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Subject: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Morticia Date: 30 Aug 01 - 08:27 AM Steve and I are sick of living here in the cosy environs of the M25.It's expensive, noisy and dirty and we've had enough. We're looking to move to another part of the UK, by the sea if at all possible where housing is cheaper ( say, about 100 thou for property and a little land), and life does not involve sitting on the M25, or the A3. Does anyone have any suggestions? Tell me about where you live. Is it nice? What are the property prices like, roughly?Does it have a folk club? All help very much appreciated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Noreen Date: 30 Aug 01 - 08:44 AM You could get a lovely place round here, Terri for 100k. Not by the sea, but beautiful countryside on the edge of the Pennine moors, and lots of music! I'll send you some estate agents sheets next week after Fylde, as I'm looking at properties myself at the moment (as you know). Hey, how about that commune idea????????? Noreen |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:13 AM Morty, if you find such a place keep it quiet or we'll all be coming to ruin the neighbourhood! Herself and I never regret giving up commuting 15 years ago (quality of life is so much better) though we couldn't afford to move to where we are if we were doing it today, but moved when our previous house in North London had appreciated at a ridiculous rate (they knocked down our very cheaply rented place in South London ten years earlier to build a slum!),and the People's Republic of Bracknell Forest is not near the sea! The trouble with the places that are affordable is usually that there are no jobs to help you afford them! Then again the nice places scenically,especially by the sea, are also expensive unless too remote for all but helicopter owners! I sometimes hanker after the Somerset/Dorset border area if the Lottery comes up trumps but we'd probably stay put but buy one of the obscenely expensive places near here with a pool and room for a Mudgathering instead! But best of luck in your search! RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:22 AM In Hull you could buy 3 or 4 houses for 100 thousand! I's not too far from the sea, there is loads of folk music here, plenty of Catters and it's only half an hours drive from the world famous Jug Inn, Selby.There are 2 folk clubs in Hull, (Cottingham & Beveerley), plenty of sessions & singarounds, and the cost of livinf is very cheap,(we have our own phone company here, speak as long as you like for 5p, ADSL permanant internet acsess for 15 pound a month).Here is a local estate agent, put 100,000 in the search box thing and it shows you houses up to that price, www.beercockwiles.co.uk . |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: katlaughing Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:53 AM SOunds like a very wise decision, Mortee. Good for you and Steve and Good luck on finding the best place! luvyakat |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Mudcatter Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:20 AM Morticia, I'd like to help, but can you give us a few more specifics? The UK coastline is fairly long (despite what Americans might think *grin*) There's a heap of difference between Southend and the Orkneys so a bit more detail on what you're after would make it easier. Do you need to find work in the new place? Do you need a cable modem? Do you mind being cold and lonely? etc etc |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Skipjack K8 Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:20 AM Priddy, 1000 feet elevation, on top of the Mendip hills in Somerset. Heaven. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Mountain Dog Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:34 AM Dear Morticia We have several friends who have fairly recently abandoned the overcrowded east for Cornwall's Lizard peninsula. Like any place desireable the world over, it's growing more popular, but there are still some wonderful places to be had, some quite reasonably if you're handy with DIY and elbow grease. There is folk music to be found if you poke around and one of Cornwall's greatest attractions is that no part of it is very far from the sea. My wife and I are quite partial to that magical part of the world and hope someday to divide our time between Cornwall and the States. PM me if you'd like the name of a good estate agent or two in the Lizard area or other parts of SW Cornwall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Louisa on another computer Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:36 AM Hiya Come to Coventry! It's lovely! Louisa |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:51 AM Louisa...but the tide goes out a long way from the Cathedral! Best thing about Coventry, apart from the road to Birmingham! (Sorry, Ma-in-Law, didn't mean it). RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Morticia Date: 30 Aug 01 - 11:04 AM Since I asked, I've been paddling about the internet a bit and narrowed the search down a little.