigho!” cried Thimble; Then popp'd out his head, and said with a grin, “You are dead, dearest duck! and I can't let you in;” With your roley, poley, &c.” [Killing No Murder: A Farce in Two Acts, Hook, 1809, p.38] |
Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch Date: 18 Dec 19 - 01:01 AM “No. 109.—King John in a Cocked Hat, or Heigh Ho says Kemble.—A Parody on the famous Grimaldian Song, called "the Frog in the Opera Hat.' (Morning Chronicle, Nov. 7, 1809.) John Kemble he would an acting go, Heigho! says Kemble; He rais'd the price which he thought too low, Whether the public would let him or no; With his roly-poly, gammon, and spinnage, And ho! says manager Kemble. The mob at the door made a mighty din, Heigho! says Kemble, They dash'd like devils thro' thick and thin, And over the benches came tumbling in, With their roly, &c. 'Twill do says manager Kemble. Soon as they pass'd Bill Shakspeare's hall, Heigho! says Kemble; They thought the lobbies were much too small, So they gave a loud roar and they gave a loud bawl, With roly, &c. Hollo! says manager Kemble. “Pray what do you want (in a sort of a huff) Heigho! says Kemble; Says Mr. Leigh.—"Nonsensical stuff, Pho! none of your gammon, you know well enough. With your roly, &c. You do, great manager Kemble." He held by the tip his opera-hat, Heigho! says Kemble; "Indeed the concern's as poor as a rat;" Says Bull, "No dam'me, we won't stand that," With our roly, &c. 'Twon't do, great manager Kemble. He folded his arms, in a sad nonplus, Heigho! says Kemble; With Queen Anne's prices he made a fuss, Says Bull, "What the devil's Queen Anne to us," With roly, &c. 'Twon't do, great manager Kemble. He swore to himself an oath, by Styx, Heigho! says Kemble; Kind ladies and gentlemen, none of your tricks, I love seven shillings much better than six, With my roly, &c. I do, says manager Kemble. Then roar'd the gallery, gentle souls, Heigho! says Kemble; No private boxes, no pigeon-holes, We'll dowse your glims,* in a crack, by goles, With roly, &c. No, don't, says manager Kemble. I can't those private boxes rob, Heigho! says Kemble; With Lord O'Straddle† I drink hob and nob, And Tm hand and glove with my Lord Thingumbob;‡ With his roly-poly, gammon, and spinnage, Goodnight! says manager Kemble. * Put out the Lights † L—d B-y-m-e. ‡ D-e N—f. [The Covent Garden Journal, Stockdale, ed., 1810, pp.663-665] Old Price Riots And yes, same Kemble family, if the name rings a bell. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Nov 17 - 08:22 PM The two verses that Richard Dyer-Bennet composed, with the happy ending referred to above, are as follows: Then Frog and Mouse lived happily, mm-hmm, Then Frog and Mouse lived happily, mm-hmm, Then Frog and Mouse lived happily, And they were blessed with children three, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. mm-hmm. And one did croak and two did squeak, mm-hmm, And one did croak and two did squeak, mm-hmm, One did croak and two did squeak, And they had long tails and webbed feet, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. mm-hmm. Cheerily, Charlie Ipcar |
Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: EBarnacle Date: 26 Nov 17 - 11:40 AM One thing I don't see here is the theory that many of the American versions are meant to be commentaries of Andrew Jackson's courtship. The couplet "Not without my uncle rat's consent, I wouldn't marry the President" is believed to be a direct reference. At the time of the courtship, I believe one of them was still married to someone else. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Nigel Parsons Date: 24 Nov 17 - 12:15 PM Wysiwyg's link to 'Crambone |
Subject: RE: Origins: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Nov 17 - 08:26 AM Crambone is from a Tom and Jerry cartoon (Quimby), when Uncle Pecos comes to visit Jerry. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_FyJyurljoM ~S~ |
Subject: ADD Version: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Mr. Trashcan Bass Date: 25 Aug 12 - 01:18 PM Here's the variant I like to do. FROG WENT A-COURTIN' Frog went a courtin' and he did try uh huh Frog went a courtin' and he did try uh huh Frog went a courtin' and he did try to make miss mousie his new bride uh huh, uh huh, uh huh Mouse said to be a bride uh huh (x2) Mouse said to be a bride gotta ask dad if it's alright uh huh (x3) Frog asked dad if it's alright uh huh (x2) Frog asked dad if it's alright dad said well me oh my uh huh (x3) Dad knew frog was a rich man uh huh (x2) Dad knew frog was a rich man so he said alright you can uh huh (x3) Frog asked mouse if she'd wear white uh huh (x2) Frog asked mouse if she'd wear white mouse said something dark as night uh huh (x3) Frog had to think about that uh huh (x2) Frog had to think about that he said maybe I'll marry a cat uh huh (x6) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:54 PM Joe Offer posted the Harney and Biller version in thread 23092. Good Old Wagon A fine ole song. Any resemblance of the tune to "Froggy" seems coincidental to me. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:39 PM "You've Been a Good Old Wagon" as sung by Bessie Smith can be heard on www.redhotjazz.com/bessie.html (recorded 1-14-25, Columbia 14079-D) See thread 92186 for lyrics posted by Mike Pearce. You've been a good old wagon The lyrics in Bessie's version are humorous but not 'racist'. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: PHJim Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:29 AM My dad used to sing this to us when we were kids. The main story was the same, but there was a different form to the song. I recall the last two verses were: They rowed their boat across the lake, Heigho, says Roly! They rowed their boat across the lake, And got swallowed up by a big black snake, With a roly-poly, gammon and spinach, Heigho, says Anthony Roly! That was the end of him and her, Heigho, says Roly! That was the end of him and her, Now we won't have tadpoles covered in fur, With a roly-poly, gammon and spinach, Heigho, says Anthony Roly! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,josepp Date: 19 Jun 12 - 12:11 PM The melody of "Froggy" was used in an old ragtime tune from the 1890s called "You Been a Good Ol' Wagon but You Done Broke Down." I have a vocal version of it from that period but the lyrics are racist. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Jul 10 - 08:28 PM My mother painted a series of illustrations of this delightful song for her sister-in-law back in the 1930's. If there is any interest, I can post the digital images on my Facebook page with a link here; you will have to sign up as a member of Facebook to view them but that's not too hard. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 10 Jul 10 - 08:40 PM The French-Canadian band, Genticorum, sing a song they call Pinson et Cendrouille, which also goes by the name of La Noce Des Oiseaux, The Birds' Wedding, on their CD, La Bibournoise. Although it's about birds, not a frog and a mouse, it follows much of the story line, with various other animals bringing things to the wedding. It even ends when a cat disrupts the proceedings. I suspect that Froggy and La Noce have a common ancestor. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Guest Date: 30 Oct 08 - 04:14 PM All great information. My Grandmother knew the Sons of the Pioneers and Shug Fisher, so good history for me. Still wondering where tabs are? Can't read sheet music to save my soul and would like to teach this to my son. |
Subject: ADD: Mouse on the Hill From: Joe Offer Date: 10 Oct 08 - 01:51 AM This is a very unusual version of "Froggy" - no frog. MOUSE ON THE HILL There was an old mouse that live on the hill, uh-hunh, There was an old mouse that live on the hill, uh-hunh, There was an old mouse that live on the hill, He was rough and tough like a Buffalo Bill, Uh-hunh, uh-hunh, uh-hunh. One day he said he was going for a ride... With his sword and pistol by his side... Well, he rode up to Missus Mousie's door... And he knocked and he knocked 'til his fist got sore... Well, I asked Missus Mousie would she marry me.... All she said, Just wait and see.... Missus Mousie says I can't do that... You have to ask my Brother Rat... Brother Rat had gone to town... To buy Missus Mousie her wedding gown... The wedding was said on the big oak tree (?)... They had corn bread, cabbage, and black-eyed peas... There was a piece of corn bread laying on the shelf... If you want any more, you gotta sing it yourself.... This uses the usual tune. As sung by Warner Williams transcribed by ear from the Smithsonian Folkways compilation, Classic African-American Ballads -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST Date: 28 Mar 07 - 02:02 PM Does anyone know if a version of Froggy went a-courtin' by Shug Fisher exists??...I'm referring to the version he sang on Tom & Jerry's Pecos Pest cartoon.... I know Shug was a member of the Sons of the Pioneers and there is a cd called the Teleway transcriptions that has a version on it...but I'm not sure if Shug sings it.....any help out there please?? Travis |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Joe_F Date: 21 Sep 04 - 06:30 PM There are two versions in _Rise Up Singing_ -- one under "Froggie Went a-Courtin'", which finishes them off with a cat *and* a snake, and a modern one by Leslie Haworth under "Here's to Cheshire, Here's to Cheese", with a jolly chorus that contrasts ever more poignantly with the turn of events. It ends Well, this is the end of him and her Ding dang dong go the wedding bells Won't be no tadpoles covered in fur Ding dang dong go the wedding bells Here's to Cheshire, here's to cheese Here's to the pears and the apple trees And here's to the lovely strawberries Ding dang dong go the wedding bells Pete Seeger sang that one, and I like it a lot. