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Subject: pete and arlo From: dani Date: 23 Jan 98 - 06:36 PM Of course I can't now remember who it was, but someone expressed interest in the album Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie did together in 1975(?). If it can't be found in stores, it exists on my block and can be copied, if necessary. Just let me know. I happen to think owning this album IS necessary, but that's just me! Each song and story is more precious than the last. Dani |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Jan 98 - 08:01 PM I like the two more recent albums Pete and Arlo did, and they're available on CD. The first one didn't come out on CD, and it's the best of the three; and I've plumb worn out my cassette. Maybe we should lobby Arlo for a reissue. There are lots of Arlo reissues coming off the presses, even as we speak. Maybe we'll be lucky and they'll give us the Pete & Arlo album. The first one is called "Together In Concert," and it came out on Warner in 1975. The second, "Precious Friend," came out on Warner in 1982. "More Together Again" came out on the Rising Son Records (get it?) label in 1994. -Joe Offer- Click here for Arlo's Web Site |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: GaryD Date: 23 Jan 98 - 11:08 PM Hi, Joe..Boy I envy your library..I have a real soft spot for Pete..Amazingly enough, the guy has even heard "me" sing..A lengthy but favorite incident when I sent him a tape asking him to try and schedule a concert closer in to my part of the country & I sang a Scandinavian Dialect song called, "Swanson, Swenson, & Jensen" to finish off the end of the tape..I even heard from him & he wanted to consider it for publication in Sing out!....It's kind of like you being invited to play with that ball team you loved on that other thread. I can tell you further adventures regarding that, but not now. My wife bought a CD of his for me for Christmas..I'm always amazed at how the guy can get an audience to sing in part harmony, to songs they never even heard before!..I saw Arlo at a local University Fiddle & Folk Festival, (with Paxton & other greats) a couple of summers ago..It seemed just like old times..he has that same laid back manner.. Really miss those 60's.. |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Sir Date: 23 Jan 98 - 11:25 PM Another great recording is one of a Woody G. tribute concert in the late 60's or early 70's. It featured many of the greats in folk music and of course lots of good Woody songs and readings by Peter Fonda and Will Geer. That along with the Pete and Arlo LP from '75 were among my favorites. |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Jan 98 - 03:42 AM Sir, I think that "A Tribute to Woody Guthrie" album is still available on CD from Warner Brothers. If I'm reading it correctly, it's #9 26036-2. I got mine from the BMG CD Club. Don't know if BMG still carries it - they don't seem to keep folk CD's on hand for very long. It certainly is a great album. Arlo's recording of "Oklahoma Hills" is my favorite cut on the album, I think. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Sir Date: 24 Jan 98 - 08:03 AM Thanks, Joe. The reading by Will Geer on the album was used as a voice over at the end of the movie "Bound for Glory" starring David Carradine as Woody. I don't know that it was a great movie but it was good to see a major film based on a "folk" theme. (That might make a nice thread - Movies about Mudcat Music Interests) |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: rich r Date: 25 Jan 98 - 04:36 PM Pete & Arlo are also sort of together on the HARP concert recording that also included Ronnie Gilbert and Holy Near. Holly, Arlo, Ronnie, Pete = HARP rich r |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 26 Jan 98 - 05:40 PM If you are really after obscure recordings, Arlo and Pete played together at the 1980 Atlantic Folk Festival in Hardwoodlands, Nova Scotia. ( I was there suffering in a hot puptent) The festivals were taped. I am told by a friend who recently spoke to the man who promoted the festival that those tapes were donated to the Nova Scotia Archives. So if you happen to be in Halifax you might give them a listen. Arlo even sang Alice's Restaurant. I could have sworn my life away that I saw TV cameras throughout the whole of that festival, but the promoter told my friend that he doesn't recall any such thing. Something must have got to my brain that weekend . . . |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Jan 98 - 05:50 PM Tim - Arlo ALWAYS sings "Alice's Restaurant" John McCutcheon ALWAYS sings "Christmas in the Trenches" Loudon Wainwright III ALWAYS sings "Dead Skunk," and he says he really hates the song (there are many Wainwright songs I hate more). I guess there was a period when Arlo did not sing "Alice's Restaurant," but that was a short time. Maybe he didn't feel forced to do it at the concerts he did with Pete Seeger. It's a great song, but it's so long that it eliminates a lot of new stuff in a concert if he does it. I suppose the same is true for Don McLean and "American Pie." Are there other folkie performers who are burdened with lengthy or obnoxious songs they have to perform at every concert? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 26 Jan 98 - 06:09 PM I may or may not have correctly remembered TV cameras that weekend -- and who knows, maybe some individual bands were doing it -- but I do remember Arlo saying that he hadn't been singing the song for a while but had started again. He said he wanted us to sing the chorus loud enough for them to hear us in the US. Something to do with a system to register for the draft in the States that annoyed him. Was the post office/ draft thing around that time? (August 1 to 3, 1980 -- I have the poster framed on my office wall. Ah, those were the days . . .) |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: dick greenhaus Date: 26 Jan 98 - 06:20 PM Thr easiest way to resist an audience's demands for stale material is to stop singing for audiences. There's an old saw abot he who pays the piper... |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Elektra Date: 26 Jan 98 - 11:16 PM Actually, when I saw Arlo here last year (two years ago?) he started to sing Alice's but said he couldn't remember all the words 'cause it had been so long... We were in the back so he couldn't hear us, but apparently no one closer was willing to help him out either, so he stumbled through part of the opening, (with the usual Arlo-esque embellishments