HTML test thread 1 - please ignore

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 19 May 02 - 03:18 PM

Thanks, Mud Guard,

Now one more time:
favorite folk songs

• KUMBAYA
  
• I DREAMED I SA JOE HILL
  
• FREIGHT TRAIN
  
• AND SO ON....

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 19 May 02 - 02:10 PM

You didn't close the u, you opened a second one ;-)

Btw, underlined text on HTML pages should be used with great care as most people associate hyperlinks with underlined text on a web page.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 19 May 02 - 01:30 PM

Darn, I closed the BOLD and the UNDERLINE command incorrectly. I like those little circles, though.

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 19 May 02 - 01:28 PM

FAVORITE FOLK SONGS

• MICHAEL ROW THE BOAT ASHORE
  
• KUMBAYA
  
• IF I HAD A HAMMER
  
• ETC...

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 10 May 02 - 08:59 AM

Somebody pass the smelling salts... it worked!

W

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 10 May 02 - 08:58 AM

OK, let's see if I can make this system work

LLink to an old thread

Fingers crossed, here goes.

Walrus

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 10 May 02 - 07:21 AM

The other way round, Noreen:
<br>

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Noreen
Date: 10 May 02 - 07:02 AM

>br<

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 May 02 - 06:09 AM

Obviously my last remark was Refreshing *BG*

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 May 02 - 06:08 AM

Isn't it refreshing, how many 'catters will respond to a thread which ends with the words "Please Ignore"

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 May 02 - 02:45 PM

because browsers don't stick to the standards (the this nonsense with blink/marquee and other such stuff).

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 09 May 02 - 02:40 PM

How come it works without the quotes? At least here - which is the only place I am familiar with.

Steve

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 08 May 02 - 04:05 PM

The consensus opinion at Mudcat is that you probably shouldn't use them

Ok, so I am out of consense here.

HTML says they are necessary when certain characters appear in the attribute value, they have to be quoted.
And if in doubt, I stick to the rules...

Here is what the HTML standard says:

By default, SGML requires that all attribute values be delimited using either double quotation marks (ASCII decimal 34) or single quotation marks (ASCII decimal 39). Single quote marks can be included within the attribute value when the value is delimited by double quote marks, and vice versa. Authors may also use numeric character references to represent double quotes (&#34;) and single quotes (&#39;). For double quotes authors can also use the character entity reference &quot;.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 08 May 02 - 11:14 AM

I'll be danged!

Steve

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 08 May 02 - 11:11 AM

test

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 08 May 02 - 11:09 AM

Test

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 May 02 - 10:13 AM

MudGuard -

Right on about the """"". That's the main problem with using the quotes - I seem to be inclined to leave the closing quote off. In this case, I think I copied and thought I'd picked up both quotes - and didn't pruff reed.

The consensus opinion at Mudcat is that you probably shouldn't use them at either end, but I have seen a few sites that balk if they're not there. Maybe if I'd get my head made up about how I really want to do it, I wouldn't make so many mistakes.

John

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:37 AM

John, your last example wouldn't work as the " after the first = is missing ;-)

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:18 AM

Dead Horse:

Let's see how bad I can mess this up.

You wrote:

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org">thread.cfm?threadid=40461</a>

and then:

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org">thread.cfm?threadid=4078035</a>

Either of the above will take you to the mudcat homepage - not to the particular thread.

The "thread.cfm?threadid=#####" is part of the address that the tag "points to," so the whole thing needs to go in the opening tag - between the first "<a href=" and the first ">":

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4078035>

The stuff that comes after the first > is the "display" to give people a place to click. It is a fine idea to repeat the critical part of the address, so you might use:

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4078035">thread.cfm?threadid=4078035</a>

Or you can put anything else (preferably descriptive) there:

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4078035">Answers to the world, its meaning, and eventual value to humanity</a>

Which would display as

Answers to the world, its meaning, and eventual value to humanity

It the "target" is on mudcat, you can shorten it to:

<a href=/thread.cfm?threadid=4078035">thread.cfm?threadid=4078035</a>

Since anyone who can click it is already connected to one of the mudcat servers, you only have to tell them where on their server to find it.

If the target is "offsite,' you need the whole thing.

John

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:17 AM

Deadhorse (or should I say Captain Ahab?), use this:

for links within mudcat:
<a href="/urlonmudcat">clickable text</a>
and replace the red parts.

for links to the outside world (if it really exists):
<a href="http://www.outsideworld.com">clickable text</a>
The bold part is important for outside links!

MudGuard/Andreas

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Dead Horse
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:50 AM

thread.cfm?threadid=4078035

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Dead Horse
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:45 AM

thread.cfm?threadid=40461

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:51 AM

Why should I chill?

Cu in Brussels!
Andreas/MudGuard

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 03:33 PM

Chill, Andreas- it's gone now... (Oh no, it's back again...!)

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 02:00 PM

blink and marquee are not HTML.
blink is an invention of Netscape and will only work in Netscape browsers (probably not in the new 6.x Netscapes).

marquee is an invention of Microsoft and will only work in Microsoft browsers.

Both are extremely annoying.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 01:20 PM

Hmmm.

MARQUEE

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 01:19 PM

Italics blue click here

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 01:13 PM

Darn, that blinky thing doesn't seem to work.

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Brían
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 01:10 PM

Well, let's see:

BIG

SMALL

H1

H5

BLINK

Brían

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Noreen
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:58 PM

An Pluiméir Ceolmhar, your first aatempt was fine, apart from the fact that you missed the /a at the end of the link. If you want the words Photo of ICB workshop to appear, you have to put them in the place of click here. Try again?

Photo of Click here .

Noreen

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: C-flat
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:13 PM

Please work

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: C-flat
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:09 PM

Click here

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Red Eye
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:12 PM

Congratulations SharonA!