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Froggy Central Date: 21 Sep 04 - 06:24 PM Laura, Nope, not a different song all together, just one of the many variants that have cropped up over 500 years. At the website I set up for collecting verses (clik.to/frog ), I also created a page for tunes and a page for refrains. There are a surprising number of tunes with the same basic words. In the US, 'gammon' usually becomes 'cabbage' because I don't think anyone on this side of the pond calls bacon 'gammon'. Also, from what I've been able to dig up, Anthony Roly (or Rowley) was probably a reference to an Italian opera singer that made a splash in London in the 18th or 18th century. But I've not been able to get anything definitive on this. If that link doesn't work, try http://home.earthlink.net/~highying/froggy/froggy.html all for now david |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: *Laura* Date: 21 Sep 04 - 02:04 PM I always used to know a nursery rhyme version: a frog he would a woo-ing go hey ho said roly a frog he would a wooing go, whether his mother would let him or no, with a roly-poly gammon and spinach hey ho said anthony roly! but i think its a different song altogeher. but hey! frog in - frog out! xLx |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:00 PM Mmario: I'm not sure of the standard you designate as "a good MP3" of this song, but if it will serve your purpose I can do you an MP3 of my rendition of it--which, having no humility at all, I will say is "not TOO shaggy". Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: froggy went a courtin, need lyrics, chords From: GUEST,Froggy Central Date: 21 Sep 04 - 10:02 AM Well, I noticed my old link to "over 160 verses from 27 sources" is in this thread, but I moved my website and left no trail. So here is the quickest way to the site (it's been updated a few times since). In your URL field, just enter: clik.to/frog If that doesn't work, try the long form: http://home.earthlink.net/~highying/froggy/froggy.html I expect to update it again soon with some of the sources I spotted on this thread. Thanks for the leads. As always, any helpful feedback is appreciated (Froggy Central ). I hope never to change webservers, but if I ever do, I'll try to keep the shortcut (clik.to/frog) working. It's the only one I can remember. thanks, david |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Lighter at work Date: 21 Sep 04 - 09:53 AM Nice site, Froggy! Frogs rule! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Froggy Central Date: 21 Sep 04 - 09:44 AM Well, I noticed my old link to "over 160 verses from 27 sources" is in this thread, but I moved my website and left no trail. So here is the quickest way to the site (it's been updated a few times since). In your URL field, just enter: clik.to/frog If that doesn't work, try the long form: http://home.earthlink.net/~highying/froggy/froggy.html I expect to update it again soon with some of the sources I spotted on this thread. Thanks for the leads. As always, any helpful feedback is appreciated (Froggy Central ). I hope never to change webservers, but if I ever do, I'll try to keep the shortcut (clik.to/frog ) working. It's the only one I can remember. thanks, JD |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Big Jim from Jackson Date: 10 Mar 04 - 09:45 AM Even the mighty Bob Dylan (a legend in his own mind) does a nice version of "Froggie" on his album "Good As I Been To You". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,MMario Date: 10 Mar 04 - 09:16 AM I don't usually do this - but does anyone happen to have a good mp3 or wav of this song? Burl Ives by preference - but since I've been unable to find ANY files of this song- any artist will do at this point. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: masato sakurai Date: 10 Mar 04 - 09:14 AM GUEST, if my memory is correct, the Richard Dyer-Bennet version has a live-happily-ever-after ending. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Joanne Date: 10 Mar 04 - 07:26 AM I'm looking for the lyrics of the Tex Ritter version of Froggy Went A Courtin. Does anyone have it? If so, please email me at emuoil@aol.com Thanks! :) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Gareth Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:09 PM Hmmm ! - Just a thought - Could "A frog he went a courting" have been adappted as an 'Anti-Gallacian' stance in the 1790's/1800's. I very distantly recall, somewhere, seeing a "gilray" type print on this theme. Tricocked hat, sword and buckler might, I repeat might, support this. Gareth |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: IanC Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:13 PM Guest You're mad! ... children love ghoulish songs. I used Weelya Woya as a lullaby and Lord Randall after that. If they weren't asllep by then, they were surely pretending ... ;-) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST Date: 03 Jan 04 - 09:51 AM I sing "Froggy went a'Courtin" to my kids with the usual lyrics but leave out the verse where he(they) get eaten.,.its better if Froggy and Miss Mousie live happily ever after..if I sang they got eaten their faces would drop and they'd be asking "why did he get killed, Daddy?" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST Date: 09 Dec 03 - 08:57 PM Tex Ritter (John Ritter's dad) recorded "Froggy Went a Courtin" back in the 40's or early 50's. |
Subject: ADD Version: Froggy Would A-Wooing Go From: Cluin Date: 02 Dec 03 - 10:04 AM I really like the version by Robin Williamson on his Songs for Children of All Ages album. FROGGY WOULD A-WOOING GO Froggy would a wooing go (cuddy alane. cuddy alane) Froggy would a wooing go (cuddy alane and a') Froggy would a wooing go Whether his mummy would let him or no (keek maleerie, cowden down (cuddy alane and a') He went to Mistress Mousie's door... Where often he had been before... He took Miss Mousie on his knee... "Mousie will you marry me?"... "Sir, I could not answer that... Until I ask my Uncle Rat"... Uncle Rat he laughed and cried ... "This very night youll be a bride"... Then they all sat down to dine.. Partaking of some sherry wine.. The piper was a bumble bee... The drummer was a dark-eyed flea... The fiddler was an old tom CAT! (full stop there) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Nigel Parsons Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:52 AM Of course, there's always the "Crambone" version as sung by "Uncle Pecos"(voiced by Shug Fisher) in the Tom & Jerry cartoon. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 01 Dec 03 - 11:09 AM Maybe because the characters aren't human beings and/or there's not enough "conflict" in the story. It may also have been too "childish" for him. Just guesses. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Kent Davis Date: 30 Nov 03 - 11:09 PM I've always wondered why Child didn't include this in "The English and Scottish Popular Ballads"? Anyone know or have a good guess? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: IanC Date: 28 Nov 03 - 06:37 AM Very useful Q, it is the article I linked to on 9th July. :-( |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 26 Nov 03 - 03:45 PM A very interesting article, "The History of "The Frog's Courtship: A Study of Canadian Variants," from the Canadian Journal of Traditional Music," 1990, is on line at: Frog's Courtship It also surveys the melody and lyrics of the song (inc. sheet music) from "The Frog came to the Myl Dur", "Kitty Alone," etc. and the other antecedents to Canadian versions. Printable text available through IE. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 24 Jul 03 - 03:19 PM The first stanza and chorus of a "down to cairo" version is sung in the excellent film "Sergeant York" (1941). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: masato sakurai Date: 23 Jul 03 - 08:13 PM Quoted (with typos corrected) from David G. H. Parsons's article linked to above: The text of The Complaynt of Scotland is at The Oxford Text Archive. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST Date: 23 Jul 03 - 05:04 PM No Elizabeth version is elsewhere known (except for a Stationers' Register entry). What's your evidence for that? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,hazytay@yahoo.com Date: 23 Jul 03 - 04:49 PM My grandfather from SE Kentucky sang a version of Froggy went a courtin to us that included the words"child of Widdley Way" I have heard this an old Elizabethan English version. I would love to have the words and history. Thanks ever so much for any help. I love your site, lots of fun.Hazy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Q Date: 09 Jul 03 - 02:13 PM Too bad, Ian. I wish I had copied. This may have been posted before- Max Hunter Coll. versions and audio: Froggy These can be obtained directly at the Max Hunter site, but the texts are set up nicely for printing in this teaching website. Other parts of the website are worth checking out. