Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre

Subject: Need a song that matches the metre of...
From: GUEST,LynnC
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 10:51 AM

Hey all. Hiya Mmario, Hi CarolC.

I'd like to beg the favour of the Mudcat collected godlike wisdom once more.

I need a tune that matches the metre of "Do your Ears hang Low?". I am to understand that "The Beverly Hillbillies", "Amazing Grace", and maybe even "Battle Hymn of the Republic" do, but I need something a little more trad, a little less recognizable, and a lot less sitcom.

Any takers?

TIA,

Lynn

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 11:48 AM

if it fits those three - then it fits "House of the rising Sun"; should fit "Essiquibo River"; also the tune Alan foster used for "The wolfhound" works. see the midi on alan's midi page. it is one of the tunes used for child ballad #100.

My problem is *I* can't fit "Do your ears hang low" to those tunes. *grin*

now - it fits to the sailor's hornpipe, and almost fits to Irish washerwoman.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: GUEST,Lynn C
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 02:03 PM

Thanks Mmario! How did I know you'd be the first to post?

I know I have heard "Essiquibo", but for the life of me, cannot remember the tune. I'll look at the database and see if there's a wavfile for it.

I know it may sound weird, but I fit lyrics that worked with some of these tunes to "Do your ears...", only to find out that the band would rather the tune be something else. Come see me this fall, and I will sing "Amazing Grace" for you to the tune of "Do your ears..."

Thanks!!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 02:31 PM

well - y'know - you posted during my morning coffee break or I would have gotten back to you sooner...There are also bunches of hymn tunes that would fit if it can go to the gilligans/amazing grace family. some of which would be just familiar enough to really puzzle people.

If you don't find a wav file of Essiquibo- I bet Skiv knows it. *grin*

I'll hold you to that - I'm hoping to abandon the mudcats during the FSGW getaway for the duration of saturday the 20th of october and "do" MDRF during that time.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: M.Ted
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 02:56 PM

"The Yellow Rose of Texas" will fit--

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From:
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 03:11 PM

The yellow rose of Texas will fit anything - we have a TV program here in the UK which uses the tune as the basis for a 'make up a song' contest.

I recently needed a tune for a Starwars project destroys civilisation song and it just had to be the YRoT. The chorus is;

It's all due to Starwars that I sing this song No sooner was it switched on, the ruddy thing went wrong It blew up all the satelites it shot down every plane If it was metal and was moving it thought it was fair game.

Artistic licence - I used the laser version to reduce the planet to horse power and sailing ships.

Anne

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 04:37 PM

How about a few more suggestions here people? It should be something not too common - and preferably a bit older...(if I am reading Lynn correctly here)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: Burke
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 05:00 PM

I'm having a hard time matching the words to the tunes mentioned as well.

But if you can fit it to AG try: Cranbrood aka: On Ilkla Moor Bah T'at. Any tune of the many tunes used with: While Shepherds watched thier flocks.

Do a forum search on Common Meter for other suggestions.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: M.Ted
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 05:18 PM

Alright, MMario, how about "Star of the County Down"? Even though half of all folk songs use that melody, none of them sound like they do--

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: SharonA
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 05:25 PM

I'm with Burke: I can't make any of the tunes mentioned (that I know) work with the words that I know. I can't make it work in common meter at all. I'm wondering if I've misremembered the lyrics.

Would someone please post the entire lyrics to the song? (Yes, I looked in the DigiTrad first!) Thanks!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: Burke
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 05:51 PM

Here are a couple of threads devoted to this song, including lyrics:

Click here
And here

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: GUEST,LynnC
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 07:45 PM

Correct again Mmario. I need a somewhat older piece (no sitcom songs, Texas tunes, or other more recognizably modern music). Does not have to be totally unrecognizable though. Something in a major key would be good. I am thinking that "Ilkla moor bar t'at" would make Craig spit up bits of lung if I mucked with the lyrics.

Beverly Hillbillies is the correct meter for the song in Q, but BH's music simply will not do, and some of the band is balking at "Do your ears...?".

You can make the lyrics to the BH's fit "Do your ears hang low" quite easily. As for the other tunes mentioned, you just have to sing the lyrics fast, but they fit.

So, you're coming to MD, Mmario??? Kewl! Come see me, we'll have to go do Wine Garden again!

L

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 08:59 PM

I've always heard it sung to a a really well-known tune that sounds sort of Turkish/Persian, but I can't remember its name. Here it is in ABC

X: 181
T:Do You Balls Hang Low
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:Em
EF|
G2F2 E2EF|GBFG E2GA|BBBc BAFG|AAAB AGEF|
G2F2 E2EF|GBFG E2GA|BBBc BAGF|E2||

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: Genie
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 02:36 AM

Have you tried "76 Trombones"?

I think "Billy Boy" might work, too.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 06:50 AM

Snuffy, I can't read ABC, but is that the tune we learned in elementary school to "All the girls in France/Do the hootchie-kootchie dance"?

Lynn, I'm not sure if this would fit, but if you want to try something in 3/4, how about Dancing at Whitsun? There's a MIDI in the DT file; it says the tune is The False Bride, which I don't know as such.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: MMario
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 08:45 AM

refreshing for more suggestions.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 01:37 PM

I want to point something out, and that is, even with a very familiar melody, when there are new words attached, with new meanings and new phrasings, most people will not recognize the melody--Even people singing a song will often not make the association-- Iif a few small changes are made in the melody, such changing the scale step that a certain phrase begins on, or changing a motion, or even a simple change in tempo and feeling, when the similiarity is pointed out, listeners will be surprised--Don't believe me? Compare and contrast "Greensleeves" and "The House of the Rising Sun"!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need a song that matches the metre
From: MMario
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 01:47 PM

!!! - I'm flabbergasted!

But in this case, as Lynn points out - her band members don't want to use the lyrics she has with the tune she was gonna use - which is "Do your "ears" hang low...[IMHO* a good choice not to use it if they are gonna sing it where I think they are gonna sing it][* as if my opinion matters! *grin*] which is why she is looking for something with the same meter to see if they can settle on something mutually satisfactory. [If I have understood the situation correctly]

Lynn - you sure Inkla Moor is out? the spitting up bits of lungs sounds interesting. But could he sustain that for multiple performances?

*gd&rvf*