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,Still desperate
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:10 PM

Here comes another failed <href=http://ragtime.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=40461&messages>blue clicky</> to drive me mad.

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I made your angle brackets visible so you could see what you did wrong. Try this:
<a href=http://ragtime.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=40461&messages>blue clicky</a> to drive me mad.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,Pluiméir Ceolmhar growing desparate
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:05 PM

Well that was even less successful than the first attempt, but I hope someone gets my drift and sets it right.

Here goes again

Anyone wanting to practise click here can use the practice thread set up for this purpose.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,Pluiméir Ceolmhar coping with hair trigger
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:00 PM

Could I suggest that someone writes out a more step-by-step guide based on an example, and asks Joe to substitute it for what's on the FAQ at present, please?

What I have is something along the following lines:

EXAMPLE

Suppose you want to turn the words "blue clickies" into a link to the HTML Test Thread.

1. Type the sentence containing the relevant words, e.g

Anyone wanting to practise blue clickies can use the practice thread set up for this purpose.

2. [At] the phrase "blue clickies" insert the following: [and this is where I need the help of someone who is clickie-literate to give the correct instructions. Just which bits of the instruction in the FAQ should be put exactly where?]

3. Open a separate navigator window... and copy from the address bar the URL to which you want to set up the link.

4. Return to your draft posting and paste in the URL [wherever is appropriate, to be described in unambiguous terms which even an ignoramus like me can't misunderstand]

5. The sentence should now appear as follows [whoever picks up the idea, please correct]:

Anyone wanting to practise Click here can use the practice thread set up for this purpose.

6. Finish typing your posting and submit it. When posted it will appear as a html link or "blue clicky".

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,Pluiméir Ceolmhar asking for help
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 11:37 AM

OK, so I did a blue clicky, but the words which I wanted to turn blue and clicky disappeared into space, and the whole following sentence turned blue and clicky instead.

The advice on the FAQ file is just too succinct for someone not used to html.

Could I suggest that someone writes out a more step-by-step guide based on an example, and asks Joe to substitute it for what's on the FAQ at present, please?

What I have is something along the following lines:

Suppose you want to turn the words "blue clickies" into a link to the HTML Test Thread.

1. Anyone wanting to practise blue

Type the sentence which includes the words

In the meantime I'll keep trying.

Photo of ICB workshop.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 11:27 AM

Photo of Click here . Maybe I should forget about blue clickies and practise the pipes instead.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 08:51 PM

I just cut & paste the HTML text from JohninKansas's post and got the same message
he has used a <TBODY> tag which still doesn't allow me to because:
Your post contained a prohibited HTML tag. Use you browser's back button and try again.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 11:57 AM

I had a go at tables and failed, with a reject message. Anyone - any ideas. Anyone? Max? Joe?

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Hi, Mr. Red.

Yeah, we decided to make tables illegal, along with a number of other HTML tags that might cause us trouble. If you have a table that you really need to post, send a personal message to me, Pene Azul, or Jeri. -Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Gareth
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 10:22 AM

Something to declare:

America named after Welsh Customs man

AMERICA was named after a British Customs officer and not, as historians have long believed, the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci, who participated in Christopher Columbus's voyages to the New World.

Martin Waidseemuller, whose 1507 map of the world was the first to show the so-called Unknown Territory as a separate continent, has long been credited with naming the new land after the Florentine nobleman. But according to a new book by Rodney Broome, Amerike, The Briton Who Gave America its Name, the country was named in 1496, years before Vespucci's voyage, by John Cabot, the Bristol-based explorer who stumbled on the continent while searching for trading opportunities.

'Cabot didn't know he had discovered a separate contnent during his earlier jour journey but he mapped the land he saw in detail and named it after the main sponsor of his trip, a Welsh aristocrat called Richard Amerike,' said Broome. Amerike or Ameryk-both Anglicised versions of Ap Maryke - was a wealthy landowner and merchant trader who lived with his wife, Lucy, and their two teenage daughters in Bristol's Clifton Manor.

He built a profitable career by trading with merchants in Spain and Portugal in the lat ter half of the fifteenth century. In 1486 he was made King's Customs' Officer and was encouraged by the King to send his ships on journeys of discovery. When Cabot was given per mission by Henry VII in 1496 to challenge Columbus the race to discover a trading route through the mysterious land mass that barred Europe's route to valuable trading opportunities in Asia, America was in the perfect position to help, says Broome.

According to papers Broome discovered in Westminster Abbey's archives, Vespucci and Columbus used Cabot's maps secretly. 'As their fame grew and Cabot's declined, the misconception grew that it was they who had named the new land,' he said.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 01:59 PM

Mark, a small warning: some old browsers (like Netscape 4.7) do not display the button element (Netscape < 6.0 generally does not display form controls if they are NOT within a form element.

MudGuard

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Mark Clark
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 09:49 AM

Click This!

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:53 AM

This keyboard is crap, if you don't press hard enough it misses letters off, I think I will complain to th council.

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: GUEST,Johnfrom hull in the libary
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:50 AM

Thans Andy, The phot is of The Kington, in Hull

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:20 AM

John, your first attempt missed a blank between a and href.

Second attempt works - but what is "vlick" ;-)

Nice picture, btw.

MudGuard

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:33 AM

vlick here

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: O'Trasno
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 06:09 PM

A ver....

here?

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 08:58 PM

For the lazy, there are OTHER ways....

I know I will never take the time to TRULY learn complex HTML, but I can find helpers....at this site is ColorFazer, which will do a certain class of tricks.. I suppose one could write code and use this to check the format....

Subject: RE: HTML test thread 1 - please ignore
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 08:25 PM

Here