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: IanC Date: 09 Jul 03 - 06:32 AM I've noticed that the site I linked to near the top - the one with dozens of versions of the song and quite a lot of information - has disappeared fom the web, which is an enormous shame. Here's a nice article about the song from the Canadian Journal For Traditional Music :-) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,postwave@aol.com Date: 08 May 03 - 03:48 AM I am very very very interested in my 20th year of life to reflect back on an old 45 that I had of Froggy Went A'Coutin'. I know it started off like this... Froggy went a'courtin' on a fine spring day... notice the spring day, it was a children's version I would kill for anything with that version on it. Thanks. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Luke who is guest Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:05 AM Malcolm Dalglish sings a version with the refrain, keemo kymo london kymo keemo kymo kayro, strim stram pomydiddle lodi bodi rig dam rig dam yunna bida kymo. It has the distinction of ending with. "That was the end of him and her>Wont be no tadpoles coverd with fir. There is a "king kong kichy can't you kymio in between each of the verse frases. It's very fine indeed. I been singing it for years. All my kids sing it this way. Luke |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: raredance Date: 03 Feb 02 - 04:31 PM Becky--you read my mind. (thread creep- once the fly has married the bumblebee, would the progeny be flies with stingers or bees with halteres?) rich r |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Desert Dancer Date: 03 Feb 02 - 04:25 PM rich r -- as a folkie with a background in zoology, my favorite verse, from the site with "over 160 verses of Froggy Went a Courtin' compiled from 27 sources" linked above is That was the end of him and her -- won't be no tadpoles covered in fur! ~ Becky in Tucson
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,oulmole Date: 03 Feb 02 - 01:15 PM Yeah didn't work. Phooey. Dunno where to put the magic "Click Here". (It's not the directions; it's me. Ahhh th' p'lice'll exshplain matthers......) Here's the whole URL then, while I re-study how to get the "HERE" thing: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=26326#315868 --Joe in CT
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Oulmole Date: 03 Feb 02 - 01:10 PM My favorite version is presented, with terrific commentary, by Alice Flynn in an October 2000 Mudcat thread---a link to which I will ATTEMPT (very dubiously) to put below. (I'm trying to do the bright-blue "here" clicky-tricky thingie per the Newcomer's Guide directions; but I'm severely HTML-challenged, so if it's no good please excuse. I'll try to re-do it if it doesn't work.) --Joe in Connecticut /thread.cfm?threadid=26326#315868
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Peg Date: 03 Feb 02 - 10:49 AM On the television show "King of the Hill" which is set in Arlen, Texas, young Bobby Hill oftens sings this...He yearsn to be an entertainer and this is one of his "standards."...very funny.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: masato sakurai Date: 03 Feb 02 - 07:15 AM As for variants, these supplemental notes to Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music (CLICK HERE) are of help. ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: masato sakurai Date: 03 Feb 02 - 06:29 AM David G. H. Parsons wrote a paper on Canadian variants, which is online: The History of 'The Frog's Courtship': A Study of Canadian Variants (The Canadian Journal for Traditional Music, 1990) ~Masato
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: E.T. Date: 03 Feb 02 - 01:06 AM Version I learned had an odd chorus: Frog went a courtin' he did ride, Ring-tum body mich-i-cambo. Sword and buckler by his side, Ring-tum body mich-i-cambo. Ti-maria down to cairo, ti-maria cai-ri-o. Rattle-bd-tl-lattl-bd-tl-lattl-bd-tl-lattl-bd-tl-linkum Rinkum bodi mich-i-cambo! (phonetically here since I had it on tape). There was an interesting article somewhere about "nonsense" lyrics and tracing them back to their original words. Any input? (Curiosity killed the cat). Elaine. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: raredance Date: 02 Feb 02 - 10:24 PM I've always been excited by the genetic ramifications of the lexicon of interspecific breeding songs. rich r |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST Date: 02 Feb 02 - 08:00 PM It's Roud# 16 in Steve Roud's folk song index. I gave up counting the number of versions he has listed when I got to 300.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: masato sakurai Date: 02 Feb 02 - 07:30 PM The original pages of Melismata are HERE, with modern edition. Scroll down to "21. It was the Frogge in the well" (pages 37-38). ~Masato |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE MARRIAGE OF THE FROGGE AND THE MOUSE From: Jim Dixon Date: 02 Feb 02 - 06:19 PM I can't resist posting this. Copied from the link posted by IanC above (with some editing): THE MARRIAGE OF THE FROGGE AND THE MOUSE
'Twas the Frogge in the well,
The Frogge he would a woing ride...
