Subject: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 09:53 PM My choice? Calvin & Hobbes. A truly extraordinary comic which has had a lasting effect on the industry in general. - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: AliUK Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:00 PM Calvin and Hobbes. I got all the collected books and always get them down when I'm feeling sad. The other comic strips I loved were the Berke Brethed one, Bloom County etc. But that's a comic STRIP. Comic books ( as an ex-collecter) I think that the createts comicbook of all time is...jeez there are so many. I go for writers myself and anything by my mate Alan Moore is OK with me ( except Tom Strong and I've already upset him by telling him I didn't like it). And The Sandman of course. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:05 PM Yeah, comic STRIPS is what I was referring to...and I don't know how the thread got labelled "Help:" at the beginning. I liked Bloom County too, it was great, although it got a little too obscure toward the end, I thought...or too conscious of itself as an icon or something. - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Biskit Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:08 PM Phineas, Fat Freddy, Freewheelin' Franklin, an' Fat Freddys Cat, "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers" PEACE ~Biskit~ |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:14 PM there IS no "one" best...but if you are old enough, Pogo will get a LOT of votes. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:15 PM In which "Fat Freddy's Cat" was the piece de resistance. I knew people in the early 70's who were dead ringers for those guys, both physically and mentally speaking. - lH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:16 PM Pogo was unquestionably a brilliant comic strip. - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Troll Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:16 PM Pogo. Hands (or paws) down. troll |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Paul from Hull Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:18 PM "Don't mean shit".......*G* |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:20 PM What do you mean, Paul? - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Clinton Hammond Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:24 PM I'm a fan of C&H as well, and I have great respect for Bill giving up while it was still good and not Far Siding it to death... Redmeat.com is really funny as well... Of all time??? I'll let ya know when time is done... ;-) |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Paul from Hull Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:30 PM Sorry Little Hawk! It was in reference to another Robert Crumb Comic, (like the Freaks, & Fat Freddys Cat)..."Mister Natural"....*G* |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:33 PM WONDER WOMAN----my very first crush. What a babe. And that see-through airplane... Next would come Little Lulu. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Paul from Hull Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:34 PM ..Having said that.I dont claim its the best..... I'd have to give some thought to what would be my fave... & it might need some explanation & 'referencing' anyhow.... |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Oct 01 - 10:37 PM Hey, yeah! Little Lulu was absolutely great, with a very offbeat and clever sense of humor, and enduring characters. - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: DonMeixner Date: 13 Oct 01 - 11:22 PM For me, any Jack Kirby comic was great, Fantastic Four, Sargent Fury, The Fourth World... and of the new breed, AIRBOY, and Xenozoic Tales by Mark Schultz. Don Meixner |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: 53 Date: 13 Oct 01 - 11:25 PM blondie. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Oct 01 - 11:51 PM Pogo..............Walt Kelly Doonesbury........Gary Trudeau Bloom County......Berke Breathed Cheech Wizard.....Vaughn Bode Shoe..............Chris Cassatt and Gary Brookins The Far Side......Gary Larson Outland...........Berke Breathed Gasoline Alley....Perry & King to Moores to Scancarelli Peanuts...........Charles Schulz Calvin & Hobbes...Bill Watterson Spaw |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Steve Latimer Date: 14 Oct 01 - 12:00 AM The Far Side, hands down. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: musicmick Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:05 AM I am, alas, old enough to have experienced POGO in the newspapers and in every damn POGO book I could get my hands on. I dont know if POGO would have a sizeable audience nowadays. We have become used to a punchline, punchline, punchline diet. The gentle pace of a POGO seqence semms out of place today (Once Kelly took three weeks to build to a punchline that was a pun on an old Scottish ballad. It was hilarious). |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Harry Basnett Date: 14 Oct 01 - 06:19 AM The Jack Kirby and Stan Lee collaborations were terrific but for sheer atmosphere the Steve Ditko illustrations on the early Spiderman and Dr. Strange were unbeatable.>br< Harry. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Harry Basnett Date: 14 Oct 01 - 06:22 AM Oops on the line break! |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: SeanM Date: 14 Oct 01 - 06:42 AM Pogo - for breaking the ground so thoroughly plowed since, but with a style noone's come close to matching (We have met the enemy...). Doonesbury, for making politics and some ugly situations a laughing matter, and letting us adapt and adjust while we're laughing (current run on the WTC is great). Bloom County - just because. Calvin and Hobbes, because EVERYONE needs a Transmogrifier!. For Better or Worse - because it's life; the characters age, fall in love, deal with life - and death - and it's funny, because life sometimes is. Far Side, because there's just not enough surrealism around here, and EVERYONE I know has at least one of those that they consider "theirs" (Mine is the cows standing around talking in a field - one yells "CAR!", and they go back to grazing. Car passes, and they go back to talking). Bizarro, for keeping that torch that Gary Larson started. Zits, because damned if my life in High School wasn't JUST like that in so many ways. Sherman's Lagoon because... well, because it's just damned funny and I like the characters. I can't pick a best. They're ALL the best. Just best at different things. M |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Devilmaster Date: 14 Oct 01 - 07:41 AM Wow.... the best of all time. Thats tough cause I've seen some strips that are considered some of the greatest by other cartoonists.
