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Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius
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Subject: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST,William Date: 04 Apr 02 - 02:05 AM I was at a party last night and somebody put on a tape of Charles Manson singing original songs. I was blown away. I thought it was a joke at first, but it turned out to be ol' Charley himself. What a magnificent lyricist! Manson has to be the most criminally under-rated folksinger of all time. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: musicmick Date: 04 Apr 02 - 02:14 AM And, how about that Nero on fiddle? Smokin'. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: mack/misophist Date: 04 Apr 02 - 03:38 AM I heard that tape, many years ago. There's a reason he couldn't get anyone interested in his music. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Bert Date: 04 Apr 02 - 03:42 AM Are you sure it wasn't "GUEST, Charles Manson"? |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: greg stephens Date: 04 Apr 02 - 04:06 AM To quote(probably wrongly) the Bonzo Dog Doodah Band "and looking very relaxed on vibes, Adolf Hitler" |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Apr 02 - 04:09 AM CM needs to be hung, like the rabid dog he is... |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Wolfgang Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:01 AM You can even read the lyrics from the misunderstood genius if you care. About as fascinating as looking at Hitler's paintings. We really must be glad that not all geniuses that are misunderstood and therefore don't sell enough of their art turn to murder or genocide as an outlet for their frustration with lack of success. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Rolfyboy6 Date: 04 Apr 02 - 07:58 AM Charlie seems to be criminally misunderstood by just about everybody. His cellmate at the California Correctional Medical Facility (read 'nuthouse') tired of Charlie's ramblings and songs poured flammables on him and set him on fire. Audience participation. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Apr 02 - 11:01 AM "Manson has to be the most criminally under-rated folksinger of all time." Well he was certainly never under-rated as a criminal! Wolfgang has it right. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Apr 02 - 11:29 AM What's this all about? Nobody's perfect? Sheesh!!! Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Rick Fielding Date: 04 Apr 02 - 11:52 AM I've GOT that record!! OK, truth to tell...I stole it...or actually LIBERATED it from a public library who simply could never have appreciated it's sheer awfulness. He makes Neil Young sound like Shakespeare...lyric wise....and he CAN'T TUNE!! He's right up there with "Up With People" and Joady Guthrie. Hmmmmmmm....this makes me thinks of a possibly interesting thread (well, more interesting than SOME of the current ones.) "The Funniest Albums in your Collection" Anyone else wanna start it? I've started about four threads in the last couple of weeks, and I don't wanna be a hog. Rick |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Apr 02 - 12:12 PM Up With People?!?!?! Ug.... |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Steve-o Date: 04 Apr 02 - 12:57 PM Whoa, Rick....comparing Charlie with Neil Young?? Now you're gettin' nasty. What is this deep loathing you seem to have for Neil? Maybe you've laid this all out in a previous post that I missed, but... whaaa? "I Am A Child", "Love is a Rose", "Heart of Gold", "Where is the Highway Tonight", etc......lousy writing?? |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Apr 02 - 01:27 PM Well Steve, if Neil is indeed okay to you, it's been because of the great work done by Dr. Cajones at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. Funded by the CIA for many years as a training center for crazed tiple bands who would overthrow governments worldwide through tiple playing instead of assasination, the Center was exposed as such and now just cares for the terminally screwed....like Neil. A recent wing addition, the James Taylor Rehab Clinic for Catatonic Blandness has done quite well also. The Mudcat Cafe has been a contributor to the NYCFTTS for many years and admission for treatment for Mudcat members is free. Transportation is provided by the Insanevac Helicopter Service so if you are in need of treatment......and it's possible that you are......just give a call! It can do wonders for you if you let it!!! Cletus was out there a few years ago before the last election and let me tell you he really had a time!!! During this time, Cletus was being de-toxed at the NYCFTTS from his hamsterdance addiction by playing tapes of Enya interspersed with a collection of witty remarks by Strom Thurmond. Knowing thru Katlaughing that the Young Center is a CIA front and training center for CIA world takeover through the use of crazed tiple bands instead of killing squads, you would expect the treatment to be effective and state of the art. Indeed it was, as Cletus was rehearsing with his own tiple band within a week. They were sent to Washington DC to embarass and discredit Libby Dole by making Bob Dole an embarassment to her. The idea was for this crazed tiple band to play the Oscar Mayer Wiener ditty within earshot of Bob and it would cure his Erectile Dysfunction but leave him screaming through Rock Creek Park, in his flapping boxers, shouting,"I got WOOD! It's a WOODY!!" This plan did not come to fruition as at the last moment, fate reared