When he was upon his high horse set...
When he came to a merry mill pin...
Then came out the dusty Mouse...
"Hast thou any minde of me?"...
Who shall this marriage make?...
What shall we have to our supper?...
When supper they were at...
Then came in gib our cat...
Then did they separate...
Then came in Dicke our Drake...
The Rat run up the wall... [From "Melismata - Musicall Phansies Fitting the Court, Citie, and Countrey Humours, To 3, 4, and 5 Voyces," London, 1611.] |
Subject: Lyr Add: FROG WENT A-COURTIN' From: GUEST,B in Northern Ontario Date: 08 Aug 01 - 07:46 PM FROG WENT A-COURTIN’ Frog went a-courtin’ he did ride, hmm (2x) Frog went a-courtin’ he did ride Sword and his pistol by his side, hmm
Rode right up to Miss Mouse’s door, hmm (2x)
Said he, “Miss Mouse, are you within?”...
He took Miss Mousie on his knee....
“Without my Uncle Rat’s consent...
Uncle Rat he laughed and shook his fat sides...
Uncle Rat went a-runnin’ down to town...
Where shall the wedding supper be?...
What shall the wedding supper be?...
First to come in was a flying moth....
Next to come in, a juney bug...
Next to come in was a bumberly bee,...
Next to come in was a broken-backed flea,...
Next to come in was Mrs. Cow,...
Next to come in was a little black tick....
Next to come in was Dr. Fly....
Next to come was a big black snake....
Next to come in was an old gray cat....
Mr. Frog went a-jumpin’ over the brook....
Little piece of cornbread lying on the shelf.... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,masato sakurai Date: 08 Aug 01 - 12:01 PM L.W. Payne, Jr. wrote a paper on the song in 1926: "Some Texas versions of The Frog's Courting." The paper appeared in Rainbow in the Morning (Texas Folklore Society, 1926; reprinted Folklore Asssociates, 1965, pp. 5-48). In it there are 20 full Texas versions, along with its brief history and comaprative analysis. See also Peter Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland (Cassell, 1975, no. 294) for bibliograpny and discography. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: pavane Date: 08 Aug 01 - 10:20 AM Sorry, not a parody, just a song to the same tune! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: pavane Date: 08 Aug 01 - 10:19 AM Here is a parody dated 1809, from the Bodleian Ballad library |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: Steve Latimer Date: 08 Aug 01 - 08:12 AM Ian C. Wow!!!! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: IanC Date: 08 Aug 01 - 05:02 AM Try this ... it's here! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: pavane Date: 08 Aug 01 - 04:51 AM There are some images of broadsides in the Bodleian Ballad library, don't know whether these versions have been transacribed by anyone Frog in a Cock'd Hat The Frog in the Cock'd Hat (Partially illegible) There is also mention of some parodies to the same tune, but the images are missing.
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Subject: Froggy Went A-Courtin' From: GUEST,Jaina Date: 08 Aug 01 - 02:59 AM I am trying to collect as many possible versions of "Froggy Went A-Courtin'" (aka "Mr. Frog Did A-Courtin' Go", etc.) Anyone got any they want to share? Thanks! |
Subject: RE: froggy went a courtin,, need lyrics, chords From: Nathan (nsarvis@iolt.com) Date: 17 Jun 99 - 07:49 PM David Highland, autoharp & dulcimer player from Austin, has a whole site dedicated to this song. Check it out at http://home.earthlink.net/~highying/froggy/froggy.html
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Subject: froggy went a courtin,, need lyrics, chords From: chris c Date: 17 Jun 99 - 02:31 PM My Dad wants me to play this for him at family reunion anyone out there have the lyrics/chords? |
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