(I have several social work qualifications, and other bits and pieces so should be able to get work without too many probs, anywhere). Anyway, I think I'm looking at Cornwall, Devon, the soggy bits of Somerset,Rye,Hastings,Isle of Wight,Dorset,Wales or else somewhere really rural like Glos or Salop....haven't helped much, have I?Anyone know where I can find types of properties rather than search by location? Mountain Dog, I'd love those estate agents names if you have them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Jez Date: 30 Aug 01 - 11:21 AM Morticia, Here is a few for you in SW England... http://www.kavanaghs.co.uk/residential.html http://www.accommodation.com/sales_frame.htm Happy hunting... Jez |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Mudcatter Date: 30 Aug 01 - 11:26 AM hmmm, So 'anywhere in the UK' translates as south of Bristol? Fair enough... Leaves more of the nice places for the rest of us * wry grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Shields Folk Date: 30 Aug 01 - 12:31 PM Take a look at the Northumberland coast. But don't tell everybody, we're trying to keep it a secret. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Eric the Viking Date: 30 Aug 01 - 01:22 PM Yorkshire! After being brought up in London. Living here for the last 30 years, I wouldn't go many other places to live. I love Cornwall and have friends in St keverne, but it's remote when you need something. Yorkshire a £100.000 house could be a palace, or somewhere modest depending on where you buy. Oh well! |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: katlaughing Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:17 PM Mortee, I've never had so much fun dreaming as when I looked over the properties on this page:http://www.property.org.uk/unique/index.html. There are castles, pubs, houseboats, RR stations, etc. all very unique and by US standards, some are very reasonable. If you just go to the home page, there is more to look at, too: http://www.property.org.uk This is exciting. Have fun! luvyakat |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: katlaughing Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:30 PM Well...SOME are reasonable. I hadn't looked at it in awhile! But be sure to look at all of the categories, as I did see some pretty interesting ones in your price range. Now I want to move there, too!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,JTT Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:49 PM I'm told Hastings is cheap and gorgeous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:03 PM Hastings has the advantage of a thriving folk/music scene, it's close enough to us that you don't get abandoned and we can stay with you for Mayday!! Dorset is also very nice, there's a folk club in Weymouth and other types of music too. It's by the sea, I know how to get there and it's got some great amenities. And a crazy golf course. Oh, and the prison ship in the harbour..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Mudcatter Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:20 PM and I thought you weren't allowed to make music in Weymouth... |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Kernow John Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:36 PM Morticia pm me your address if you want me to forward some local newspapers from the Lizard in Cornwall. Be happy to oblige. KJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Morticia Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:44 PM I'm not being slighting to the North of England, married to a Yorkshireman, I wouldn't dare! However,all my family and friends are in the South, I wouldn't want to go too far from them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Llanfair Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:02 PM Morticia, you could get a house with land here for 100K, or on the Cambrian coast. I wouldn't recommend working for the Social services department, though!!! a LOT of people retire to Wales, so much of the resources are channelled towards the elderly. I lasted 4 years as a Social Worker!!! It's taken another 2 to recover. Downsizing is the way forward, though. Life is far too short to be stuck in the rat-race. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: vindelis Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:29 PM Couple of points: 1.There WAS a Folk Club in Weymouth. It closed years ago, (suffered from 'singing to the chairs' syndron). 2. It's Portland that has the Music lisence problem. Otherwise the houses around the Weymouth/Portland area are definitely getting expensive £70,000 and rising. Portland is a lovely place to live - just remember that despite all the defence schemes Chiswell is very definitely a flood risk area, so either keep your flood board in a good state of repair, just in case; or live higher up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:40 PM alternatively, move to the north - half the price, twice the beauty (but don't tell everyone) |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Matthew Edwards Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:52 PM Morticia, if I'd known you were another social worker I would have leaned on your shoulder and told you more horror stories from my own experience! Seriously though, why not East Anglia? Suffolk and Norfolk both have wonderful towns and villages where you can sometimes come across great old singers and musicians. Sometimes I dream about retiring to Southwold (home of Adnams Ales) and near to several villages of great renown for traditional music. Unfortunately the landscape is extremely flat, which is OK for cyclists but not much good if you enjoy hills. Good luck, whatever you decide to do!
