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Lyr Add: Hammering

wysiwyg 04 Sep 01 - 09:11 AM
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Subject: ADD: Hammering
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:11 AM

This is a call-response form spiritual, which can also be performed solo or unison. The melody is quite dramatic and disturbing.
~S~



HAMMERING
Traditional Spiritual

CHO:
LEADER: Those cruel people!
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: Those cruel people!
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: Those cruel people!
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: Those cruel people!
PEOPLE: Hammering!

VERSES:

LEADER: They crucified my Lord
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They crucified my Lord
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They crucified my Lord
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They crucified my Lord
PEOPLE: Hammering!

LEADER: They nailed him to the tree
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They nailed him to the tree
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They nailed him to the tree
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: They nailed him to the tree
PEOPLE: Hammering!

LEADER: You hear the hammers ringing
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: You hear the hammers ringing
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: You hear the hammers ringing
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: You hear the hammers ringing
PEOPLE: Hammering!

LEADER: The blood came trickling down
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: The blood came trickling down
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: The blood came trickling down
PEOPLE: Hammering!
LEADER: The blood came trickling down
PEOPLE: Hammering!


SOURCE:
American Negro Songs, 230 Folk Songs and Spirituals, Religious and Secular. John W. Work, Dover Publications, Mineola,
NY 1998. Orig. pub. Crown Publishers, NY, 1940. ISBN 0-486-40271-1.

Also appears in songbook FAITH, FOLK, AND CLARITY.
SH
E-mailing tune to Joe Offer for inclusion in Mudcat MIDI pages (see QUICKLINKS).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:20 AM

Sorry about the bold face. Still working out the new 'puder's template.

~S~


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Subject: Add: Lyr: Hammering Judgement
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 11:56 AM

HAMMERING jUDGEMENT

Don't you hear God talking, hammering, etc.
He's talking to Moses hammering etc.
He's talking through thunder hammering,
Hammering jusgment hammering, etc.
Hammer keep a ringing hammering, etc.
Good tol' Moses hammering, etc.
Go down in Egyp', hammering, etc.
To tell pl' Pharoah, hammering, etc.
To loose his people, hammering, etc.
P;' Pharaoh had a hard heart, hammering, etc.
An' would not loose dem, hammering, etc".

-snip-

Source: Maud Cuney-Hare, " Negro Musicians and Their Music" {Washington, D.C., The Associated Publishers, Inc., 1936; p. 78}

Prior to giving these lyrics, the author wrote:
"A fine example of the type of religious hymn tht was evolved into a labor song, is one found in Calhoun's "Plantation SOngs" under the title "Hammering Judgement".
-snip-

Cuney-Hare goes on to write "The imitative ehaculations of "wham", "whum", "boum", "bam" , "hunk", and 'huh
are familiar descriptions given the songs of the laborers and workers on the railroads and roadways".
-snip-

I'm assuming that at least one of those 'ejaculations' was sounded at the end of the lines where Cuney-Hare wrote "'etc".

**

"hammering judgment" =hammer out judgement {forcefully, or with power judge, or give judgement to}

**

Here's a Biography of Maud Cuney-Hare

And here's an excerpt from that biography: CUNEY-HARE, MAUD (1874-1936). Maud Cuney-Hare, black musician and writer, was born in Galveston on February 16, 1874, to Adelina (Dowdy) and Norris Wright Cuney.qv After graduating from Central High School in Galveston in 1890, she studied piano at the New England Conservatory of Music, where she successfully resisted the pressure that white students exerted on the school's administrators to have her barred from living in the dormitory. She also studied privately with biographer Emil Ludwig and Edwin Klare. She taught music at the Texas Deaf, Dumb, and Blind Institute for Colored Youths in 1897 and 1898; at the settlement program of the Institutional Church of Chicago during 1900 and 1901; and at Prairie View State College (now Prairie View A&M University), Texas, in 1903 and 1904.

As a folklorist and music historian she was especially interested in African and early American music. She collected songs in Mexico, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and Cuba, and was the first music scholar to direct public attention to Creole music. She contributed to Musical Quarterly, Musical Observer, Musical America, and Christian Science Monitor and for years edited a column on music and the arts for The Crisis, the journal of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People."...

-snip-

Admittedly off topic:
The surname "Cuney-Hare" can be interpreted to mean "rabbit rabbit" as "cuney" is Dutch for 'rabbit'. See this excerpt from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island

"The Name
The Native American inhabitants of the area called the island Narrioch, "land without shadows", because, as did other south shore Long Island beaches, its compass orientation keeps the beach area in sunlight all day.

