Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Amos Date: 21 Dec 01 - 09:16 AM Not particularly, thanks! A |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Morticia Date: 21 Dec 01 - 09:25 AM On a serious note, you really should leave some instructions as to what you want done in order to save grieving family and friends having to make the kinds of decsions that they really aren't up to, right after your death.Happened to me this year, and I still fret that I didn't give him the sort of send off he might have wished for. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 21 Dec 01 - 10:43 AM When I die, don't bury me at all, Just hang me up on the bar-room wall, Pickle my bones in alcohol, It's a hard time everywhere. With apologies to Hedy West Murray |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Dec 01 - 11:35 AM So, why has no one volunteered to be put through a trash compactor? - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Dec 01 - 01:39 PM Some years ago I read an article about a pub in England that was selling the space behind bricks in the wall or, I think, beneath the floor, for cremains -- so you'd never be far from your favorite libation or your friends at the pub. I wouldn't mind being a permanent fixture at The Press Room. ;-) Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Raggytash Date: 21 Dec 01 - 01:46 PM Recycled, burnt, ashes loaded into a rocket and fired out over the sea at Whitby please. Followed by the mother of all sings celebrating a great life not mourning a passing. Incidently I did hear of one person who arranged his own music and when the coffin went through the curtains into the crematorium he asked Dame Vera Lynn singing Sally to be played ............. however someone got the wrong track on the CD so as the coffin started to move they mourners got Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye cheerio here I go ..........etc |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: GUEST,Deda Date: 21 Dec 01 - 02:31 PM My mother donated her body to a teaching hospital, where they used the cadaver in classes. A year later, they burn them anyway so we got a box of ashes back, which are buried next to my Dad's in the CT town where I (mostly) grew up. I've visited their graves a few times--but I live too far away to get there much any more. I've arranged to donate my body to a teaching hospital, too -- although here in Colorado my estate will have to pay the cost of transportation. (Cheeky ingrates!) If you're planning to live forever--so far, so good. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:29 PM "Do you want to be buried or cremated?" NO! Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:35 PM I can thnik of plety of people who I wood like to like see buried or cremated or even shot. I aint one of them. If I dye, then I want to be preeserved insiude a giant bottle of beer, eh, so all the people whoo didnt apreshiate me whyle I was here can feel sorry when they look at me and I will be DRUNK forever at no cost. That wood be my idea of heven. BDiBR |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: 53 Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:56 PM john prine does a song called don't bury me, and i think that it would be fitting for this thread. BOB |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: mousethief Date: 21 Dec 01 - 06:37 PM Buried. It is the tradition of my church. Alex |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM First, one helluva wake; then Cremated, with my ashes scattered over some really beautiful area, of which there are many in this area; or Buried (no coffin) in some old-growth forest; or if anyone feels up to it, I'd kinda like to have my own pyramid. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Rollo Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:21 PM Not important what they do to the body... my soul will have gone. Leave it to the worms or to the bonfire.
But speaking of cemetary rituals, most of all I like cannibalism. No really. They bury their beloved in their own stomaches, so they will forever stay with their family and never be lonely. That's love.
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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Rollo Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:23 PM Sorry, I meant "sweet", not "sweat". English is not my native language. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: 53 Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:48 PM very good rollo. BOB |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Lepus Rex Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:51 PM Only TWO of us for sky burial? You people will be missing out. ---Lepus Rex |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bill D Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:18 PM well, this thread was worth opening for those first 3 posts! *big grin* I decided years ago...IF there any useful parts of me, recycle them for others....then cremate me...after all, I have been making an Ash of myself all my life...might as well end it the same way...;>) also, I do simple math and it tell me that space for traditional burials in simply not infinite..(ask them in New Orleans, LA about this!) I have no particular wishes as to what is done with the ashes--if anyone I know is still around, they can decide. (Perhaps I'll do a woodturned urn that can be sealed and give my son the option of keeping me on the mantle, or scattering me as he chooses) |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Amos Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:27 PM Bury my ash with an apple core, and let it grow a tree. Or failing green-thumbed executors, then sprinkle them at sea. Or sprinkle them upon the wind, to feed upon the rain, But do whate'er with some respect -- 'cuz I plan to be watching, so be careful!!! A |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Celtic Soul Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:30 PM Oh man...I wish I had a lot more time to could keep up here. Gnu, that was hilarious! As to the question: I dunno. I really don't much care *what* happens to what I leave behind once I have left. Like, when I wear out a pair of jeans, I don't much care what happens to the scraps. I may have to leave that choice up to my daughter. She'd likely care more than I would after the fact. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: CarolC Date: 22 Dec 01 - 06:33 PM Happy trails gnu!