it's head. Cletus found a place for the band to rehearse for a last time before making a tiple assault on Bob Dole. It was a gardenlike setting in the midst of hundreds of rosebushes which, even dormant, Cletus had always loved. They reminded him of his 5 former wives, all of whom had died in exactly the same way. It seems there lungs had been filled with Sevin dust while using the same defective sprayer. Oddly enough, all of them had recently taken out life insurance with Cletus as the sole beneficiary. After the death of the first, the local sheriff immediately suspected Cletus, but when it came to light that the insurance was for only $500.00, he decided that even ol' Clete wasn't that stupid. Of course, he was new in town then and didn't really KNOW Cletus. With each wife's death, he became more suspicious, but in every case the cheapo life insurance turned him away from Clete. Yeah, it's true, the sheriff ain't exactly J.Edgar Hoover...'course he doesn't cross dress either. But to continue our story, the band began rehearsing the Oscar Mayer tune. They didn't know they were in the Rose Garden of the White House. Even worse, with a mildness to the weather, several windows had been left open a crack to let in the spring breeze. Inside the Oval office, Bill Clinton, now without both Hilary and Monica was meeting with a few top advisors and close friends and discussing world affairs. Maybe it was the springtime air or maybe the nerve jangling sound of a crazed tiple band...maybe it was both. Suddenly Wild Bill began to hold himself and revert to his Arkansas dialect. Pacing about he shouted, "Shee-yet! Suhbitch I jes' gotta' far offn' a biggun'." An aide trying to restore the conversation said something about Yugoslavia to which Bill responded, "Not only Yes, but Hail Yes!!! I gotta' shooter 'ats 'bout to EX-plode. Yugoslavia, Schmugoslavia, I got some blastin' tuh do!! Fuckin'-A right Bubba!" Hence once again a bungled CIA operation led to changes in history that may not have occured otherwise. The band was immediately sent back to the Young Center in Montana. For most of the way they were secreted away in the trunk of a car belonging to a Joe somebody who left the DC area last weekend heading west. Meanwhile, Paw's pacing had been halted by the appearance of three strangers, somewhat goofy looking guys who had stopped here to inquire about Paw's whereabouts. I sent them on down to the wastewater plant and they immediately struck some kind of chord within Paw. This was unusual since they were what Paw always refers to as "Furriners." They introduced themselves as Rick Fielding's brothers...Reg, Reg, and Reg. Turns out that they'd been hoping to strike a deal with Paw and Cletus to combine for a North and South operation to fleece the unsuspecting of their goods. Paw and Cletus through deer hunting "accidents" and Reg, Reg and Reg through ice fishing "slips." Paw must have thought this was what their previously failed business needed and off they went to retrieve Cletus from the Young Center. It was my fear then that these dimbulbs would become CIA recruits for a crazed tiple band and I put out an alert for all points west to watch out for them. Now here I shoulda' known better. I hesitate to call them a band of half-wits since between them they have less than half a wit. Anyway, this half-wit band left town without a word to anyone. You'd think the sun or the roadsigns would have clued them in, but they were actually heading east. I guess they were just walking along and planning how to spend their future riches. They were passing through Wheaton, Maryland, just outside of Washington, DC, when they asked for directions at the home of a guy named Bill carrying an autoharp. This guy seemed to be appalled at the sight of these four and not only told them that Montana was 2000 miles the other way, but what usually happened to assholes like them 300 years ago...and to get the hell off his property NOW!!! So west they headed and of course they were tryin to lay blame on each other. Reg said it was Paw at fault, but Reg said it wasn't and then Reg said just to leave Paw out of it, but Paw says to Reg that he didn't know either and Reg says that Reg is an idiot and Reg says that Reg is an idiot and Paw says that Reg is right but Reg says Paw is full of it and Reg says that Reg............Well I guess this kinda' thing went on to about Frederick. At that point they all suggested that the others didn't have the sense to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel. Whereupon they all sat down on a railroad track and took their boots off only to discover that NONE of them had instructions. This lightened things up and they began to talk about the best way to pour piss out of a boot. So they decided to try out their ideas and they all stood up and began whizzing into their boots. Their aim was helped by the illumination from the headlight of a Norfolk-Southern freight bearing down upon them. It was then that a local TV news van happened upon this scene of four guys pissing in their boots with a fast freight coming at them and began filming the spectacle. Also a police car arrived and the officer screamed for them to move, which thankfully they did...but their boots were carried off by the diesel. They were placed under arrest for indecent exposure and criminal stupidity. I got a call from the police and figured since they had no money and no boots I could go pick them up before they did anymore harm to themselves. But the TV station paid their bail and bought them each a new pair of boots and sent them on their way. The TV people figured they were in for several major awards with the footage they'd shot so money for bail and boots was a pittance. So Steve, you can see how much the Center can do....or not. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Mark Cohen Date: 04 Apr 02 - 02:24 PM I'm sorry, 'Spaw, I wasn't listening. What did you say? Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Lonesome EJ Date: 04 Apr 02 - 02:42 PM Holy hell! Spaw must be doubling up on the Jolt Cola. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST,bailey Date: 04 Apr 02 - 04:48 PM my only knowledge of manson's music is axl rose's haunting rendition of 'look at your game girl' from the spaghetti incident. good stuff. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Rick Fielding Date: 04 Apr 02 - 06:21 PM Steve-o......Catspaw has beat me into submission with his irrefutable logic and Dubya-like command of his subject. I bow to your wishes. Charlie makes 'America's' lyrics seem like Shakespeare.......there, finally we can all agree on something! Cheers Rick |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Gypsy Date: 04 Apr 02 - 11:50 PM Wolfgang.....ugh! Thanks for the link. i had no idea that a theoretically grown man could write such sophomoric lyrics! Trippy site, yes? |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Lin in Kansas Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:30 AM 'Spaw, a masterful summary! Hey, people--go ask MMario for a list of the "tunes wanted" and spend some time adding to the DT instead of trying to glorify psychopaths. Lin |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST,bailey Date: 05 Apr 02 - 03:02 AM let's not get carried away here. 'psychopath' is a little strong. remember, charles never actually laid a hand on anybody. real murderers have done FAR less time. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 05 Apr 02 - 08:00 AM In the immortal words of the man himself:
You could feed the world with my garbage dump |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:00 AM Bailey, perhaps you are correct in saying psychopath is too strong a word since none of us are trained psychoanalyst types and maybe we are misusing the word. Let's just say he's a completely crazed and criminal, lunatic motherfucker with murderous intent. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Amos Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:16 AM Yeah -- why use one strong word, when a dozen ambiguous ones will serve? Masterful shit, Spaw! S |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Kim C Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:16 AM I guess it depends on how you define "genius." Manson apparently had the gift of persuasion and was able to get people to follow him, not unlike Adolf Hitler. Now, charisma in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing - but every so often, people come along who use their gifts in the wrong way, and chaos and destruction ensue. It's too bad. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST,Nick Seeger Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:28 AM He's right up there with "Up With People" and Joady Guthrie. Nice one Rick Fielding. You lump an innocuous Christian youth group and the son of Woody Guthrie, who has dedicated his life to enviornmental protection, together with a murdering cult leader with a swastika tattooed on his forehead. Joady's a great guy and his only LP, "Spies On Wall Street," is a pretty good album. I love his song about red diaper babies. NS |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Mooh Date: 05 Apr 02 - 11:35 AM Frankly, Manson is neither misunderstood nor a genius. Outside behavioral norms, yes, but not without human comparators. He offers nothing original to society and further pollutes history with both evil and inane drivel. The lyrics posted above are less than adolescent, shallow and immature. That people are impressed by him scares me more than the man himself. That evil intent has become a pop phenomenon worries me because it gives Manson credibility where none should exist. He's fucked alright. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST Date: 05 Apr 02 - 11:51 AM "Frankly, Bush is neither misunderstood nor a genius. Outside behavioral norms, yes, but not without human comparators. He offers nothing original to society and further pollutes history with both evil and inane drivel. The lyrics posted above are less than adolescent, shallow and immature. That people are impressed by him scares me more than the man himself. That evil intent has become a pop phenomenon worries me because it gives Bush credibility where none should exist." |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: Mooh Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:47 PM Guest, Good echo. Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: GUEST,zimmy Date: 06 Apr 02 - 03:15 AM Of for crying out loud. Manson? Please. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: MAG Date: 06 Apr 02 - 10:09 AM I'll break my own rule about not responding to threads started by anonymous guests which look like obvious red flags, to say: yeah, Sharon Tate had the bad luck to buy a house once owned by the guy who declined to give Manson a record deal. |
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Subject: RE: Charles Manson: Misunderstood Genius From: van lingle Date: 06 Apr 02 - 10:19 AM Well it's no wonder he's a genius. In one of his stretches up the river he supposedly had Alvin Karpis as a guitar teacher. |
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