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mmm1a 06 Jan 02 - 12:13 AM
katlaughing 06 Jan 02 - 12:49 AM
Peg 06 Jan 02 - 12:51 AM
GUEST,retired barber 06 Jan 02 - 01:16 AM
GUEST,DeBunker 06 Jan 02 - 01:28 AM
Mark Cohen 06 Jan 02 - 03:57 AM
katlaughing 06 Jan 02 - 04:11 AM
Mark Cohen 06 Jan 02 - 04:47 AM
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Peg 06 Jan 02 - 10:22 AM
Bill D 06 Jan 02 - 10:28 AM
katlaughing 06 Jan 02 - 12:02 PM
SINSULL 06 Jan 02 - 12:08 PM
ermintrudeclaire 06 Jan 02 - 12:54 PM
Giac 06 Jan 02 - 01:01 PM
Celtic Soul 06 Jan 02 - 01:52 PM
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Subject: Donating your Hair
From: mmm1a
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:13 AM

For anyone who has long hair and is thinking about getting it cut, there is an orginazation that takes donated hair and makes wigs for kids that have cancer. My youngest daughter and I had our hair cut today and the lady who cut it told us about it.She said it has to be 6 or 7 inches. My daughter's hair was to many layers to do it but I had no problem giving 7 inches, and I still have hair just past my shoulders. Was planning on cutting it anyway but this made it nice to know that it would be helping someone else. Your local salon should know the details if anyone is interested. mmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:49 AM

Thanks! My daughter gets that much cut off about twice a year and still has long hair after, like you it sounds like. I know she would appreciate knowing about this.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Peg
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:51 AM

I trim mine myself every few months; I guess I coud wait a it longer and have a salon take off more (I usually cut 2 inches or so at a time...but it is very long so I can spare more for this worthy cause)


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST,retired barber
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:16 AM

Hair grows at the rate of a half inch each month even after you are dead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST,DeBunker
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:28 AM

even after you are dead. It's time for this old tale to die. If anyone's hair or nails appeared to grow post mortem it would only be the shrinking of adjoining tissue. When you're dead, you're dead, even your hair.
DeBunker


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 03:57 AM

That's true. And I didn't know about this organization before, but here's the website for Locks of Love. They have information on how to donate, how much hair they need, where to find a salon that cooperates with the program, etc. Fortunately (knock, knock) I don't have any kids with cancer among my patients now, but it's good to know about this. Thanks, mmmla (how do you pronounce that?), for mentioning it.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 04:11 AM

ummmm-lah?*smile*

Thanks for the link, Mark!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 04:47 AM

By the way, the rate of hair growth is not the same every month, but in fact varies with the season. It's fastest in the fall (when we're supposed to be putting on our thick coats for the winter!) Here's a little outline of hair structure and growth. Then there's a nice little slide show which is on the Rogaine website. (disclaimer: I'm not pitching Rogaine here! But their information is accurate.) And for the insomniacs among you, here's a fascinating little piece on control of hair growth. Just in case anyone's interested.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:50 AM

Thanks for the link Mark . I should have known it would have a site on the internet, just didn't think of it. :) By the way mmm is pronounced mmmmmmm lol actually its pronounced Marian lol mmm Marian


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Peg
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 10:22 AM

My hair, while very long, used to grow VERY slowly. This was very frustrating when I was trying to grow it out in college.

It now grows much faster and I do not know why, but I do know I use much better hair products (including rosemary oil added occasionally to my shampoo, which is said to stimulate hair growth) and never, ever use a blow dryer or heat applicances...

thanks for those cool links, Mark! Aloha to you.

Peg


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 10:28 AM

I have friends whose 11 year old son has been growing his hair for almost 2 years and plans to cut and donate it in June. Seems like a good cause. (Wonder if they'd take my old, greying locks...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:02 PM

Peg, it's the good products, but it's also because you trim it every once in awhile. At least that has been my daughters' and my experiences. That and no blow drying, etc. as you said. I have hairdresser friends tell me, though, that it mostly has to do with keeping it trimmed. Doesn't make sense, to cut it, to make it grow, but it is keeping it healthy by keeping the dead ends trimmed, so I guess that's how it makes sense.:-) Mine grows a lot faster because of it and both of my daughters' grows like weeds!


