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Lyr Req: No More Auction Block

Steve Latimer 25 Aug 01 - 10:10 PM
GUEST,marymarymary 25 Aug 01 - 10:15 PM
Steve Latimer 25 Aug 01 - 10:18 PM
Pene Azul 25 Aug 01 - 10:23 PM
wysiwyg 25 Aug 01 - 10:51 PM
masato sakurai 25 Aug 01 - 11:24 PM
raredance 25 Aug 01 - 11:44 PM
wysiwyg 26 Aug 01 - 12:15 AM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 26 Aug 01 - 08:05 PM
wysiwyg 03 Sep 01 - 03:57 PM
masato sakurai 04 Sep 01 - 12:26 PM
GUEST,W y s i w y G ! (19 Feb 2015) 21 Feb 15 - 03:32 PM
GUEST,Dave Hanson 19 Feb 2015 21 Feb 15 - 03:34 PM
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Subject: No More Auction Block
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:10 PM

I have only recently heard this wonderful song. Although it is sung by one of my favourite singers, I have a tough time with a couple of the verses. I checked the DT and bobdylan.com, but the lyrics aren't there.

Can anyone help?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: GUEST,marymarymary
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:15 PM

The lyrics are online here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:18 PM

Guest marymarymary.

Thank you. Wow, answer in five minutes.


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Subject: ADD: No More Auction Block
From: Pene Azul
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:23 PM

Thanks marymarymary. I'll post 'em:

NO MORE AUCTION BLOCK
(Traditional)
(by the courtesy of Mr. Luis Blanco)

No more auction block for me
No more, no more
No more auction block for me
Many thousands gone

No more driver's lash for me
No more, no more
No more driver's lash for me
Many thousands gone

No more whip lash for me
No more, no more
No more pint of salt for me
Many thousands gone

No more auction block for me
No more, no more
No more auction block for me
Many thousands gone


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:51 PM

Thanks, Jeff.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 11:24 PM

This spiritual was, I'm sure, first recorded with music in Allen et al., Slave Songs of the United States (1867) as "Many Thousand Gone". The whole book is now online here in Documenting the American South. The lyrics in this book (p. 48) are:

No more peck o' corn for me,
No more, no more;
No more peck o' corn for me,
Many tousand go.

No more driver's lash for me.

No more pint o' salt for me.

No more hundred lash for me.

No more mistress' call for me.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: raredance
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 11:44 PM

The "peck of corn" and "pint of salt" refer to slaves' rations. I have also heard "no more slavery chains" as a verse.

It's probably been said here before, but Bob Dylan borrowed heavily from one of the tunes for this for his "Blowing In the Wind"

rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 12:15 AM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:05 PM

As I've said, I've only recently heard this song. I have heard the Dylan "BITW' thing before. Other than the the little bridge in HIS version (Don't know if it's in other versions) I don't hear Bob ripping anything off as per the accusations.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the "folk Process" is at work here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 03:57 PM

Appears in the very fine current songbook, Songs of Zion (Verolga Nix). Can be had via Amazon; CLICK HERE and look for the Amazon link to make a purchase that also benefits Mudcat.

According to Songfinder, also appears in these songbooks:

ROLLING ALONG IN SONG
SLAVE SONGS OF THE U. S.
SONGS OF THE CIVIL WAR
FOLK SONGS OF NORTH AMERICA

These also may or may not be available via Amazon.

~Susan


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Subject: Lyr Add: MANY THOUSAND GO
From: masato sakurai
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 12:26 PM

"Many Thousand Go" is also in Thomas Wentworth Higginson's Atlantic Monthly article "Negro Spirituals" (1867, no. 35), which became later a chapter of his book Army Life in a Black Regiment (1869; available now Penguin classics, 1997). The article itself is online at the following websites. The lyrics are similar to those in Slave Songs of the United States, but I'll post them with his comments here on its historic merits.

(1) The Atlantic Online
(2) about.com
(3) Etext Center, University of Virginia
(4) xroads.virginia.edu
(5) David Hart's Library of E-Texts

XXXV. MANY THOUSAND GO.

"No more peck o' corn for me,
No more, no more, --
No more peck o' corn for me,
Many tousand go.

"No more driver's lash for me, (Twice.)
No more, &c.

"No more pint o' salt for me, (Twice.)
No more, &c.

"No more hundred lash for me, (Twice.)
No more, &c.

"No more mistress' call for me,
No more, no more, --
No more mistress' call for me,
Many tousand go."

Even of this last composition, however, we have only the approximate date, and know nothing of the mode of composition. Allan Ramsay says of the Scotch songs, that, no matter who made them, they were soon attributed to the minister of the parish whence they sprang. And I always wondered, about these, whether they had always a conscious and definite origin in some leading mind, or whether they grew by gradual accretion, in an almost unconscious way. On this point I could get no information, though I asked many questions, until at last, one day when I was being rowed across from Beaufort to Ladies' Island, I found myself, with delight, on the actual trail of a song. One of the oarsmen, a brisk young fellow, not a soldier, on being asked for his theory of the matter, dropped out a coy confession. "Some good sperituals," he said, "are start jess out o' curiosity. I been a-raise a sing, myself, once."
My dream was fulfilled, and I had traced out, not the poem alone, but the poet. I implored him to proceed.
"Once we boys," he said, "went for tote some rice, and de nigger-driver, he keep a-callin' on us; and I say, 'O, de ole nigger-driver!' Den anudder said, 'Fust ting my mammy tole me was, notin' so bad as nigger-driver.' Den I made a sing, just puttin' a word, and den anudder word."
Then he began singing, and the men, after listening a moment, joined in the chorus as if it were an old acquaintance, though they evidently had never heard it before. I saw how easily a new "sing" took root among them.

Masato


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Subject: ADD: Many thousand Gone
From: GUEST,W y s i w y G ! (19 Feb 2015)
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 03:32 PM

MANY THOUSAND GONE
Learned from the singing of Odetta, this traditional Negro spiritual's tune is familiar to many because Bob Dylan "borrowed" it for "Blowing in the Wind." This version was written in memory of Black lives lost at the hands of badge-wearers who made split-second, tragic, fatal mistakes. These cost our whole planet's people the lives of the individuals killed-- as well as the generations of people who would have flowed from them in the unfolding of time. As white people, it is most appropriate that we sing about losing not our lives-- because for the most part we're safe-- but the unearned Privilege that allows this.

Lyrics (c) 2015 Susan Oldberg Hinton for The Good News-Goodtime Band.


1. No more precious lives to mourn, no more, no more!
No more precious lives to mourn, many thousand... gone.

2. No more patient waiting, no more, no more!
No more patient waiting, many thousand... gone.

3. No more outraged silence, no more, no more!
No more outraged silence, many thousand... gone.

4. No more holding back for me, no more, no more!
No more holding back for me, many thousand... gone.

5. No more unearned privilege, no more, no more!
No more unearned privilege, many thousand... gone.

6. No more sorrow songs for me, no more, no more!
No more sorrow songs for me, many thousand... gone.

... sung unaccompanied, with each verse modulating up from deepest voice in V. 1, to a near-howl by the end.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: No More Auction Block
From: GUEST,Dave Hanson 19 Feb 2015
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 03:34 PM

Bob Dylan also recorded ' No More Auction Block ' it's on the Bootleg series, and a fine recording it is.

Dave H


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