;-)
...let your fingers do the walking through the Yel-low Pages |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: GUEST,Irish Sergeant Date: 22 Dec 01 - 07:03 PM Hi to all: And what a happty Ho, Ho, Ho to all of us! It doesn't matter because I believe I shall return as God deem needed. However, my personal wish is to be cremated and my ashes spread where they might return one last bit of good to the earth whence we all sprang. I would like to have a piper play " The Flowers of the Forest" Kindest regards, Neil |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Art Thieme Date: 22 Dec 01 - 08:26 PM Neither. Art |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 22 Dec 01 - 09:41 PM Bill D, you could always turn a commemorative ashtray and have your remains placed therein. That way you could gain weight without worrying about it ...... Murray |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Dec 01 - 09:48 PM Thanks for making a link to the DIY funeral site whoever it was.john |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Lyrical Lady Date: 22 Dec 01 - 10:58 PM Burn and sprinkle please .... I've told everyone and now I'll tell you all ... just in case someone forgets ...scatter my ashes under the cherry orchard on Windover Farm, Mayne Is. B.C. Thank You,... LL PS .. Musicman has to sing "Goin' home" ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Deckman Date: 22 Dec 01 - 11:42 PM I was an Army medic. I learned much of necessary human anatomy through courses at the U.W., working with cadavers. When I die, I think I'll return the favor. For your information, to be serious for a moment, all bodies donated to a teaching hospital, will be used respectfully and the cremated ashes will be returned intact. Think about it ... the untlimate recyclying. Bob |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: DougR Date: 23 Dec 01 - 12:25 AM No deep dark hole for me. Cremation. It's already arranged. DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: katlaughing Date: 23 Dec 01 - 02:28 AM Anything useful is to be donated to others in need, but my niece gets first crack, if she needs anything by then, as she is diabetic. Then cremated. I like the idea of the Tibetan sky burial, too, or burning in a Native American pyre, but both seem impractical and might be difficult for whomever is left to carry it out. I want my ashes buried by the big HUDSON tombstone where my grandparents lie in an old cemetry in Colorado, up above the little ranch town they helped homestead. We buried my mom's ashes up there, next to her favourite brother and put a marker, so we can go *visit.* I've always loved going there to tidy up the sites and feel the peaceful solitude. There is always a slight breeze and a few crows who'll come for a chat and one in a while an eagle or two. Morticia, thanks, I agree wholeheartedly with you and I know a tiny bit of how hard it was for you. The easier we can make it for those we leave behind, the better, imo. My 92 year old aunt is dying and still will not discuss it with anyone. My cousin has no idea of what she would prefer and I believe it is exacerbating an already very sad situation. kat |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: katlaughing Date: 23 Dec 01 - 02:30 AM Forgot to say, I don't want anyone sitting around waiting while I get turned into ashes. With mom, we received her ashes from the crematory, took them up to the cemetery and had a short service there and it felt perfect. I've never liked the aura of a mortuary or church for grieving anyway! Better to be in the great outdoors, going home to Gaia, unless one happens to have a proper pub for a send off! |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Art Thieme Date: 23 Dec 01 - 09:26 AM When in my 20s, a buddy of ours passed away. His parents-had his ashes in an urn on the mantle. Whenever we were over there to visit his brother, Bill became our ashtray and we'd flick our ashes in with his. (We never put the butts in. We were sure he had his own somewhere mixed in there 'cause he could often be a real asshole.) ------- His parents would sometimes get pissed when we'd offhandedly mention that, "Bill seems to be gaining weight." Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: DougR Date: 23 Dec 01 - 12:57 PM That's funny Art! DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: wysiwyg Date: 23 Dec 01 - 01:14 PM No, thanks, John, not today, but thanks for offering! You? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: John MacKenzie Date: 23 Dec 01 - 03:10 PM Well whatever I haven't made up my mind yet. As I think Oscar Wilde said, "Die that's the last thing I'll do!" As LBJ might have said,"Nuthin's certain except death an' Texas." However my biggest worry is where I go after I pass away,I will be really pissed off if I die and go to heaven, cos I won't know a soul. Failte.....Jock |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: SINSULL Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:12 PM I was in Tibet when a member of a group at the same guest house died. Her family was given 24 hours to decide: cremation or sky burial. They chose cremation. I bet she would have preferred the alternative. Sky burial is not going to happen for me. So I will go with cremation and decide on a few locations for my ashes. NO FLOWERS! If someone cares enough they will send them while I am alive. It is obscene to waste them on grieving. And ther will be a party to celebrate my life and passing. I have enjoyed it here so far. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: wysiwyg Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:30 PM Oh I forgot to tell you a funny story. One parishioner overheard the local undertaker doing a pre-funeral consult-- you know, pre-planning? He was heard to remark, upon taking the dear little old lady's hand and gazing boyishly and earnestly into her eyes: "Oh, no, Mary-- you'd never choose cremation if you saw how they jump up in the fire!!!" Well she almost died of a heart attack on the spot! Cremation, of course, is cheaper. Anyone going to the Body Farm in Tennessee? Wait, I have a Red Cross story too. We had a military message to deliver about a death out of state-- getting leave authorized for a family member to attend. We have to verify all deaths, get official word from a doctor, or funeral director, or police, or someone with a title-- so the military family member's commanding officer knows this is not the eighth time dear old aunt Bertha