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:08 PM

The weight of your hair makes a difference in how the growth appears. It pulls it straight making it look longer. Mine grows fastest in the summer and sometimes does almost an inch a month. My hairdresser shakes her head and says "This can't be". A real problem when I have it short. It outgrows the style in two to three weeks. A worse problem when I color it and have "roots" in two weeks. More than any of you needed to know - sorry, stress makes me babble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: ermintrudeclaire
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:54 PM

does anyone know if a uk scheme exists?


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Giac
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:01 PM

I have donated my hair to Locks of Love three times. After the first time, it took three years for it to grow long enough again, but only two years the next time, which was about three months ago.

My hair is cut at a local high school in their cosmotology department. They say the hair should be between 10-12 inches in length. The instructor in charge washes the hair first in a special solution, then blow dries it completely (so it won't mildew, I guess). Then she puts rubber bands around it on either side of my head to get the maximum amount of hair in each bunch. She then cuts it close to my head. After having it that long for a time, I'm ready for low maintenance for a few months. This is at no cost to me, and the school sends the hair to the headquarters (no pun intended) in Florida.

Yes, they will take grey hair -- they take mine. ~;o)

Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:52 PM

Wow, what a great idea!!

Does anyone know whether the hair has to be "virgin", or can it be died, hennaed, permed, straightened or any of that?

Thanks for the info!!!! :D


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 02:39 PM

Celtic Soul, if you follow Mark's link, they explain all of that in a FAQs area. Coloured, permed, etc. is okay as long as it is in good condition.

Wow, Giac/Mary, don't know if I could ever be brave enough to have that much cut off and go short and through the different, annoying stages of growing it out, again. I went through that about 9 years ago and have since never had it shorter than shoulder length just so I don't have to suffer with it all in my face and too short to tie back or too short to cover my neck! You are brave!


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: PaulM
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 03:16 PM

I'm sorry but this idea makes me wince!

I can understand where you're coming from, wanting to help and all...

That is undoubtably commendable.

However, if I lost my hair through kemotherapy, I'd much prefer to have a synthetic wig than one made of other people's offcuts...

Maybe I'm too squeamish.

Good luck to the rest of you

Paul


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 03:24 PM

Virgin hair? What happens to it when it changes that condition? I'm not asking for myself, you understand...doing some research as a favor for Spaw. He ran out of anteaters.

A.


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 04:07 PM

Paul, I understand your feelings, but it may be worth knowing that, LONG before chemotherapy, and even after synthetics were available, the best and most expensive wigs have always been made of real human hair. Read O. Henry's story, "The Gift of the Magi", for a wonderful twist on this.

Aloha,
Mark
(Who is not likely to let his hair grow long enough to donate...though one never knows, does one?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: cyder_drinker
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:54 PM

When a friend's daughter lost her hair through chemo treatment for leukaemia, 15 of us had our heads shaved in the pub. Raised quite a lot for the cancer research campaign.


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 08:26 PM

Unfortunately, this news comes to me about a quarter century too late. I actually looked for some useful way to dispose of my waist-length locks when I had them shorn back in the mid-70s, but couldn't find anything like this organization. (I'll keep it in mind just in case I decide to go wild and hirsute again in the second half of life.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: NicoleC
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 12:12 PM

I've done this -- I was getting my hair all cut off a couple of months ago and the hairdresser asked me if she could keep it and donate it. They told me it had to be 12" long though -- so I guess there's more than one organization doing this. I had 12" and more, so she was happy to see me :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: SharonA
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 04:11 PM

I checked out the LOL website and found a hairdresser not far from my home who'll give a cut & style FREE with the hair donation. (There's a long list of such offers, covering many US states!) It's a bit chilly right now to consider a short-cropped style, but spring is coming....


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 10:11 AM

Huh, damn. Wish I would have known about this when I cut my hair in June... Eh, maybe not, actually. After the kid would have worn my hair out in a soft breeze, and the wig turned into one, big dreadlock, s/he probably would have sent it back with an angry letter. There's a reason I threw that stuff away.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 01:09 PM

Sorry, but hair and nails DO grow after death, for several days and perhaps even weeks. Although YOU are dead not all your tissues are, till they run out of O2 or drown in their unremoved waste.