I will agree with everyone else, Calvin and Hobbes is right up there, and is one of my favorites, but I will add a couple of others.
Sam's Strip - Ran for a short time at the start of the sixties by Jerry Dumas and Mort Walker. A spoof of the comics. Great inside gags. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: GUEST,Moleskin Joe Date: 14 Oct 01 - 08:18 AM Does anyone remember 4D Jones in the Daily Express? |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: mooman Date: 14 Oct 01 - 08:20 AM Without a doubt..."If" by Steve Bell. Perhaps though not so well known by our US colleagues. mooman |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: DonMeixner Date: 14 Oct 01 - 08:31 AM Comiic Strips being different from Comic Books. Gasoline Alley, For Better or For Worse, Calvin and Hobbes, Flash Gordon, Prince Valiant (Hal Foster) Rip Kirby. Yes Harry, Steve Ditko had a style in those old Marvels. I liked his anthology stuff best in Tales To Astonish and Tales of Suspense. Ditko's Charlton stuff like Space Wars was also a favorite. But good as he is and was, he never could quite beat Jack Kirby's monsters in those books. Of course thats opinion and thats what makes a horse race. Don |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: RangerSteve Date: 14 Oct 01 - 08:58 AM Repeating some earlier favorites, Calvin & Hobbes, Pogo, Little Lulu. Aren't there any Dilbert fans out there? And, while not particularly funny, Rose is Rose has some of the best Sunday color artwork of any comic strip around. Over the Hedge is also a favorite of mine. Krazy Kat has always intrigued me. Early Popeye strips are great. I miss Mandrake and the Phantom. Nancy was a great strip when I was a kid, it's been watered down quite a bit. I strongly recommend two books put out by the Smithsonian: the book of comic strips, and the book of comic books. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Allan C. Date: 14 Oct 01 - 09:24 AM I was an avid Li'l Abner fan. One strip in particular has always stayed with me: They were making a batch of Kickapoo Joy Juice and decided to add a dead horse "for body". I am a little surprised to see no mention of B.C.. One of my favorites from that strip was when one of the bearded characters accidentally got too close to a flaming torch. In the next frame, he peers at his reflection in a pool of water and exclaims, "I've invented shaving!" On the other side of the coin, I will never understand the popularity of Andy Capp. I am musing upon the possible connection to music here. Does anyone know any songs (other than "Alley Oop") that were made about some of the characters from these strips? |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Fibula Mattock Date: 14 Oct 01 - 09:27 AM Dilbert. Definitely. So true to life it scares me sometimes. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 01 - 11:08 AM Side Note for Allan C.: "Alley Oop" by the Hollywood Argyles-----Had the distinction of being one of only three songs where a group's (or individual's) first release went to #1 and then the group NEVER AGAIN had a song crack the top 100. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM Lobby Dosser---------Asterix the Gaul-------The Perishers Illustrated comic-- The Silver Surfer. Aint it sad to be old!! Jock |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: sophocleese Date: 14 Oct 01 - 12:28 PM Asterix, Yikes I love Asterix! Dilbert I have a book of Charles Addams cartoons that I love. The Far Side Giles, where would life be without Grandma? |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Peter T. Date: 14 Oct 01 - 12:34 PM The best drawn comic books were the 60's Marvels, especially the younger artists just after Steve Ditko (great imagination, but he never really learned how to draw a convex face!) (just joking, I loved them) and Kirby. Some of the Iron Man and Daredevils (Cannot remember the artist's names to save my soul) were exquisite conceptions, true works of art and narrative. I confess to being a fan of the early Mad magazine comic parodies, Wood and the others. Krazy Kat. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:02 PM Terry and the pirates. seriously, Mad magazine, the Far Side and the Wizard of Id. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:14 PM Hmmmmm...good stuff, but why has no one mentioned Mary Worth yet? :-) - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:24 PM Mary is peeping into the lives of the girls from Apartment 3-G and they all be doin' nasty stuff with the Katzenjammer Kids, not to mention the weirdness they're into with Hi and Lois. Mary is passing everything on to Brenda Starr, reporter, and I'm sure you'll be reading about it soon. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Ditchdweller Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:32 PM Got to be The Broons and Oor Willie from the Sunday Post!! |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Gareth Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:37 PM Dan Dare - anyone ?? Gareth |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Oct 01 - 01:44 PM Wasn't Brenda Starr in love with some guy named Basil? - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Oct 01 - 02:04 PM Yeah Hawk, I think it was Basil Parsley but he got hotter than a pepper over some Italian broad, a real tomato, named Rosemary Fennelli and they ran off to the Marinara Islands together. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Oct 01 - 02:09 PM Spaw, we've had enough of your slatternly disquisitions. Go to the thread entitled "Did you REALLY mean to say that?" - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Morticia Date: 14 Oct 01 - 04:37 PM The Perishers,The Far Side and Wizard of Id |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: robomatic Date: 14 Oct 01 - 05:02 PM BC before Johnny Hart got 'bored again'. Particularly the one where BC grows a small moustache and the cute chick and the fat broad make fun of him. He looks into the water and says "Fragly Scarlid, I dode give a dab"! Also the one where one of the guys on an elevated slab is preaching fire and brimstone about how evildoers will be smitten by the Lord, and one of the onlookers says to the other "Why don't we tip loudmouth off his perch and risk a smite?" If only Johnny would read his own stuff nowadays! Classic L'il Abner was saucy, irrespectful and the babes were bodacious. He got kinda bitter in his later days. of the current batch, Rose is Rose cares for the magic of the current moment, and For Better or For Worse the humour of daily life. The artistry of 'Mutts' is worth mention although the subject matter is drifty. Do single panels count? Ziggy, Life in Hell, Ernie Pook's Comique Oops. Gotta go to Boston |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: kendall Date: 14 Oct 01 - 05:15 PM I also liked Mother Goose and Grimm. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Oct 01 - 07:14 PM I note that Mother Goose and Grimm has adopted the standard Calvin & Hobbes fantasy routine. e.g. - Grimm imagines he's a prehistoric timber wolf or a giant pterodactyl or whatever, and the scene alters accordinly, then switches back to normal reality. In fact, numerous comic strips have picked up this device from Watterson, who was the absolute master of it. - LH |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: DonMeixner Date: 14 Oct 01 - 11:38 PM After Wallace Wood left Daredevil and Don Heck left Ironman Gene Colan AKA Adam Austin took over both those Marvel books. Gene Colan created some incredible pages for marvel. Still alive now he has done some great pages for DarkHorse Comics. Wallace Wood may have been the best of the bunch. His inks on Jack Kirbys pencils are legendary stuff. Don |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: 53 Date: 14 Oct 01 - 11:49 PM bob hope. |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: musicmick Date: 14 Oct 01 - 11:50 PM First, in reply, ther have been popular songs written about comic strips. Back in the early days of radio, there was a hit song caled "Barney Google (with the goo-goo-googly eyes)". Does anyone remember the Up Front series fron World War II It was done by the great political cartoonist, Bill Mauldin. It won the Pulitzer Prize as the best book back in the mid 1940s. If you've never seen it, check it out from the library. It tells whhat war is really like. Mike Miller |
Subject: RE: Help: Pick the Greatest Comic of All Time From: Bert Date: 14 Oct 01 - 11:55 PM I miss a lot of the English ones such as Hayseeds. And the cartoonists Thelwell and Bill Tidy. And does anyone remember Vicky? Over here I like "Hagar the Horrible" and "Frank and Ernest" |
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