Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: MartinRyan Date: 23 Mar 16 - 04:37 AM Hi GUESTvectis The phrase is indeed from a common children's rhyme. The author combines such fragments with his childhood memories of Dublin. Regards |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST,Gealt Date: 23 Mar 16 - 07:37 PM They say a true Dub never climbed to the top of the pillar, if true then I am a culchie, tho' born in Dublin. I was sorry to see it go. O'Connell Street deteriorated after 'the 8th day of March'. Interesting letter recently in The Irish Times: Nelson's Pillar – a 'public nuisance'? Sat, Mar 12, 2016, 01:08 Sir, – On this the 50th anniversary of the destruction of Nelson's Pillar, it is worth recalling that 75 years earlier, in 1891, it was under threat of removal from where the Spire now stands. A private member's Bill, promoted by my grand-uncle Adam and a fellow trader in Upper O'Connell Street, publisher Henry Gill, was passed in the House of Commons to have it moved to another site on the street. They considered it a hindrance to the development of retail trade on the upper end of the street. The Bill was carried by a majority of five, the fifth being Charles Stewart Parnell, who strolled in as the bell rang, knowing nothing of what was going on, and voted in favour! Tim Healy MP contributed to the debate: "Monuments in a public street are a public nuisance, and I should be prepared to support a Bill not only for the removal of this monument but also for those to O'Connell, Father Mathew and Sir John Gray. If it is desirable to commemorate the memory of the great dead, the statues ought to be placed somewhere where they will not be in the way of the living". – Yours, etc, ALEX FINDLATER, Cong, Co Mayo. |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: MartinRyan Date: 23 Mar 16 - 08:43 PM Nice one! Regards |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: mayomick Date: 25 Mar 16 - 10:57 AM Bang Bang and the Dublin cinema https://vimeo.com/24306728 https://vimeo.com/24306728 |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST,Gealt Date: 25 Mar 16 - 02:50 PM There was a guy in Galway City in the early 60s called Don Shoot who behaved in a similar way to BangBang. |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST,Pat Dignam Date: 29 Aug 17 - 08:01 PM I read the following article in the Irish Times, and it prompted me to google "The Mero" and I found this thread. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/bye-bye-bang-bang-a-great-dublin-eccentric-gets-his-due-1.3201436 "Bang Bang" was a guy called Thomas Dudley, born 1906 and died in 1981. Now finally honoured with a monument at his resting place. I was aware of Bang Bang before now, but not the song The Mero. |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST,lou Judson Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:35 PM Never heard the song (link anyone?) and never been to Dublin, but I can't help hearing "Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer..." in my mind... |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST,MGC Date: 31 Jul 18 - 11:16 AM Wow, this is just awesome. So full of information that make this amazing song come to life... |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: Thompson Date: 01 Aug 18 - 06:06 AM Is it a song about the war between North-Ireland and the Republic? When was this war? I must have missed it. Here are the lyrics; it's a nostalgic song that kind of starts as a skipping rhyme and goes on to cite cultural references from the city ("longers" are trousers worn by adolescence as opposed to the shorts little boys wore; "langers" means drunk, for instance). A "Stater" was a supporter of the Free State, the compromise government of the 1920s; a "Tan" was a Black-and-Tan, a member of a British paramilitary army remembered for its atrocities during the War of Independence in the early 1920s. A fancy man is a married woman's lover. Haffeners were Hafner's sausages. Jacob's was a biscuit factory and one of the sites occupied by the rebels during the Easter Rising of 1916. On the town means prostitution. Transport Union was James Connolly's Irish Transport & General Workers' Union; a brown nose suggests that you're licking the arse of the management. Brendan Behan was a Dublin writer who wrote in Irish and in English; póg mo thón means "kiss my arse". Ginger Man is a reference to a book about post-WWII Dublin by JP Donleavy. A tanner, sixpence in old money, was the price of a cinema ticket in the 1950s or 1960s, the era referenced by the song. Confo money is "confirmation money" - the tips given to a child by relatives and family friends at the time of Confirmation into the Catholic Church aged around 12; to have your Confo money (or worse, your Communion money) saved was jokingly considered the sign of an over-thrifty person. Con Martin was a GAA football star. The phrasing "We all went up to the Mero" references a song about Monto, the prostitution district of 