has died in order to get leave for a homesick soldier!!! Well, our caseworker could not find the body anywhere!!!! She had chapters all over the country phoning their funeral homes looking for this lady! It turned out she'd had herself donated to science, and it took us a long time to find the university she'd been sent to! Death... don't show no mercy.... in this towwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn....... ~Susan |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: lady penelope Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:30 PM I've never wanted to be buried, I live in London and it always seemed an awful waste of space ( apart from the widlife it helps support ) and could be horrible for your relations when they find out yours is not the only body in the grave! ( Depending on the cemetary, you can have up to five bodies in one grave, with the most recently deceased's stone on the top. ) Not to mention that all the trappings ( coffin, hearse to get you there etc. ) an awful waste of resources. But I never felt happy with the amount of fuel needed to burn a body and then you still had the expense. In england, you still have to be in a pine box, at least, to be cremated, although you can be buried in almost anything down to a cardboard box! Then, a couple of years ago, a brilliant idea by a woman in Norway supplied my answer. After removing any viable organs ( my choice ) the body is frozen with liquid nitrogen and then broken up. The effect of freezing with liquid nitrogen means that when the tissue thaws out, it is far easier for microbes etc. to break it down further. The result is that instead of taking 5 - 20 years ( depending on embalming, type of coffin etc. ) for the body to decay back to the soil, it only takes up to 2 years! And 'cos you're being buried, you can use a cardboard box. Hurrah! I don't want a headstone, if people must do something , than an appropriate tree would be the thing. And a big party. With lots of music and singing. And bad jokes. And a good percentage of hangovers the next day. I think that's all. TTFN M'Lady P. |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Irish sergeant Date: 23 Dec 01 - 08:51 PM The only other stipulation than what I had above is the required wake and requisitye number of hangover so when my pards fire the three shot volley, if they don't remember the wake they will remember the scattering! Cheers, Neil;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Art Thieme Date: 24 Dec 01 - 10:41 AM One more item I just remembered about my friend, Bill: He was a VERY heavy drinker. When he was cremated it too 2 months for the fire to go out. Art ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Art Thieme Date: 24 Dec 01 - 10:43 AM ....and he burned with a soft and a subtle blue flame. Art |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: katlaughing Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:35 PM Oh, Art!! LMAO!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:40 PM Did you make good use of him? I'm thinking that he could have been a valuable resource not merely as the REASON for the gathering, but also as a means of cooking the feast for the assembled mourners! "Thrift, Horatio, thrift....." |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Don Firth Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:55 PM Steeped in alcohol and burned for two months with a "soft and a subtle blue flame? Art, would you say that Bill was a "wick-ed" person? (. . . like a candle in the wind . . .) Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:07 PM Spike Jones' contribution to the "burn, baby, burn" issue (partial cut 'n paste):
My old flame
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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:11 PM which just naturally leads to: |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:33 PM to be followed immediately by: |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Roger in Sheffield Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:39 PM I like the idea of being buried under a tree, something long lived, an Oak or Yew. Trouble is you just know that twenty years down the line this eternal woodland resting place would be closed, and be bought by developers for housing - bye bye trees graves et all. I feel really bad about the poor peoples bones that are regularly pawed over by Baldrick and company on the TV program Time Team. On one program ancient graves had been left intact when modern houses had been built, the poor souls had been ready for eternal rest and instead some of them were damned to lie below suburban floorboards, MTV not RIP. Not sure I care what happens to me when I am dead, I won't be there to see (or will I?) Roger |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:40 PM should have linked directly to The Record Lady...where you can hear Johnny & Jack singing "Ashes of Love" ...if you've a mind to |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:43 PM I always think of how affronted the souls of our forebears must be every time an interstate highway or shopping mall or housing development encroaches upon what was supposed to have been their final resting place. Last time I was at Southwark Cathedral I was thinking about what the sleepers in the tombs would make of the flyover that essentially cuts in front of one of the doors, to say nothing of the traffic, air pollution, etc. Something along the lines of "This place is going to hell!", I fancy! |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: katlaughing Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:44 PM My old Wyoming History professor told of a widow of an outlaw who, after he'd been hung, had his body kept under her bed in a lead-lined coffing filled with whiskey. I thought it was Big Nose Goerge, who was pickled, but was treated much more gruesomely. Can't remember the widow or her husband's name. I expect either one could have lit a few fires! |
Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ? From: gnu Date: 24 Dec 01 - 05:21 PM Actually, I would like to be able to know when it was about time. I'd head to a cedar ridge between the Alagash and Mountain Heaths in Kent County, New Brunswick, my traditional hunting grounds, and take my last walk in the woods, never to return, except maybe as moose s***. Of course, and I've said this before at the 'Cat, I know that if reincarnation is really true, I'm coming back as an alcoholic woodpecker.... ouch ! |