But I'll keep this in mind if I ever do cut my hair by that much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: jeffp
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 01:16 PM

According to the Straight Dope staff, everything stops growing at death. You can read their answer here, if I've done the clicky correctly.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 11:45 PM

Mrrzy, I don't mean this as a challenge, but do you have a reference to document that? I don't think it's true, but would be happy to be proven wrong by a reliable source.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:13 AM

Here are some interesting answers from "Ask Jeeves:"

"I recently read a book titled "Dead Men Do Tell Tales" by William R. Maples, PH.D. The book is about Forensic medicine and Dr. Maples is a renowned Forensic Anthropologist, a true leader in this field. The book however is not for the faint of heart, it discusses in gruesome detail the cause of death and ultimately the killers identity.

"Now, for the answer to your question according to Dr. Maples.

It is a myth that fingernails and hair continue to grow after death. What really happens is that the skin may retract around them, making the hair and nails prickle up and jut out more prominently.

Reference: William R. Maples, Ph.D. and Michael Browning, 1994.
Dead Men Do Tell Tales. (p.39) Doubleday

June Wingert
Microbiology Reference Lab, Houston, Texas"

AND:

Area: Medicine
Posted By: Scott Dietert, M.D. Pathology/Anatomy, retired
Date: Fri May 16 10:52:19 1997
Area of science: Medicine

"I have heard your question made as a statement of fact without ever trying to examine its validity. My usual human gross and microscopic anatomy textbooks make no reference to this phenomenon. However, the autopsy pathology citation above states that, among the numerous postmortem changes noted by physicians, significant drying of the body starts a few hours after death, including the APPARENT LENGTHENING OF THE FINGER NAILS DUE TO SHRINKING OF THE (DRYING) FINGER TIPS.

"This does not exclude that some actual postmortem growth might still occur, particularly in the four-times-more-rapidly-growing finger nails, since both nails and hair are really just specializations of the outermost skin layer called the STATUM CORNEUM. This layer is composed of innumerable, flattened, non-nucleated, keratin-laden cells that are already dead after losing their nucleus! It seems possible that this "programmed cell death" might continue for several days, in spite of the demise of the body as a whole; obviously no new living cells would be available to "fuel" this process so that these nails would soon cease to grow. If interested in pursuing this further you might seek the personal experience of medico-legal forensic pathologists (medical investigators) attached to large metropolitan staffs where the need for exhumation of recently-interred bodies does occur."

There's a whole slew of one line urban folklore sayings which are designated as False, True, etc. and which are kind of fun to read over at this site, too

Hope that link works, never seen an/a URL so long!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jan 02 - 12:54 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: DougR
Date: 16 Jan 02 - 02:50 PM

I'm sure they would, Bill D., I see grey headed ten and eleven year old boys and girls all the time! :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: SharonA
Date: 16 Jan 02 - 03:39 PM

BillD: The grey-hair question is answered on the Locks of Love website; it's considered "unsuitable" for the hairpieces, but is sold to offset manufacturing costs. Here are the complete guidelines, copied from the site:

HAIR DONATION GUIDELINES

* We accept 10" minimum hair length (tip to tip), not wigs, falls, or synthetic hair
* Please bundle hair in ponytail or braid
* Hair needs to be clean, dry, and placed in a plastic bag
* We need hair from men and women, young and old, all colors, and all races
* Hair may be colored or permed, but not chemically damaged (if you're not sure, ask your stylist)
* Hair swept off the floor is not usable
* Hair cut years ago is usable as long as it has been stored in a ponytail
* Hair that is short, gray, or unsuitable for children will be separated from the ponytails and sold at fair market value to offset the cost of manufacturing
* You may pull curly hair straight to measure the minimum 10"
* The majority of all hair donated comes from children who wish to help other children
* Layered hair may be put into more than one ponytail for donation

Sharon


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 05:48 AM

If you would like to donate your hair to Wigs for Kids, please follow these simple guidelines:

Your hair must be clean and dry
The minimum length of the hair is 12 inches
Pull curly hair straight to measure

Hair can be cut at your local salon

Hair that has been cut and saved can be donated

Secure braids and /or ponytails with rubber bands

Place the hair in a plastic bag or wrap in tissue paper Send to:

Wigs for Kids
21330 Center Ridge Road
Rocky River, Ohio 44116


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Subject: RE: BS: Donating your Hair
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 04:51 AM

What is layered hair?


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