of course,) threw in a chorus or two and that was about it. :( Still a GREAT show though. (He is very friendly in person, too.) He did get pretty pissed at one point though, 'cause he was using the (hired-local-who-shall-be-nameless) sound guy's PA and it died partway thru the show. As in, COMPLETE silence. Arlo tried to keep playing thru it, but after a couple of minutes he realized nobody could hear him but a few people in the front row, so he just kinda stopped, tried to laugh it off, and then pretended to be pissed. Exaggerated tapping his foot, whistling, glancing at his "watch"... finally he just looked up and GLARED at the guy... (By that time, I surmise he WAS pissed.) Otherwise a TERRIFIC show!! (The poor slob DID get the system back up and running shortly after Arlo apologized and finally started to walk offstage, presumably to raise hell.) I'm SURE it's a song by NOW... |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: rich r Date: 27 Jan 98 - 12:48 AM Joe, You're right about Don McLean and American Pie. I saw him a couple months ago and he did do it. He also said that because of that song he wouldn't have had to go on the road and sing again if he didn't want to. But he does travel and he does sing because he enjoys it. Peiople usually like to hear at least one song they recognize in a concert, what better way to cover that than with the song everybody knows. If you have never have had a hit, then you have the luxury of doing something new and different each time (I have personally not done a song because I know a couple people in the collective audience of 5 or more have heard me do it a couple years ago. But then I have no recording contracts and I have no hits so I cannot even do a medley of my hit) Bobby Shane always sings "Scotch & Soda"; Gordon Lightfoot sings "If You Could Read My Mind" and that shipwreck song; John Denver sang "Annies Song" & "Rocky Mountain High"; Ian Tyson does "Summer Wages" (even put it on at least 4 albums); Judy Collins does "Amazing Grace"; Bill Staines does "Place In The Choir" & etc. As Dick said, paying customers expect to be catered to or they will stop paying. rich r
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Jerry Friedman Date: 28 Jan 98 - 03:50 PM I saw Arlo and Abe almost two years ago in Socorro, NM, and Arlo explained in reasonable tones why he would NOT sing "Alice's Restaurant". And he didn't. Fine with me (because he did sing "Good Morning, America"). Also, he abbreviated "Whoopee-ti-yi-yo" and "This Land is Your Land". I suspect he may be getting tired of them, too.
Trivia two-liner fill-in-the-blank question: They were non-folk musicians. I have a feeling someone's going to come up with two completely different people from the ones I've heard this attributed to, and we'll have to figure out which one is an urban legend. |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Barry Date: 28 Jan 98 - 05:42 PM I remember seeing Peggy Segger & Ewan MaColl at a house concert in LA yrs back & Pweggy asking if there were any request except the one (can't remember exactly) someting about First Time Ever I Washed Your Face, she said she couldn't stop herself from thinking about laundry or shopping lists or other chores, & that it wasn't fair to herself or her listeners if this was what was happening behind the scenes while she was singing. Fair enough. Barry |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: lesblank Date: 28 Jan 98 - 08:36 PM Jerry: Don't know the first line but the first time I ever heard the line about "medley of our hit" , I was sitting in row 11, seat 6(and 7) in the Santa Monica Civic auditorium on March 24, 1960. The famous line was delivered by Travis Edmonson of Bud and Travis, one of the most underrated folk acts ever. |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: GaryD Date: 28 Jan 98 - 10:47 PM Keeping fresh with demand for your old tunes has got to be tough!.. I can't comprehend how some performers can do the same performance for years & years & keep their spirits up.. Obviously it has to be that they are flattered for being a success, but they don't want to strangle their creative juices either! In my humble opinion, Peter, Paul, and Mary do that balance very well..They appear to really enjoy the OLD, but always manage to surprise me with the great NEW. A sad commentary of the opposite was Ricky Nelson..I saw him not long before his death & his style was so changed & harsh I couldn't listen to it.. I'm sure he had his fans of the NEW, but rejecting all the OLD lost the magic (for me).. "Garden Party" pretty prophetic? Gary |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Dani Date: 29 Jan 98 - 10:06 AM Just a few weeks ago saw the Reverend Billy C. Wirtz (if you have to ask...)and he does a hysterical song called 'Stairway to Free Bird' about performing at a drunken frat party and getting the eponymous requests. Puts it in perspective for us non-performers. |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: GUEST,Laura Lee Date: 08 Jun 00 - 07:17 PM The Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie album from 1975 is being re-released according to www.arlo.net. Here's the message: As many of you know, up until now, the only way you could get a copy of Arlo Guthrie & Pete Seeger's "Together In Concert" was to visit used record stores. Well, I just heard from Cindy at Rising Son Records...and they are currently waiting for the CD's of this album to arrive! There's also some other new cool stuff... and hopefully, by Monday, you'll be able to see it all and order it through the Rising Son Records web site! The URL is: http://www.risingson.com/ Two other CDs with Pete Seeger are also available there. Along with other stuff. Laura Lee http://www.albany.net/~lauralee/church.htm |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Jun 00 - 07:33 PM Although I have it myself, I want to thank you for bringing the info back here Laura Lee. On the right thread and everything. Thanks so much. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: pete and arlo From: Mike Regenstreif Date: 08 Jun 00 - 08:03 PM I'm a little surprised to see this news because I got the 2-CD set of "Together In Concert" from Rising Son more than four months ago. Over the course of February-March-April, I eventually played the whole set on Folk Roots/Folk Branches. It was a big hit with listeners. Now, I'm gradually working through "Precious Friend," Pete and Arlo's second live collection. Mike Regenstreif |
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