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: AliUK Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:56 PM Forget England. For a hundred thou, you could by a mini-mansion out here and live right next to the beach. My apartment's got 4 beds ( one suite) and I live right across the road from one of the most beautiful beaches in Brazil. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:57 AM Dorset also has at least 4 breweries...... One of which makes Tanglefoot. Shall I go on?? LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 31 Aug 01 - 06:43 AM Morty, doesn't look as if you'll be alone: This from today's Evening Stggers: Londoners leave city in droves
by Danielle Gusmaroli and Jo Revill High house prices and a declining quality of life forced 230,000 residents out of the capital in the last 12 months, according to figures released by the Office for National Statistics. Meanwhile, 163,000 moved to London, mostly from the West Midlands, in search of jobs. Overall, though, the population of London continues to grow, swelled by foreign immigration and a high birth rate, especially among the growing ethnic community. Tower Hamlets was among the most deprived London borough which saw the biggest exodus. Around 148,000 saw the East of England as a better place to live and set up home there last year, while the South-East saw 230,000 new arrivals and 212,000 departures. The South-West was also viewed as a desirable place to live. Increasingly, London residents are finding soaring crime rates, congestion and the cost of living intolerable. And most who left last year were families looking for a better quality of life. The trend has been fuelled by rising property prices in the capital which is encouraging people to cash in and buy cheaper homes in the provinces. In the three months to March, prices in Greater London rose to 81 per cent above the national average, with the average price of property now at £158,000. The Evening Standard ran a series of campaigns highlighting the problems faced by new teachers, doctors and nurses, who cannot afford to set up home in London. Professor of population geography at Newcastle University, Tony Champion, said the changing face of the capital's population is due mostly to people coming in from overseas, with an estimated 50,000 foreign settlers arriving into the country each year. He said: "We now have the highest recorded net immigration to this country ever. And more of it is going to London." Last year's population was 7.1 million, almost 500,000 more than 20 years ago - but below the peak of 8.3 million in 1951. If current trends continue London's population is predicted to hit the 7.3 million in three years. Meanwhile, there was more economic bad news for Chancellor Gordon Brown's plans for record investment in public services as new evidence came of growing pessimism among the public over the economy. A new Mori poll carried out for The Times, which measures how people expect the economy to perform over the next 12 months, has dropped to minus 31, a 16-point fall since the end of July and its lowest level for three years. Recession fears were further fuelled after the European Central Bank (ECB) cut interest rates by a quarter point to 4.25 per cent. ECB president Wim Duisenberg has warned that the outlook for economic growth in Europe was worse than expected. Jane Padgham writes: Almost 150,000 London jobs will be lost by the end of next year as the sharp downturn in the City, media and advertising hit the capital's expansion, a new report says. The respected think-tank, the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), says slower growth will trigger a wave of redundancies throughout London. The shake-out will come as growth in London's economy lags the national average for the first time since the early-Nineties recession. (c)Evening Standard RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: running.hare Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:57 PM how much land do you mean by "a little"? How many bedrooms aprox are you hoping for? whould you like to bee in / on the edge of a village, in / on the edge of a town or in the middle of no-where? Dorset is Georgiouse, & the are folk clubs dotted around the countie.
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Morticia Date: 31 Aug 01 - 04:56 PM I'd like just enough land to grow some vegetables and just maybe, a small orchard.I am thinking very hard about leaving social services and going into business for myself.The hard lessons of the last few months have shown me that life is indeed too short and I am not doing anyone any favours by hanging on in there when all hope and enthusiasm has gone.( That includes living here...thanks Roger, you confirmed I'm not mad or alone :) I know the North of England is beautiful and inexpensive BUT it would be a long way from my family and Steve's.I would prefer not to be more than a couple of hours from my parent's and daughter,( Wiltshire and Berkshire) so have pulled my net in a little. |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Deni Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:28 PM Hiya Might I put a tentative word in for Devon & Cornwall. All that sand, sea, rocks and antiquity. We saw saw lovely dwellings in Cornwall with land for 120 thousand but unfortuantely weren't ready to move. Couldn't bear to leave the Hyde folk club, actually. Still, there are bargains to be had,and you can't fault the sea air and heavenly moor. I've also heard Wales is relatively affordable. Let's hear it for Wales! Cheers deni |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: GUEST,Challis Date: 31 Aug 01 - 07:40 PM I reckon if you looked hard you'd probably find something-ish along the lines you want in between Worthing and Littlehampton. Seaside, harbours 2 hours to Wiltshire, still on a direct link to London/Croydon and a starting-to-burgeon folk scene + plus most sunshine in the UK (which isn't saying much compared to Rio, but a start!!) Happy hunting, Hille |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: selby Date: 01 Sep 01 - 08:23 AM York on the train is 2hours from London come north it's the best place to be Keith |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Jez Date: 03 Sep 01 - 10:11 AM Bit of a drastic step just because you don't like the new landlord at your local! |
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Subject: RE: BS: U.K 'Catters help needed! From: Noreen Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:39 PM Welcome, Jez! xx Terri, there's ever so many properties on the market in Fleetwood.... lots of music and lovely people (I somehow got involved in a lock-in there last night, so I may be biased...*grin*) and those refreshing sea breezes.. |