1900s Dublin, but contrasts it with the innocence of the 1950s. The Cisco Kid was a western hero in films, radio serials and later TV shows. Hairy Lemon was another of the many Dublin "characters" who wandered the streets annoying the bourgeoisie at the time. I don't know what a Primo is; scapulars were religious symbols worn around the neck to show your commitment to a particular Catholic group. The Black Babies were starving African babies supposedly saved from hunger and introduced to religion and education by Irish children giving their halfpennies (pronounced hayp'nies) to the Catholic Church as well as collecting huge amounts of the silver paper that surrounded chocolate bars and rolling it into giant balls to give to the Church, which monetised it in some mysterious way. In the Irish worldview of the time such African politicians as Patrice Lumumba were to the credit of Ireland because they had supposedly been "black babies" educated and westernised in mission schools. Dolly Fossett's was a brothel. Alfie Byrne was a Lord Mayor of Dublin and beloved character (featured in a James Joyce story written for Joyce's grandson, The Cat and the Devil). Fasting before Communion proved you were holy. Olivia de Havilland was a ladylike sex goddess of the silver screen. Mandrake the Magician was a newspaper strip cartoon syndicated all over the anglophone world. Nelson's Pillar was the centre of Dublin - a 134-foot-tall pillar with a statue of Horatio Nelson on the top, erected by the grateful capitalists of Dublin and hated as a symbol of imperialism by Dublin socialists. In the idealistic nostalgia of the song, quarrels were solved by a fist fight followed by a drink, whereas nowadays drug families are wiping each other out with guns. The guardian angel was a Catholic concept of the time which suggested that every human had a specific angel whose job was to mind them and keep them safe - a children's prayer has the lines "Garda na n-aingeal ós mo chionn, Dia romhainn, agus Dia liom" - a guard of angels over my head, God before us and God with me. The "holy hour" was a two-hour break in the middle of the day when pubs were shut by law, originally designed to stop all-day drinking. A large one is a double whiskey. A plenary indulgence is a concept whereby Catholics who performed particular rites of prayer could win time off for good behaviour for themselves or others from Purgatory, a kind of way-station of Hell before admission to Heaven. A baby Power is a tiny bottle of Power's Gold Label whiskey (the corked bottles were often used to bring milk to school once they had been emptied of whiskey). The Mero By Pete St John Somebody`s under the bed, whoever can it be? I feel so very nervous, I call for Joanee Joanee lights the candle but there’s nobody there He Hi, Diddeleedai and out goes she Skipping rope still turning, children at their play In and out of Clarendon Street, in and out to pray I haven’t prayed for twenty years or sung a happy song Since praying went with innocence and the devil played along And we all went up to the Mero; hey there, who’s your man? It’s only Johnny Forty Coats, sure he’s a desperate man Bang Bang shoots the buses with his golden key He Hi, Diddeleedai and out goes she Me father was a Stater and me mother loved a Tan She loved her Haffenner’s sausages and her soldier fancy man Our Nora’s up in Jacobs, and Mary’s on the town And I joined the Transport Union when they said me nose was brown And we all went up to the Mero; hey there, who’s your man It’s Brendan Behan out walking, sure he’s the ginger man A fainne up his arse hole and he’s shouting póg-mo-hone Do you think you’re bleedin’ Mandrake, why don’t ya write a poem I’ve a tanner for the Mero and me Confo money’s hid If Mary’s in the family way, she can blame the Cisco Kid I’ll be langers in the morning, me longers need a patch Ah, Jesus – there’s Con Martin, I hope ya won the match Me uncle had a wolfhound that never had to pee But Hairy Lemon snatched it down on Eden Quay Now I have me Primo and me Scapulars of Blue For helping the black babies and Dolly Fossett too And we all went up to the Mero; hey there, who’s your man It’s Alfie Byrne out walking, now there’s a decent man Communion every morning, here’s to the fastin spit Olivia De Havilland has a freckle on her tit It’s true that Dublin’s changing since the pillar was blown down By the winds of violence that are buggerin’ up the town We used to solve a difference with a diggin’ match and jar But now they’re all playin’ Bang Bang, that’s goin’ too bleedin’ far So we’ll all go up to the Mero; hey there, who’s your man It’s only me Guardian Angel, get a large one for yer man There’s no use bleedin` rushin’, sure now’s the holy hour A plenary indulgence and another baby-power |
Subject: RE: The Mero (explanation wanted) From: GUEST Date: 05 Oct 20 - 12:33 PM That#s not so. The Volta and the Mary Street Picture House were two totally separate Cinemas. |
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