The Dutch name for the island was Conyne Eylandt [1], or Konijn Eiland (Rabbit Island) using modern Dutch spelling. This name is found on the New Netherland map of 1639 by Johannes Vingboon. (New York State and New York City were originally Dutch Settlements, referred to as New Netherland and New Amsterdam respectively.). As with other Long Island barrier islands, Coney Island was virtually overrun with rabbits, and rabbit hunting was common until the resorts were developed and most open space eliminated."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 12:35 PM

Is the response like this:
    hammer-RING!
with it sounding like two words with the accent on the RING?
If so, I guess I've never imagined it as one word, "hammering." I always imagined ringing hammers - like in Hammer Ring.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:41 PM

I'm not sure how it sounds. I just transcribed the words exactly as the author had written them, except for my typos.

Correction.Hammering jusgment hammering, etc. [jusgment=judgement]

That said, I can imagine that some workers could have sang "Hammer Ring!" with the ring part being when they would hit their hammers down all together. But I still think that hammering judgement comes from the folk phrase "hammer out justice". Note I said that I think. I don't know. If that is so, then Hammer Ring! would have been a later develpment than "hammering".


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Subject: ADD: If I Had a Hammer (Pete Seeger/Lee Hays)
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:51 PM

I suppose that its become automatic to think of this "If I Had A Hammer song" when you think of hammering folk songs.

I also suppose that the words have been posted somewhere on Mudcat before, but I think they also want to be posted on this thread. So here goes:

IF I HAD A HAMMER (The Hammer Song)
words and music by Lee Hays and Pete Seeger

If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning
I'd hammer in the evening
All over this land
I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warning
I'd hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

If I had a bell
I'd ring it in the morning
I'd ring it in the evening
All over this land
I'd ring out danger
I'd ring out a warning
I'd ring out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

If I had a song
I'd sing it in the morning
I'd sing it in the evening
All over this land
I'd sing out danger
I'd sing out a warning
I'd sing out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

Well I've got a hammer
And I've got a bell
And I've got a song to sing
All over this land
It's the hammer of justice
It's the bell of freedom
It's the song about love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

©1958, 1962 (renewed), 1986 (renewed)
TRO-Ludlow Music, Inc. (BMI)
http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/hammer-song.shtml

-snip-

Does anyone know how this song came to be written? That is, has Pete Seeger ever mention that he was inspired by any hammering spiritual?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:42 PM

I've never heard the version Azizi posted-- would love to-- but on the one I posted, yes there is an accent on RING. Almost so strong as to make it two words, although the book I tanscribed the lyrics from has it as one.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 04:00 PM

Note that "Cuney-Hare goes on to write "The imitative ejaculations of "wham", "whum", "boum", "bam" , "hunk", and 'huh
are familiar descriptions given the songs of the laborers and workers on the railroads and roadways".
-snip-


And I wrote that "I'm assuming that at least one of those 'ejaculations' was sounded at the end of the lines where Cuney-Hare wrote "'etc"."

If that were so, would there still be an emphasis on the "ring" sound of the word "hammering?

For instance, would it be more likely that a sentence would be sung:
"He's talking through thunder hammer RING, BOOM!"

or

"He's talkin' through thunder hammerin', BOOM!"

It seems more likely to me that that line would be sung the 2nd way, given Cuney-Hare's mention of the 'ejaculations' {And are these called 'exclamations' now?}

And btw, I'm sure Maud Cuney-Ware would have loved to have lived today so she could have documented the words and the sounds with a video recorder or DVD or whatever. But unfortunately, she died in 1936, the same year that this book was published.

Regrettably, no musical notes are given with these songs. So, unless we use other source material, we probably will never know the answer to how some of these songs sounded.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Hammering
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 05:03 PM

I think, from other recordings I've hgard, and from my own singing practice, that the answer to that question would depend on what exactly the singer at any given time wanted to emphasize.

A wonderful thing about spirituals, in original times and in our own time, is that they can deliver so much, so elegantly-- and that they can be used to flexibly.

Massa riding by? Give a little extra punch HERE to let your brothers on the line know what you're feeling-- build solidarity.

Friend from another plantation passing by? Give a little extra punch THERE to let him know you're greeting him.

~Susan


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