Lyr Req: Gary Owen (not the old one)

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 07:13 PM

I don't know what tune they used but it fits "She'll be coming round the mountain"

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Alice
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:22 PM

I just noticed this thread ended without the tune to the lyrics. As dick noted, the words do not fit the tune of Garry Owen. Does anyone know the tune to this call and respond song that Wolfgang posted?

Alice

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 09 Mar 98 - 02:57 PM

Do any of you scouting types know the tune for this? It's clearly not Garry Owen.

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Phideaux
Date: 08 Mar 98 - 03:37 PM

Note to Alice.

Most(and I mean most) people in command/power are arrogant a**es in one way or another. Custer was no exception except he got his a** kicked & became famous for it.

Bob S.

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 06 Mar 98 - 12:28 AM

The Custer Battlefield National Monument is now the Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument, and can be visited (virtually) at http://www.nps.gov/libi/

The nearby settlement of Garryowen (originally an administrative post for the Bureau of Indian Affairs) was named after the old Irish tune which was adopted as the 7th Cavalry's marching song, probably because there were many Irishmen serving in the 7th Cavalry at the time.

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: scott
Date: 05 Mar 98 - 08:03 PM

thanks alot, this is exactly the song i was thinking of. I think that homepage must be from Camp hinds (Raymond, ME). Goood people up there. Thanks again for posting this. -scott

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 05 Mar 98 - 07:49 PM

There are other reasons to call Custer names. In 1868 he and his troops massacred over 100 peaceful Cheyenne men, women, and children. Custer was under the apparently erroneous impression that a raiding party had come from that camp. He started the 1876 war by following Sheridan's illegal orders to enter the Dakota reservation in the Black Hills (which was protected by treaty), and while he was there he encouraged prospecting for gold, which led to the gold rush that caused most of the reservation to be taken away. (Incidentally, he started the battle of Little Big Horn by a surprise attack on a camp, but that time, as Alice notes, he miscalculated and never got to the women and children.)

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Alice
Date: 05 Mar 98 - 11:09 AM

By the way, General Custer was an arrogant a**.
"Colonel Custer, a national hero because of his colorful career as a Civil War general and a dashing Indian fighter, had originally been assigned command of the entire Dakota Column. He had angered President Grant, however, by testifying before a congressional committee about corruption in the Indian service, corruption that involved Grant's own brother. In retaliation, the President removed Custer from the command. Only at the last moment did he consent to allow the proud young officer to go along as the commander of the Seventh Cavalry. Some historians have speculated that Custer, a vain and egotistical yet capable man, may have been determined to win back the glorious reputation that Grant had seemingly tarnished."..."Driving his men to exhaustion on a night march, Custer reached the divide between two streams, and at dawn on June 25 his scouts saw the smoke of an enormous encampment in the distance. For whatever reason, whether to have all the glory for himself, or to hit the Indians before they could scatter - or, very possibly, both - the colonel decided not to wait until Terry's June 26 target date. He failed to realize the immensity of the Indian gathering, even though his terrified scouts warned him of it. No matter, for the Seventh, in his opinion, could whip any number!" -- 'Montana a History of Two Centuries', Malone and Roeder
alice

Subject: RE: LYRICS for
From: Alice
Date: 05 Mar 98 - 10:52 AM

Thanks for posting this!! For those who don't know, the tune for the 7th Cavalry, General George Armstrong Custer, was Garry Owen. The battlfield on the Little Bighorn River is on the plains of eastern Montana. The battle is re-enacted every year (and has become controversial). The Custer Battlefield National Monument is on the Crow Indian Reservation, and the little town next to it is called Garryowen (one word).

Alice Flynn
Montana

Subject: Lyr Add: GARY OWEN
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 05 Mar 98 - 04:47 AM

Scott, I found this on the web (http://www.pinetreebsa.org/hinds/songbook/songbook.htm); it reads like if it could be the one you are looking for:
Wolfgang

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GARY OWEN Chorus: Gary Owen, Gary Owen, Gary Owen In the valley of Montana all alone There are better days to be In the seventh cavalry When we charge again For dear old Gary Owen. I can hear those Sioux bucks singing, Sgt. Flynn I can here those tom-toms ringing, Sgt. Flynn I can here those sioux bucks singing, I can here those tom-toms ringing, But they don't yet know the tune to Gary Owen. It's first call I hear it sounding, Sgt. Flynn And it sounds like taps a-rounding, Sgt. Flynn Oh me lads, here's something fancy Take a break, it's Private Clancy And you'll feel better when he strikes up Gary Owen For it's Boots and Saddles sounding, Sgt. Flynn Along the line the men are bounding, Sgt. Flynn So let' saddle-up and fall in For the trumpets are callin' And the band is tuning up for Gary Owen. For it's forward we're advancing, Sgt. Flynn And the breeze guides are a-lancing, Sgt. Flynn Walk, trot, gallop, charged by thunder, We will ride those cut throats under. Drive your sabers to the hilt for Gary Owen. We are ambushed and surrounded, Sgt. Flynn Yet recall has not been sounded, Sgt. Flynn Gather round me and we'll rally Make one last stand in the valley For the Seventh Regiment and Gary Owen. You are cut, and scalped, and battered, Sgt. Flynn All your men are dead and scattered, Sgt. Flynn I will make you bed tomorrow With my head bowed down in sorrow. o'er your grave, I'll whistle Taps And Gary Owen. Leader sings lines of verses, group yells back "Sgt. Flynn" and "Gary Owen" at the end of each of those lines.

Subject: LYRICS for
From: scott
Date: 04 Mar 98 - 08:58 PM

hello, I'm trying to find the lyrics to a song I heard as a boy once. I believe it's title was Gary Owen, but it is not the "Gary Owen" from the UK. The refrain goes:

Gary Owen, Gary Owen, Gary Owen. In the valley of Montana all alone. THere are better days to be in the seventh calvary. So we'll ride again and charge for dear old GARY OWEN!

Several verses are interspersed, which details an indian attack, the seventh calvary's counterattack, and the defeat of the seventh calvary.

Involved is a man named Sergeant Flynn. That is really all I know...any help is much appreciated. thanks -scott